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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 03 2012 04:51 GMT
#561
WTF is State of the League, and why is is such utter shit?
Freeeeeeedom
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 03 2012 04:55 GMT
#562
lmfao Dyrus raging so fucking hard. And at the end he was making bs decisions too...

derp
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 03 2012 04:57 GMT
#563
On May 03 2012 13:55 Jaso wrote:
lmfao Dyrus raging so fucking hard. And at the end he was making bs decisions too...


?
I'd watch but Twitch.tv is down trololol
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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 03 2012 05:02 GMT
#564
He was playing Karthus and team was dying (but not a ridiculously amount). In a skirmish he died, team got away, then when he rez'd chased a Blitz and Morg into tower and died, then raged and quit after starting a surrender vote, lmao.

and yeah I wish streamers would stop using Twitch.tv
derp
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
May 03 2012 05:02 GMT
#565
Are you talking about SOTL's aftershow? The aftershow isn't supposed to be anything just people hanging out and usually just female LoL players. The main part features pro LoL players and is supposed to be like State of the Game and is decent to good quality.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
May 03 2012 05:06 GMT
#566
i think the main problem with state of the league is that if a thing such as "anti-charisma" exists then the host travis definitely has it
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 05:11:00
May 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#567
On May 03 2012 12:48 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 07:43 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Quick question: Does a well-played caitlyn really shut down Graves hard? Isn't Graves picked blindly in tournaments, without cait being banned?


Keep in mind this is doublelift shitting on a ~1800-1900 AD carry but...



The only reason you can do that is if you throw your trap under graves after he quickdraws, e and q, he is forced to eat the E+Q and if he tries to dps instead of running, he's stuck in the trap and caitlyn gets to abuse her range and get 2-3 free autos.


Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 12:20 Darkfirex5 wrote:
I havent played league yet this patch, is Mundo still a top teir jungler? How has the nerf affected him?


Yes he's still a top tier jungler. You have to be a little bit more careful about using your ultimate to heal in the jungle instead of ganking but the main point was to bring him down a touch on his W. He can still do everything he used to without trouble.


Its actually not a 1900 AD carry, the Graves in that video is Aphromoo.

As someone who plays Mundo all the time, I hardly notice the nerfs at all except when you get caught really hard anyway... in which case just dont get caught really hard.

lol.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#568
Is there a good resource for setting mastery pages? eg. This one is good, this one is shit Ect... I'm sure I'm gimping myself with a lot of mine...
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 03 2012 05:16 GMT
#569
For what champions/roles?
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DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
May 03 2012 05:19 GMT
#570
On May 03 2012 13:51 cLutZ wrote:
WTF is State of the League, and why is is such utter shit?


Wrong people, Right idea from what I can tell.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 03 2012 05:24 GMT
#571
On May 03 2012 14:08 Terranasaur wrote:
Is there a good resource for setting mastery pages? eg. This one is good, this one is shit Ect... I'm sure I'm gimping myself with a lot of mine...


I'm pretty sure that like 70% of champions in this game can get 21 in offense and then put the other 9 where ever they want. Exceptions would be supports, some junglers maybe, and that's about it I guess. There might be some solo tops or something that would want 21 in defense but as is I'm pretty sure the offensive tree is crazy strong and iirc someone did the math and it's also the most gold efficient (although this is my memory of someone else's mathcraft, so that might not be true).

But yeah, unless you're playing a support or some other specialized character (like Ryze) you should be good just dumping 21 into offense.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 03 2012 05:24 GMT
#572
But sydtko is so brilliant and inspiring!!??!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 03 2012 05:28 GMT
#573
On May 03 2012 14:02 BlackMagister wrote:
Are you talking about SOTL's aftershow? The aftershow isn't supposed to be anything just people hanging out and usually just female LoL players. The main part features pro LoL players and is supposed to be like State of the Game and is decent to good quality.


Oh. Maybe I just caught that. I was browsing Solomid streams, and got tricked into wasting 5 mins hoping for some Day[9] quality shit.
Freeeeeeedom
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 03 2012 05:28 GMT
#574
On May 03 2012 14:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
For what champions/roles?


All of em. Just in general.

I have:
Two for top lane: 21/9 and 9/21.
Two for mid 21/0/9 and one for manaless (pretty much just Kennen)
I have a 21/9 with Smite for jungle
A 30/0/0 for Jax/Kayle
A 0/21/9 for Tanky AP guys
And a 0/9/21 for supports (I pretty much never use this one. I usually just use Tank)

The problem I have is that I'm not sure I'm using the right 9 or 21 when I go down a tree. I mean, it's obvious to take the bottom layer, but I'm not sure I'm choosing the right ones working down the tree.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 05:38:13
May 03 2012 05:36 GMT
#575
You're speccing into the right trees I see but unsure of what stats to actually put points into. It all really depends on what champion you want to play though. For example for me, I like to play a mobile tanky jungler, like Udyr, Maokai, or Mundo. So I do 0/21/9, speccing in all the movement speed masteries as well as less minion damage + incoming damage.

You can look at my mastery pages if you want to compare to your own
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 05:52:37
May 03 2012 05:41 GMT
#576
On May 03 2012 14:28 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 14:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
For what champions/roles?


All of em. Just in general.

I have:
Two for top lane: 21/9 and 9/21.
Two for mid 21/0/9 and one for manaless (pretty much just Kennen)
I have a 21/9 with Smite for jungle
A 30/0/0 for Jax/Kayle
A 0/21/9 for Tanky AP guys
And a 0/9/21 for supports (I pretty much never use this one. I usually just use Tank)

The problem I have is that I'm not sure I'm using the right 9 or 21 when I go down a tree. I mean, it's obvious to take the bottom layer, but I'm not sure I'm choosing the right ones working down the tree.


Typical caster masteries:
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You take 3 points in AD because it makes last hitting easier, gives you more damage when you auto enemies, and because 3 AD > 4 AP lol. I'd go 21 offense on practically every AP champion including tankier ones like Swain/Galio. Cho'Gath you might go defense, dunno, I don't play much chocho anymore. Nine points in defense should depend on lane match up, like against APs more in MR would be better than armor. Most people get 4 points in durability and 1 point in veteran's scars if you're only doing 9 in defense. I think some junglers get points in vigor though.

AD champs should be pretty obvious what to take in offense. Then you just decide if you want 9 defense or 9 utility. For carries like Graves or Tristana most people get 9 defense iirc. Top laners usually do 9 defense over 9 utility too.

Ryze is like the only champ I can think of that does weird masteries. I'm pretty sure most pro players do like 9/9/12 or other weird shenanigans.

edit:
Only AD carries that get 9 defense are Trist, Graves, Urgot, MF. Kennen goes 9 defense whether you're AP or AD. All other AD carries usually go 9 utility.

second edit:
Oh yeah, there's also the Ego Ignaxio Kennen page. But that has spell vamp quints too and he specs into utility for the spell vamp masteries. I don't think most Kennen's run that rune/mastery set up though.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 05:47:58
May 03 2012 05:45 GMT
#577
On May 03 2012 14:28 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 14:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
For what champions/roles?


All of em. Just in general.

I have:
Two for top lane: 21/9 and 9/21.
Two for mid 21/0/9 and one for manaless (pretty much just Kennen)
I have a 21/9 with Smite for jungle
A 30/0/0 for Jax/Kayle
A 0/21/9 for Tanky AP guys
And a 0/9/21 for supports (I pretty much never use this one. I usually just use Tank)

The problem I have is that I'm not sure I'm using the right 9 or 21 when I go down a tree. I mean, it's obvious to take the bottom layer, but I'm not sure I'm choosing the right ones working down the tree.


Most of it is preference. You'll rarely lose a game because you passed up on say +2% movement speed for +3 mana regen per 5 even if realistically the movespeed better early game and scales way better late game.

In general take Summoners Wrath/Resolve/Insight if you have those summoner spells. In defensive take whichever resist based on your lane opponent. I personally prefer HP to the return damage to minions. Lots of junglers really like the -minion damage and damage reflect, but I think getting HP/HP regen just better... again preference.

I often see people pass up on the flat AP in the offensive tree for the AD/ADto minions because it is just kinda... useless. You aren't going to win your lane because your spells did 1 more damage, especially when you can add 1 more daamge to your AA which helps you last hit and does the same damage to champs.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 03 2012 05:45 GMT
#578
Spec mode so awesome. Got my fans backing me up even when I'm not streaming <3333
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
May 03 2012 05:52 GMT
#579
what do people think of going 23 in offense on kog or corki getting the mpen and skipping the life steal?
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 06:07:41
May 03 2012 06:07 GMT
#580
I wouldnt get mpen on ranged carries simply because you're going to rely on autoattacks more than anything for damage than abilities plus having a extra 3% lifesteal ontop of your dorans, wriggles, bloodthirsters is just icing on a cupcake
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