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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 01 2012 04:30 GMT
#2921
For who? Kayle or Riven?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
May 01 2012 04:32 GMT
#2922
For kayle
boomer hands
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
May 01 2012 04:33 GMT
#2923
On May 01 2012 13:29 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 12:06 Bladeorade wrote:
So is Kayle top lane really strong? Or are people just not used to playing vs her?

I haven't faced on person that is particularly frightening yet.

They "dash" or whatever in and try to trade with you, you just run, if they turn QE, if they keep pursuing QEW and kite your brains out. Only has mana problems super early and against some champs can start zoning at level 3.



She is really strong, Rincent wrote a guide for her.

I only laned her a few times, and his guide was pretty much a very good source on the matchups, except that I (oddly enough) never felt as strong late-game as he made it sound despite having strong items (iedge, pd).

But Kayle vs Riven is hilariously one-sided IME.


what do people think about his masteries setup? 19/11/0 getting the flat damage reductions for creep aggro.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
May 01 2012 05:04 GMT
#2924
On May 01 2012 13:33 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:29 bmn wrote:
On May 01 2012 12:06 Bladeorade wrote:
So is Kayle top lane really strong? Or are people just not used to playing vs her?

I haven't faced on person that is particularly frightening yet.

They "dash" or whatever in and try to trade with you, you just run, if they turn QE, if they keep pursuing QEW and kite your brains out. Only has mana problems super early and against some champs can start zoning at level 3.



She is really strong, Rincent wrote a guide for her.

I only laned her a few times, and his guide was pretty much a very good source on the matchups, except that I (oddly enough) never felt as strong late-game as he made it sound despite having strong items (iedge, pd).

But Kayle vs Riven is hilariously one-sided IME.


what do people think about his masteries setup? 19/11/0 getting the flat damage reductions for creep aggro.

I've started running that on jungle nocturne, couple other chars, after I read his kayle guide. Works really well.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 05:16:49
May 01 2012 05:10 GMT
#2925
zionspartan is the unluckiest human alive. cannot believe I just saw that

EDIT: my god again? This poor guy haha
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
May 01 2012 05:16 GMT
#2926
On May 01 2012 13:29 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 12:06 Bladeorade wrote:
So is Kayle top lane really strong? Or are people just not used to playing vs her?

I haven't faced on person that is particularly frightening yet.

They "dash" or whatever in and try to trade with you, you just run, if they turn QE, if they keep pursuing QEW and kite your brains out. Only has mana problems super early and against some champs can start zoning at level 3.



She is really strong, Rincent wrote a guide for her.

I only laned her a few times, and his guide was pretty much a very good source on the matchups, except that I (oddly enough) never felt as strong late-game as he made it sound despite having strong items (iedge, pd).

But Kayle vs Riven is hilariously one-sided IME.

Yeah Kayle vs Riven is ridiculous. I always feel bad for the Riven player.

I have been using his guide of 2 dblades Zerkers into IE PD after which i go BT into GA. I feel like her late game is ridiculous...that AoE scaling off %AD magic damage. Her ult is enough time to kill anyone, and Q enhances your damage while being a strong nuke...I find her pretty redonk.

On May 01 2012 13:33 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 13:29 bmn wrote:
On May 01 2012 12:06 Bladeorade wrote:
So is Kayle top lane really strong? Or are people just not used to playing vs her?

I haven't faced on person that is particularly frightening yet.

They "dash" or whatever in and try to trade with you, you just run, if they turn QE, if they keep pursuing QEW and kite your brains out. Only has mana problems super early and against some champs can start zoning at level 3.



She is really strong, Rincent wrote a guide for her.

I only laned her a few times, and his guide was pretty much a very good source on the matchups, except that I (oddly enough) never felt as strong late-game as he made it sound despite having strong items (iedge, pd).

But Kayle vs Riven is hilariously one-sided IME.


what do people think about his masteries setup? 19/11/0 getting the flat damage reductions for creep aggro.

I dont like his Mastery setup. I use 21/8/1 going straight down the AD tree, armor creep reduction and HP5 in def and then flash mastery in utility. I find this works pretty much the same as his but more damage and you pretty much always push your lane unless zoning anyway so I do not find minion damage to be a huge deal.

I also am not sure what he used for runes but I use flat AD quints and Marks, flat armor yellows and MR level blues.

NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 01 2012 05:23 GMT
#2927
Spec mode has arrived.

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