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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 05 2012 02:52 GMT
#5361
On July 05 2012 11:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
So you guys think Jayce would be AD carry or solo top champ?

I'm leaning towards him being a solo top champ with solid poke, but I haven't played him on PBE so...

He looks like a top. The lack of permanent range and short range with no quick gap closer hurts kayle a lot.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
July 05 2012 02:53 GMT
#5362
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).
Creator of LoLTool.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 05 2012 02:56 GMT
#5363
On July 05 2012 11:53 Goragoth wrote:
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).

there's no conventional way to set smartcast on a per-champ basis. altho i think if you mess with the game files you might be able to, but i've never done it.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 05 2012 03:17 GMT
#5364
Just build Triforce and jungle like Phreak, tons of damage!
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nmbr
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
July 05 2012 03:18 GMT
#5365
Okay, just tried the smartcast w/ indicators, and it really threw me off. Activating abilities on-release felt no faster than normal casting. Plus having to make sure the mouse was over the target on release caused me to target minions more often than I'd like. Imma just stick with smartcasting most and normalcasting some.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 05 2012 03:23 GMT
#5366
On July 05 2012 11:53 Goragoth wrote:
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).

You could always have several ini files for each champion and replace the main ini file before each game. A crude method for sure, but it does work. Other than that, no, there's isn't an automated process.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
July 05 2012 03:49 GMT
#5367
On July 05 2012 12:23 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 11:53 Goragoth wrote:
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).

You could always have several ini files for each champion and replace the main ini file before each game. A crude method for sure, but it does work. Other than that, no, there's isn't an automated process.

That's a good idea. Might write myself a little tool that let's me switch .ini files quickly and easily. Thinking maybe a tray-app with a menu list of the champs and clicking on one sets a custom .ini for that champ. Should be simple enough to do.
Creator of LoLTool.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 03:54:58
July 05 2012 03:51 GMT
#5368
Hmm yeah it should be pretty simple, then you just need to give it a GUI and start selling it for 5 bucks :3 I'm sure people would have an use for it.


Also, would Elobuff be worth it? It costs quite a bit but on the other hand it seems really interesting.

That is, would it help me in improving myself in practice instead of just being an interesting "Oh I didn't know that, that's cool" kind of a tool
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 05 2012 04:07 GMT
#5369
On July 05 2012 12:51 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm yeah it should be pretty simple, then you just need to give it a GUI and start selling it for 5 bucks :3 I'm sure people would have an use for it.


Also, would Elobuff be worth it? It costs quite a bit but on the other hand it seems really interesting.

That is, would it help me in improving myself in practice instead of just being an interesting "Oh I didn't know that, that's cool" kind of a tool

I recommend it for sure. I'm not too interested by numbers and I'm loving it. I don't know if it'll help you improve but you can use it to pick up OP sleeper heroes ^_^
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 05 2012 04:08 GMT
#5370
On July 05 2012 12:51 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm yeah it should be pretty simple, then you just need to give it a GUI and start selling it for 5 bucks :3 I'm sure people would have an use for it.


Also, would Elobuff be worth it? It costs quite a bit but on the other hand it seems really interesting.

That is, would it help me in improving myself in practice instead of just being an interesting "Oh I didn't know that, that's cool" kind of a tool

I'd say if you are motivation driven then get it.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 04:13:20
July 05 2012 04:11 GMT
#5371
It'll definitely help you gain Elo. Really helped me notice how much better I play when I pick certain heroes and dodge certain players *cough vman cough*

edit: How does this Summoner Win Chance under Summoner Trends on Elobuff work? I'm at 68% chance to win games my last 4 games lol. Does it compare my stats on a hero with my and the enemy team's composition?
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FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
July 05 2012 04:19 GMT
#5372
On July 05 2012 12:49 Goragoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 12:23 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On July 05 2012 11:53 Goragoth wrote:
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).

You could always have several ini files for each champion and replace the main ini file before each game. A crude method for sure, but it does work. Other than that, no, there's isn't an automated process.

That's a good idea. Might write myself a little tool that let's me switch .ini files quickly and easily. Thinking maybe a tray-app with a menu list of the champs and clicking on one sets a custom .ini for that champ. Should be simple enough to do.


If you are willing to have a few really confusing games to learn this, you could use shift + qwer to smartcast. I find it kinda funny no other players seem to use shift but I couldn't live without it.
Veni, vidi, vici!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 05 2012 04:21 GMT
#5373
On July 05 2012 10:22 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 09:50 Seuss wrote:
On July 05 2012 09:32 Shikyo wrote:
On July 05 2012 09:28 Seuss wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote:
There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken.

But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for.

"Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?"
"Sure bro"
♥

I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there.

You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing


Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends.

You will actually. That's my point.


That's not how the new mechanics work. If there's a gap in a CC-chain then you will automatically Flash out, but if the CCs are seamless, landing the instant before the previous CC ends, there's no gap to exploit so you won't Flash until the CC-chain ends.

The wording on the change was certainly weird, but if it worked as you described Naut's infuriating hook -> root combo would be impossible against many champions when it's clearly not.

You flash out even if the CC is seamless. Again, that's my point.

(Unless they hotfixed that the last patch)


I am absolutely certain it doesn't work that way, because if it were so (and I repeat myself) Nautilus wouldn't be considered a strong ganker. All of his ridiculous CC combos fundamentally wouldn't work, not just against Flash but against any blink ability.

That said, I promise to verify how it actually works when I have the chance. Because I'm on vacation I'm not in a position to now, but I will tomorrow evening.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
July 05 2012 04:34 GMT
#5374
On July 05 2012 13:19 FR4CT4L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 12:49 Goragoth wrote:
On July 05 2012 12:23 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On July 05 2012 11:53 Goragoth wrote:
Is there any way to set smartcast on some spells on a per-champ basis? Or do you have to tweak them manually each game if you want to mix and match smartcast with non-smartcast? Because I think in that case I'll stick to not using smartcast at all (way too lazy to tweak hotkeys each game).

You could always have several ini files for each champion and replace the main ini file before each game. A crude method for sure, but it does work. Other than that, no, there's isn't an automated process.

That's a good idea. Might write myself a little tool that let's me switch .ini files quickly and easily. Thinking maybe a tray-app with a menu list of the champs and clicking on one sets a custom .ini for that champ. Should be simple enough to do.


If you are willing to have a few really confusing games to learn this, you could use shift + qwer to smartcast. I find it kinda funny no other players seem to use shift but I couldn't live without it.


I am an avid shift user just like you!
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 05 2012 04:38 GMT
#5375
On July 05 2012 13:21 Seuss wrote:
I am absolutely certain it doesn't work that way, because if it were so (and I repeat myself) Nautilus wouldn't be considered a strong ganker. All of his ridiculous CC combos fundamentally wouldn't work, not just against Flash but against any blink ability.

That said, I promise to verify how it actually works when I have the chance. Because I'm on vacation I'm not in a position to now, but I will tomorrow evening.

It's worked the way you described in the past, but either Draven or Darius patch broke it (spinesheath was complaining about it after testing it). It is possible that they hotfixed it, but Flash has been screwy with CC chains for a little while now.
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Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
July 05 2012 04:39 GMT
#5376
On July 05 2012 13:21 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 10:22 Shikyo wrote:
On July 05 2012 09:50 Seuss wrote:
On July 05 2012 09:32 Shikyo wrote:
On July 05 2012 09:28 Seuss wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:37 Shikyo wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:29 PrinceXizor wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:28 r.Evo wrote:
On July 05 2012 08:26 HazMat wrote:
There's a duo queue right now that go Fiddle in the Middle and AP amumu jungle and win everything. They've gained like 200 Elo in the last couple of days. Such good synergy and both heroes are broken.

But damn, he's such an awesome lane to gank for.

"Hey can you please cc the enemy for 3 seconds so I can walk into the middle of the lane before I press any buttons?"
"Sure bro"
♥

I feel like this is a big part of why he's a decent character to play as support. also that dark wind. preventing the enemy from flashing out for 4.2+ seconds is pretty powerful with a jungler and a carry there.

You can flash after the initial fear because of the new mechanics, even if dark wind silences them with perfect timing


Unless Fiddle silences you immediately before the fear wears off, in which case you won't flash away until after the silence ends.

You will actually. That's my point.


That's not how the new mechanics work. If there's a gap in a CC-chain then you will automatically Flash out, but if the CCs are seamless, landing the instant before the previous CC ends, there's no gap to exploit so you won't Flash until the CC-chain ends.

The wording on the change was certainly weird, but if it worked as you described Naut's infuriating hook -> root combo would be impossible against many champions when it's clearly not.

You flash out even if the CC is seamless. Again, that's my point.

(Unless they hotfixed that the last patch)


I am absolutely certain it doesn't work that way, because if it were so (and I repeat myself) Nautilus wouldn't be considered a strong ganker. All of his ridiculous CC combos fundamentally wouldn't work, not just against Flash but against any blink ability.

That said, I promise to verify how it actually works when I have the chance. Because I'm on vacation I'm not in a position to now, but I will tomorrow evening.

Although it may not have been intended, flashing out of chained control spells certainly happened when this delayed cast system was first introduced. As Shikyo says, it may have been patched since then.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#5377
Does anyone else find it hilarious by the way that there's like 1000 posts complaining about Jayce's bad lore on the LoL forums?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 05 2012 04:54 GMT
#5378
People complain about lore?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 05 2012 05:03 GMT
#5379
What's wrong with the lore?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 05 2012 05:04 GMT
#5380
On July 05 2012 14:03 HazMat wrote:
What's wrong with the lore?

his title is the worst title in the history of titles. for one.
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