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Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
May 03 2012 11:44 GMT
#601
I kind of like going boots> thirster> maw on riven and playing more Yi style, poking the sides and then diving in once all the crazy damage has been put out. her mobility and super low cooldown shield that scales off AD make it pretty viable, the magic shield is also pretty sex. I only do this vs magic heavy comps, obviously, where treads+maw gives you really good MR midgame.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 11:51:00
May 03 2012 11:50 GMT
#602
Assuming you stay around middling health in most fights from just generic aoe damage and whatever focus comes your way the passive makes it cost effective. If you don't plan on being low health it's not so great since it's only like 30 ad 6 mr and a shield you won't get much benefit out of (not being too hurt and all) for 1900 gold. I'd say it's really really cost effective against aoe magic damage comps, though, as you'll probably be proccing the shield quickly and getting that 150 health, minimum of 28 ad from the passive, on top of the 30 ad and 6 mr for the 1900 extra you spent on it to upgrade it from Hexdrinker.

So, yeah, it's a great item vs double ap comps like it was designed to be, herp derp.
Remember Violet.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
May 03 2012 11:55 GMT
#603
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 12:01:50
May 03 2012 12:00 GMT
#604
On May 03 2012 20:31 Goshawk. wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/t4vko/ranked_hacks_no_cd_on_summoners/

More info there.

Better quality video:
Show nested quote +


LOL this looks just like a diablo 2 sorceress with a good gear!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 03 2012 13:12 GMT
#605
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 03 2012 13:15 GMT
#606
CV: maphax yo~
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
May 03 2012 13:20 GMT
#607
On May 03 2012 22:12 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.

Ignite flash, pentakill level 1 no problem
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 03 2012 13:34 GMT
#608
Man, I got reported last game on my alt, Dr Terribaddie, cause they thought it was me hacking. Similar names ftl.
Hey! How you doin'?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 13:36:31
May 03 2012 13:35 GMT
#609
On May 03 2012 22:20 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:12 HazMat wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.

Ignite flash, pentakill level 1 no problem



Surge/Flash Nauti

Giant Kassadin-like flashes all over your face with stuns all game.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 03 2012 13:36 GMT
#610
On May 03 2012 22:20 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:12 HazMat wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.

Ignite flash, pentakill level 1 no problem

Ignite doesn't stack.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 03 2012 13:37 GMT
#611
So is there a general consensus right now on how to build ryze after the changes?
Same as before or do you stack rods of ages now or something ridic like that?
Cackle™
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 03 2012 13:52 GMT
#612
On May 03 2012 22:36 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:20 Schwopzi wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:12 HazMat wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.

Ignite flash, pentakill level 1 no problem

Ignite doesn't stack.

Yea ignite seems like a bad idea. The 3 best summs probably are:
- flash - be everywhere in a split second,
- smite - lvl up like crazy
- heal - never die.

I'm not surprised that the guy in the vid picked smite - flash/heal would have "won" vs flash/smite but he isn't playing vs other hackers so grabbing quick lvls is more important (on the other hand i'm surprised how does Riot let all these bugs happen, veigar restun bug, yorick ult bug and now this)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 03 2012 14:10 GMT
#613
If you stack 30 levels of summoner's wrath, does having ignite on cooldown give you 150 AD ? Ashe with a mix of AD/crit damage runes flash ignites you then crit aa for 500 damage at level 1, first blood.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 03 2012 14:15 GMT
#614
Duuuude.

I forgot how good fiddles fear is... That has got to be the best CC in the game hands down. FlashUlt in, do big AoE damages, and in the meantime trolololol lock their AD carry out of the teamfight.

Fiddles like best teamfighter in game.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 03 2012 14:41 GMT
#615
On May 03 2012 22:52 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2012 22:36 HazMat wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:20 Schwopzi wrote:
On May 03 2012 22:12 HazMat wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:55 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:29 Lmui wrote:
On May 03 2012 20:23 Caphe wrote:
What the hell did I just watch? This is a hack or a glitch? That is disgusting.


It's a glitch where you can put 30 points into a single tier 1 mastery. What that person is abusing is no cd flash. The much worse one is +30 AD at level 1.

NOTHING is worse than Flash on no CD.


Actually you're right. It looks like it can be done with any summoner spell. The video right below your post of smite flash is especially retarded.

Heal and push mid in 5 minutes.

Ignite flash, pentakill level 1 no problem

Ignite doesn't stack.

Yea ignite seems like a bad idea. The 3 best summs probably are:
- flash - be everywhere in a split second,
- smite - lvl up like crazy
- heal - never die.

I'm not surprised that the guy in the vid picked smite - flash/heal would have "won" vs flash/smite but he isn't playing vs other hackers so grabbing quick lvls is more important (on the other hand i'm surprised how does Riot let all these bugs happen, veigar restun bug, yorick ult bug and now this)


Programming. If the projects get this big, its hard to test everything you ever put in and all the thousands of combinations of things that could possibly happen. Its just not possible to test everything, they never claim everything is bugfree and for as long as its free to play, you cant really complain about it.
KCCO!
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
May 03 2012 14:43 GMT
#616
Bugs happen in many games, free to play or not.

Riot fixes them quickly I see no reason to be upset by it. If the problem went unanswered for long periods of time, sure. Otherwise, I still recall many games I've played over the years where hacks/cheats/bugs went unfixed by companies who have moved on to other projects.
xiaoW
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
May 03 2012 14:57 GMT
#617
That bug is just so that you can put more points into a mastery than you usually can.

He has 7 points on Mastermind (7*15%=105% cdr on summoner spells), hence the no cooldown smite and flash.
I have seen people getting 30 AD, or 60 armor from masteries zzz
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 15:06:35
May 03 2012 15:05 GMT
#618
I am just going to chime in with my $0.02. I don't know exactly how the hack works, but I do have an idea. Because this is speculative, don't take it as truth. This is more to perhaps give some of you an idea why this might have happened.

In retrospect this bug isn't all that surprising. Originally, masteries were saved locally. This meant that even if you hacked false masteries, when the server queried your client for the mastery information it also tested it for validation. So if your masteries didn't check out, it would just ignore them. So, for example, if you locally edited the mastery functionality to give yourself 60 masteries, it would only take the first 30 valid points and ignore the rest, or just assign you 0 masteries instead.

When masteries moved to the servers, you now save the information directly to a database. This information is then extracted by the game server when you play. When this information is extracted, no validation occurs to check if the mastery choice is legal or not and the game applies what it sees. Instead, validation occurs client-side and is then sent to the database to be stored. What I'm guessing occurs is the hack spoofs the validation and tells the database to store illegal masteries since the database doesn't know how to validate, only the client and game server does.

This could probably have been prevented by adding an extra layer of validation somewhere. Hindsight is of course 20/20 and I'm guessing they tried to skimp in order to make the masteries feel more responsive to players who experience higher latency. On the bright side, it will be relatively easy to track down the people who were hacking because you just have to look at all the mastery submissions from the past few days and then run a search to see which ones were illegal. Then you can just ban the accounts found guilty.

Anyway, if you guys ever come across any hacks or bugs, please send me a PM (or to MoonBear) and I will escalate this issue immediately to the relevant people. Please don't post about it publicly, as knowledge of the hack only lets more people abuse it while Riot works on a fix, which can take time.

Also, Ranked Queue is disabled while Riot tests and deploys a hotfix. This is getting fixed today, rest assured.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
May 03 2012 15:06 GMT
#619
what happens if a person on each team had the 0 cd heal? who wins?
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 03 2012 15:07 GMT
#620
LOLLLL that shit so funny
:)
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