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DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
April 28 2012 22:26 GMT
#2601
you're bad for not warding and for not following panth when he goes off to gank and using your abilities on him while he's channeling so he ends up ganking with <50% hp
"I am an iconic role model for everyone aspiring to be better at League of Legends." - Roffles
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 22:29:20
April 28 2012 22:28 GMT
#2602
On April 29 2012 07:23 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So....I'm very confused. Didn't want to put this in QQ cause I actually want responses....but holy fucking shit people in this game confuse me.

I pick vlad top and I'm against panth. We gank him early two times and all is well, get my revolver and whatnot, but then pantheon finds out that karth is pushing his lane really hard, and he ultbombs karth every time his ult is up for a free kill. After he does this 3 or so times he's got some nasty items and I'm having trouble just not getting killed, so I buy a giants belt thinking the extra HP will be real nice, and then later I can turn it into something nice. Also to note, the entire time my team (everybody but our AD carry) was calling me terrible, useless, bad, worthless, feeder (only 2 deaths, how the fuck am I feeding O.o) calling my build terrible and telling me to never play top lane again ever. I honestly just don't understand. I mean I made mistakes...but nobody ever got stupidly pissed off at our mid for getting panth bombed so many times, or anything else.

Something went wrong in bot lane? OMG VLAD SO USELESS FUCKING BAD

I call MIA on panth less than 1 second after he enters river, he ults somewhere and gets 2 kills? WTFF VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS GAME!!?!?!

The best one IMO, I dive on panth and karth ults at the same time. Panth dodges my ult by a lucky timed leap but I still think he'll die to the karth ult, so I pool AWAY instead of DEEPER. Panth lives with less than 10 hp. WHOLE TEAM ERUPTS INTO OMFG VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FREE FUCKING KILL OMG PANTH WHY YOU LET HIM LIVE.

Yes, it was all caps, pretty much the whole time.

Seriously, the fuck is going on in this game that turns people into this.....or am I just really that bad somehow and it just doesn't seem like it (ya know, having higher cs and less deaths than all the people bitching at me)....?


People will see what they want to see in order to shift blame. This includes you, it's something no one can help. Not saying it was actually all your fault, but try to look at the situation objectively and from their point of view to see if there was anything you could have done better. Don't take what they say to heart, but do take it as a signal to analyze what happened and improve.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 28 2012 22:31 GMT
#2603
On April 29 2012 07:23 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So....I'm very confused. Didn't want to put this in QQ cause I actually want responses....but holy fucking shit people in this game confuse me.

I pick vlad top and I'm against panth. We gank him early two times and all is well, get my revolver and whatnot, but then pantheon finds out that karth is pushing his lane really hard, and he ultbombs karth every time his ult is up for a free kill. After he does this 3 or so times he's got some nasty items and I'm having trouble just not getting killed, so I buy a giants belt thinking the extra HP will be real nice, and then later I can turn it into something nice. Also to note, the entire time my team (everybody but our AD carry) was calling me terrible, useless, bad, worthless, feeder (only 2 deaths, how the fuck am I feeding O.o) calling my build terrible and telling me to never play top lane again ever. I honestly just don't understand. I mean I made mistakes...but nobody ever got stupidly pissed off at our mid for getting panth bombed so many times, or anything else.

Something went wrong in bot lane? OMG VLAD SO USELESS FUCKING BAD

I call MIA on panth less than 1 second after he enters river, he ults somewhere and gets 2 kills? WTFF VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS GAME!!?!?!

The best one IMO, I dive on panth and karth ults at the same time. Panth dodges my ult by a lucky timed leap but I still think he'll die to the karth ult, so I pool AWAY instead of DEEPER. Panth lives with less than 10 hp. WHOLE TEAM ERUPTS INTO OMFG VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FREE FUCKING KILL OMG PANTH WHY YOU LET HIM LIVE.

Yes, it was all caps, pretty much the whole time.

Seriously, the fuck is going on in this game that turns people into this.....or am I just really that bad somehow and it just doesn't seem like it (ya know, having higher cs and less deaths than all the people bitching at me)....?

hard to say without seein the game firsthand, but honestly, it sounds like you did fine.

a lot of people will automatically assume that if a person is raping their team, it's the guy laning against them's fault when that may not necessarily be the case.

This rage happens all the time and it's not just this game. Any game where teamwork is central to the game will have this. In all honesty, I've played both DotA and HoN as well and the communities in those games are just as bad if not worse than in LoL. Just ignore it and move on.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 28 2012 22:32 GMT
#2604
people in lol have external loci of control issues.
liftlift > tsm
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 28 2012 22:35 GMT
#2605
On April 29 2012 07:23 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So....I'm very confused. Didn't want to put this in QQ cause I actually want responses....but holy fucking shit people in this game confuse me.

I pick vlad top and I'm against panth. We gank him early two times and all is well, get my revolver and whatnot, but then pantheon finds out that karth is pushing his lane really hard, and he ultbombs karth every time his ult is up for a free kill. After he does this 3 or so times he's got some nasty items and I'm having trouble just not getting killed, so I buy a giants belt thinking the extra HP will be real nice, and then later I can turn it into something nice. Also to note, the entire time my team (everybody but our AD carry) was calling me terrible, useless, bad, worthless, feeder (only 2 deaths, how the fuck am I feeding O.o) calling my build terrible and telling me to never play top lane again ever. I honestly just don't understand. I mean I made mistakes...but nobody ever got stupidly pissed off at our mid for getting panth bombed so many times, or anything else.

Something went wrong in bot lane? OMG VLAD SO USELESS FUCKING BAD

I call MIA on panth less than 1 second after he enters river, he ults somewhere and gets 2 kills? WTFF VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS GAME!!?!?!

The best one IMO, I dive on panth and karth ults at the same time. Panth dodges my ult by a lucky timed leap but I still think he'll die to the karth ult, so I pool AWAY instead of DEEPER. Panth lives with less than 10 hp. WHOLE TEAM ERUPTS INTO OMFG VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FREE FUCKING KILL OMG PANTH WHY YOU LET HIM LIVE.

Yes, it was all caps, pretty much the whole time.

Seriously, the fuck is going on in this game that turns people into this.....or am I just really that bad somehow and it just doesn't seem like it (ya know, having higher cs and less deaths than all the people bitching at me)....?

Rule #1 of soloqueue, just ignore 95% of what people say because 95% of what people say is random trash when they have no clue about the game, not much you can do when pant leaves sight, is he in his jungle? is he recalling? is he ulting towards our jungle? is he ulting mid? Only thing you can do is keep him pushed to turret with good ward coverage.
But, most important thing, just ignore people in solo queue, not /ignore but just dont bother with their rage. Seriously.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 28 2012 22:45 GMT
#2606
Fed Panth is also like one of the least scary things in LoL imo. Maybe I just play against bad Panths but it's like a 50/50 chance of winning or losing when a Panth gets fed. Sometimes his team is smart and they push that advantage and take big objectives but other times his team just dicks around. Or even better if I'm playing someone like Galio or Morgana or some other quick wave clearer and my team isn't completely stupid you can just force it to late game where fed Panth is pretty fucking worthless.

He's a lot like LB or Lux imo. If they get fed it's bad and can turn the game quickly. But at a certain point they become almost a liability to their team regardless of how well they did earlier.

On April 29 2012 07:31 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 07:23 N3rV[Green] wrote:
So....I'm very confused. Didn't want to put this in QQ cause I actually want responses....but holy fucking shit people in this game confuse me.

I pick vlad top and I'm against panth. We gank him early two times and all is well, get my revolver and whatnot, but then pantheon finds out that karth is pushing his lane really hard, and he ultbombs karth every time his ult is up for a free kill. After he does this 3 or so times he's got some nasty items and I'm having trouble just not getting killed, so I buy a giants belt thinking the extra HP will be real nice, and then later I can turn it into something nice. Also to note, the entire time my team (everybody but our AD carry) was calling me terrible, useless, bad, worthless, feeder (only 2 deaths, how the fuck am I feeding O.o) calling my build terrible and telling me to never play top lane again ever. I honestly just don't understand. I mean I made mistakes...but nobody ever got stupidly pissed off at our mid for getting panth bombed so many times, or anything else.

Something went wrong in bot lane? OMG VLAD SO USELESS FUCKING BAD

I call MIA on panth less than 1 second after he enters river, he ults somewhere and gets 2 kills? WTFF VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS GAME!!?!?!

The best one IMO, I dive on panth and karth ults at the same time. Panth dodges my ult by a lucky timed leap but I still think he'll die to the karth ult, so I pool AWAY instead of DEEPER. Panth lives with less than 10 hp. WHOLE TEAM ERUPTS INTO OMFG VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FREE FUCKING KILL OMG PANTH WHY YOU LET HIM LIVE.

Yes, it was all caps, pretty much the whole time.

Seriously, the fuck is going on in this game that turns people into this.....or am I just really that bad somehow and it just doesn't seem like it (ya know, having higher cs and less deaths than all the people bitching at me)....?


a lot of people will automatically assume that if a person is raping their team, it's the guy laning against them's fault when that may not necessarily be the case.


Dude, those games where you get destroyed in lane but still manage to get fed because either you just played badly in lane phase or because the other team has a few people who do stupid shit are great. Manage to carry and have the entire enemy team blame the one person who's better than you.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 22:49:23
April 28 2012 22:47 GMT
#2607
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 28 2012 22:56 GMT
#2608
On April 29 2012 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.


i think it is better to move your chat off screen instead of using ignore so you can still see their pings.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
April 28 2012 23:00 GMT
#2609
On April 29 2012 07:56 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.


i think it is better to move your chat off screen instead of using ignore so you can still see their pings.


If your still communicating with 2 members of your team though it's not really a good idea. Thanks for the tip though Ill do that when I get the teams where everyones raging.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 23:04:54
April 28 2012 23:03 GMT
#2610
On April 29 2012 07:56 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.


i think it is better to move your chat off screen instead of using ignore so you can still see their pings.


LOL I never knew you could do this. this is pretty revolutionary. A must do every game. Cuz pings are all you need. Chat is useless.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
April 28 2012 23:04 GMT
#2611
Play the game for enjoyment. /ignore is hugely helpful in that regard. I've learned to use it quick and often, and it doesn't matter if it's me or someone else getting insulted. Pretty sure it hasn't cost me to miss out on anything but headaches and sadness.

I've given up on that whole "report" thing anyways -- almost every game there is someone who thinks it's expected of them to spew out useless and banal insults at the first opportunity. No way Riot is going to ban as many players as would be necessary to fix the problem. However, for as many obnoxious ppl as there are -- even if it's 2 out of 5 people every team you get -- they're still the minority I think. Just an obnoxiously large minority. But not worth your time, either way.
Big water
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 28 2012 23:07 GMT
#2612
On April 28 2012 17:18 gtrsrs wrote:
e3: just to solidify my point that i'm not just overreacting here and he's a total doucher... this is what he reported someone for... in a normal game lmao:
[image loading]
last time i checked, i ONLY queue normal games when (a) my g/f is playing on my acct, (b) i'm drunk as a mofo, or (c) i WANT to troll with a pick like ahri bot.


no need to justify yourself to me bro, though I appreciate the thought
:3
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 28 2012 23:10 GMT
#2613
http://www.twitch.tv/curse_lol

rog tournament, show some support <3
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 28 2012 23:13 GMT
#2614
Thank you all

<3
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 28 2012 23:13 GMT
#2615
On April 29 2012 07:04 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 06:53 Requizen wrote:
So what do you do when the enemy has a stupid strong AoE comp and just sticks together past the laning phase?

Last night, I had a game where we won lanes all day (were up 4 towers killed to 0 lost), up 5+ kills all game, but every teamfight after that point: Ziggs Ult, GP Ult, Lux Laser, Ashe Arrow initiate, and Karth Ult. I was playing Naut, but even with GA/Wits/Mercs/Abyssal/FH that fucking hurts, and our squishies just got annihilated. And considering those are all global range or close to it, split pushing was more or less a no-no.

What the hell do you do in that situation? We couldn't fight into them, and they just forced fights by diving and taking towers.

get a pair of negatrons and they do practically no damage b/c all of their AoE is magic damage

Yeah, I was fine, but once my team disappeared, Naut (me) and Morde (the only other one building any defenses) can't 2v5 when half your health is gone.
It's your boy Guzma!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 28 2012 23:43 GMT
#2616
I found that against ap aoe the best thing to do is pick galio. You just stack MR, and then when they try blowing their ults you're always in front messing with them with your bajillion MR and ult. Had a amumu/morg/vlad game I thought would be easy, until a MR stacking galio just soaked up all the damage and would ult and destroy us.

Also if people on your team are blaming you, you need to already know when something is your fault, and when something isn't. Ignoring them is usually what I do, if they don't have the game sense to know who's fault something actually is, I wouldn't trust their play making pings either.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
April 28 2012 23:46 GMT
#2617
On April 29 2012 08:03 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 07:56 jadoth wrote:
On April 29 2012 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.


i think it is better to move your chat off screen instead of using ignore so you can still see their pings.


LOL I never knew you could do this. this is pretty revolutionary. A must do every game. Cuz pings are all you need. Chat is useless.

Except when you're timing every objective on the map.

I don't need pings to know where someone is when I don't have to waste time reading stupid comments. I /ignore liberally and use chat to record the respawn time of everything bigger than a small camp.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 28 2012 23:47 GMT
#2618
On April 29 2012 08:03 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 07:56 jadoth wrote:
On April 29 2012 07:47 BlueBird. wrote:
I use /ignore liberally. I can usually convey what I want to say with pings. Also if I do mess up and I know I did, and people dont stop nagging me, using /ignore lets me calm down and get back into the game. The games where people argue or blame the whole time = games i 100% lose. If I talk back to people I end up coming off like a dick just like them.

Also people who are arguing/blaming/raging usually don't listen to your communication anyways so its kind of pointless.


i think it is better to move your chat off screen instead of using ignore so you can still see their pings.


LOL I never knew you could do this. this is pretty revolutionary. A must do every game. Cuz pings are all you need. Chat is useless.


I like your pre-edit dose of truth. Really shouldn't have edited it out man, people get their feelings way too hurt in video games.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 29 2012 00:28 GMT
#2619
I can't believe I missed a gtr rant; I am so sad.

As for /ignoring people, does it really make that big a difference to people? I've never used it. Not only does it completely remove any possibility that through silence and actually ignoring them they may stop raging or w/e it is they are doing in chat, but I find it hilarious to watch the people that do react, or occasionally throw in a line to spurn on more entertainment myself.

Is it really that hard to just, not read the chat? It's not like their text isn't easily distinguishable from those that may be typing something useful.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
April 29 2012 00:39 GMT
#2620
The shit pops up everytime someone says a line and with enough raging going on you lose track of anything meaningful that was put in chat (e.g. objective timers). You can ignore it, but why waste the time/effort when you can press one button and have it done automatically.
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