EPT[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 130
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MooMooMugi
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Craton
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NSANE.hydra
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Ryuu314
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On April 29 2012 05:52 NSANE.hydra wrote: double wota + mejais is standard, what rock have you been living under? dunno if sarcastic, but mejais is never standard. | ||
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NpG)Explosive
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On April 29 2012 05:53 Ryuu314 wrote: dunno if sarcastic, but mejais is never standard. Still more standard than that double wota. | ||
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MooMooMugi
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wei2coolman
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wei2coolman
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TwoToneTerran
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On April 29 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone notice GA is becoming more popular pick for AD carry rather than qss? QSS is still a must against things like Skarner where the tactical CC *has* to be broken or else you lose and 100-0 burst. If you team only has you as a threat, and the other team dives you, you're just going to die again when you respawn. GA useful when your team has multiple threats so when you die, the rest of your team kills them and when you revive you kill them as well. Also, if you have no tank line then there's no peel for you when you respawn at low hp either so GA bad there as well. On a side note, I can see how GA>QSS works on Koggles since he's pretty tanky for an AD Carry and can't really reposition himself. So if you QSS, you still can't reposition like Vayne sans Flash. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
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On April 29 2012 06:07 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone notice GA is becoming more popular pick for AD carry rather than qss? On bad teams. The good ones still buy qss. | ||
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HazMat
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On April 29 2012 06:16 SnK-Arcbound wrote: On bad teams. The good ones still buy qss. lolwut I'm sure someone can look at recent tourney builds but I remember imaqtpie and chaox always getting GA as their last item. not sure about doublelift. edit: hm I see one game where Chaox went qss on Kog. I'm sure he still gets GA most games though. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
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On April 29 2012 03:49 MooMooMugi wrote: Ward up and shove to the second tower! They either have to respond (but you warded, so you just walk away) or let you push to inhib. If they respond it takes pressure off the rest of the map.There isn't much you can do if you take a early tower other than roam into the other lanes and help out, force a dragon, or just counterjungle. The lane will push back eventually top and someone will have to go back to farm | ||
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Slusher
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On April 29 2012 06:18 HazMat wrote: lolwut I'm sure someone can look at recent tourney builds but I remember imaqtpie and chaox always getting GA as their last item. not sure about doublelift. edit: hm I see one game where Chaox went qss on Kog. I'm sure he still gets GA most games though. ever since m5 won kiev I've rarely seen Chaox not go GA. Dlift still obsessed with QSS/Cleanse. | ||
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wei2coolman
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On April 29 2012 06:31 wei2coolman wrote: Yeah, Doublelift is one of the few AD carries that seem to favor QSS over GA. Maybe it's cause Double's full name is Doublecleanselift To be fair, on Vayne you can never get caught or you explode, and his micro is good enough to take full advantage of her mobility. GA just makes you explode, then revive and explode from even lower hp. He does skip the QSS on ADs that can't reposition though. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On April 29 2012 06:32 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: To be fair, on Vayne you can never get caught or you explode, and his micro is good enough to take full advantage of her mobility. GA just makes you explode, then revive and explode from even lower hp. He does skip the QSS on ADs that can't reposition though. Doubles advice for Vayne is to QSS/Cleanse the second anything hits you. ANY CC, you cleanse it. He's right too, if you get pinned down for a split second on vayne its over. | ||
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Requizen
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Last night, I had a game where we won lanes all day (were up 4 towers killed to 0 lost), up 5+ kills all game, but every teamfight after that point: Ziggs Ult, GP Ult, Lux Laser, Ashe Arrow initiate, and Karth Ult. I was playing Naut, but even with GA/Wits/Mercs/Abyssal/FH that fucking hurts, and our squishies just got annihilated. And considering those are all global range or close to it, split pushing was more or less a no-no. What the hell do you do in that situation? We couldn't fight into them, and they just forced fights by diving and taking towers. | ||
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Frolossus
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On April 29 2012 06:53 Requizen wrote: So what do you do when the enemy has a stupid strong AoE comp and just sticks together past the laning phase? Last night, I had a game where we won lanes all day (were up 4 towers killed to 0 lost), up 5+ kills all game, but every teamfight after that point: Ziggs Ult, GP Ult, Lux Laser, Ashe Arrow initiate, and Karth Ult. I was playing Naut, but even with GA/Wits/Mercs/Abyssal/FH that fucking hurts, and our squishies just got annihilated. And considering those are all global range or close to it, split pushing was more or less a no-no. What the hell do you do in that situation? We couldn't fight into them, and they just forced fights by diving and taking towers. get a pair of negatrons and they do practically no damage b/c all of their AoE is magic damage | ||
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N3rV[Green]
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I pick vlad top and I'm against panth. We gank him early two times and all is well, get my revolver and whatnot, but then pantheon finds out that karth is pushing his lane really hard, and he ultbombs karth every time his ult is up for a free kill. After he does this 3 or so times he's got some nasty items and I'm having trouble just not getting killed, so I buy a giants belt thinking the extra HP will be real nice, and then later I can turn it into something nice. Also to note, the entire time my team (everybody but our AD carry) was calling me terrible, useless, bad, worthless, feeder (only 2 deaths, how the fuck am I feeding O.o) calling my build terrible and telling me to never play top lane again ever. I honestly just don't understand. I mean I made mistakes...but nobody ever got stupidly pissed off at our mid for getting panth bombed so many times, or anything else. Something went wrong in bot lane? OMG VLAD SO USELESS FUCKING BAD I call MIA on panth less than 1 second after he enters river, he ults somewhere and gets 2 kills? WTFF VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO BAD AT THIS GAME!!?!?! The best one IMO, I dive on panth and karth ults at the same time. Panth dodges my ult by a lucky timed leap but I still think he'll die to the karth ult, so I pool AWAY instead of DEEPER. Panth lives with less than 10 hp. WHOLE TEAM ERUPTS INTO OMFG VLAD WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID FREE FUCKING KILL OMG PANTH WHY YOU LET HIM LIVE. Yes, it was all caps, pretty much the whole time. Seriously, the fuck is going on in this game that turns people into this.....or am I just really that bad somehow and it just doesn't seem like it (ya know, having higher cs and less deaths than all the people bitching at me)....? | ||
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