[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 265

On July 05 2012 08:03 TheYango wrote:

Sivir's entire skillset also serves to extend her effective range. That's realy not a good comparison.

On July 05 2012 08:05 Slusher wrote:
Positive discussion on itemization?

are you talking about gather around the fire while uncle Xizor makes an lol version of dota2 items, which SUPRISE don't fit the balance/meta of LOL.

On July 05 2012 08:03 Conversion wrote:
is it possible to ban this guy from this forum...? jesus christ

my friend and i were having a discussion on smartcast vs nonsmartcast and i tried to argue that some champs do better with and some do better without. ie alistar checking his w range is not easily done with smartcast or playing ryze without smartcast is just a huge bitch cause of the extra clicks. what do you guys prefer?

On July 05 2012 08:03 Conversion wrote:
is it possible to ban this guy from this forum...? jesus christ

my friend and i were having a discussion on smartcast vs nonsmartcast and i tried to argue that some champs do better with and some do better without. ie alistar checking his w range is not easily done with smartcast or playing ryze without smartcast is just a huge bitch cause of the extra clicks. what do you guys prefer?

On July 05 2012 08:03 Conversion wrote:
is it possible to ban this guy from this forum...? jesus christ

my friend and i were having a discussion on smartcast vs nonsmartcast and i tried to argue that some champs do better with and some do better without. ie alistar checking his w range is not easily done with smartcast or playing ryze without smartcast is just a huge bitch cause of the extra clicks. what do you guys prefer?

On July 05 2012 08:03 PrinceXizor wrote:
I did say that, and then i amended it to be more accurate. So since when it correcting yourself a problem, you are acting like i go back and forth.



Lol this everyone should just do ezreal mirror 1v1s

On July 05 2012 08:05 Slusher wrote:
Positive discussion on itemization?

are you talking about gather around the fire while uncle Xizor makes an lol version of dota2 items, which SUPRISE don't fit the balance/meta of LOL.

On July 05 2012 07:55 PrinceXizor wrote:

i didn't say no one can beat eve in lane i actually specifically mention that any character good at dealing mixed damage will beat her i'll amend that to people who clear waves super fast as well since i feel vlad would destroy her solely from that. in fact the only all situation was zulu saying EVERY top beats eve. i said she can bully down single damage type champions. so i don't even know. everyone is getting all puffed up and upset over shit i never said because they don't bother to read, why should the burden of proof be on me when if i post it it likely won't be read anyway. ???

and yeah 1v1ing a support player top is definitely gonna prove shit

... you serious?
Re roffles:
If people stopped being fucking assholes to me and actually started discussions instead of just total BS attacks on me then the thread wouldn't get so bad, would it?

We had a super positive discussion that occurred over the shitty ladder system and lack of organized inhouses.
We had a positive discussion over itemizing in lol.
The negative discussions came from "LOL NOPE" responses to me, instead of actually challenging the statement with a discussion. " LOL NOPE 1v1 ME NOOB" doesn't actually = a good debate. in fact, the majority of my posts have been pretty detailed explaining how you do it and what the end result should be. and the ONLY discussion against it was rooted in mistaken facts. so HOW is the discussion supposed to be positive when only 1 side is even trying. "Manning up" and 1v1ing doesn't make the thread any better, it just piles it into a "oh now me, now me" "pffft this guy can't beat a dedicated top laner in top laner when he plays support" that doesn't improve a damn thing does it? only through meaningful discussion will the thread get better, but i'm sorry that they don't want to have that. not my fault.

On July 05 2012 08:08 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:

I personally smartcast (nearly) everything because I'm just so used to it now. It feels much more responsive to just point and have you spell work, especially for skillshots or spells that need to be rapidly chained together. Playing DotA feels really hard sometimes because I press Q and forget to actually click on something lol.

That being said however, there are a few select champions I will turn off smartcast for (Ashe R, Rumble R, Anivia Wall, etc.) because sometimes you want to be patient and wait to line it up.

On July 05 2012 08:03 TheYango wrote:

Sivir's entire skillset also serves to extend her effective range. That's realy not a good comparison.

On July 05 2012 08:14 Lmui wrote:
Sivir's ultimate/passive are her only gap closers, she still has to stay within 500 range to use all her skills except for her Q. Q is not exactly something you can cast all day, it has a pretty prohibitive mana cost for that. Jayce's Q functions simlarly to kennen's shruiken, being a skillshot that scales off of bonus AD instead of AP and has a reasonably short cooldown. He doesn't have a gap closer but Sivir, beyond her ultimate, doesn't have a gap closer either until she hits her first auto-attack.

On July 05 2012 08:14 Lmui wrote:
Sivir's ultimate/passive are her only gap closers, she still has to stay within 500 range to use all her skills except for her Q. Q is not exactly something you can cast all day, it has a pretty prohibitive mana cost for that. Jayce's Q functions simlarly to kennen's shruiken, being a skillshot that scales off of bonus AD instead of AP and has a reasonably short cooldown. He doesn't have a gap closer but Sivir, beyond her ultimate, doesn't have a gap closer either until she hits her first auto-attack.

On July 05 2012 08:11 TheYango wrote:

lol now comparing those items he came up with to DotA 2's--that's just an insult to the great item design in DotA 2.

On July 05 2012 08:15 HazMat wrote:
I just bought EloBuff and looking at win % it's ridic how OP rumble is. Above 58% win rate at all Elos. 65% at 2k+. Granted not many people play him so it's skewed but that's just stupid.

Surprisingly mord is super high too. 65% winrate above 2k. 57% at all ratings. (these stats are all from last month)

On July 05 2012 08:19 PrinceXizor wrote:

Actually for niche champions that have diehard people maining them i don't feel it's too uncommon. if you don't have every other player picking up the character (like every support plays janna and raka) then it's only the people that are good with the character playing them. and if you are really good with a character you probably have a good winrate with him. especially at high elos.

On July 05 2012 08:12 GreenManalishi wrote:

During the server downtime last week I played some DotA and my god is it difficult to go back to before smartcast after living in a post-smartcast world.

I smartcast everything. Rumble ultimates, Anivia walls, Ashe arrows, everything. You get used to it, and Riot has been really good about implementing some form of smart cast controls for their more complicated skills. I remember the old smart cast on Rumble ult where it would just shoot out in a completely random direction.