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Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
April 29 2012 07:30 GMT
#2641
Honestly triforce isn't bad for any AD, it's just that IE first is just better when ur not ez or corki.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 29 2012 07:58 GMT
#2642
Nyjacky and crumbzz get to 1900 elo in one day from scratch on their new smurfs ~_~.
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
April 29 2012 08:02 GMT
#2643
On April 29 2012 16:58 beefhamburger wrote:
Nyjacky and crumbzz get to 1900 elo in one day from scratch on their new smurfs ~_~.


They still only have 1 loss? I watched for a while and there were a few close games but yea
mostly stomping whoever goes mid lol.
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 29 2012 09:16 GMT
#2644
On April 29 2012 16:58 beefhamburger wrote:
Nyjacky and crumbzz get to 1900 elo in one day from scratch on their new smurfs ~_~.

Yeah it's like Wickd and Malunoo they duoed on EU and now are 2450 with 61/9 pretty crazy stuff.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 29 2012 09:24 GMT
#2645
On April 29 2012 11:08 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 10:47 turdburgler wrote:
the best way to get viewers is to be a girl and / or rage on stream. dont lie


False. Get your girlfriend to play/skype and commentate or chat, like SV does.

Yeah, that's not really why people watch swag. He could have a bunch of naked dudes on his screen and people would still watch him.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
April 29 2012 09:59 GMT
#2646
Why in the goddamn hell is it so strangely difficult to cs as Rumble? Like any other champion and I'll be at 200+ at 25min np, but the second I play Rumble I'll be at like 125 or something. I don't even know where it all goes, the creeps just magically disappear and leave me sad and poor. Q just screws over your lasthitting until you have a fair amount of items I think...please tell me it isn't just me failing hard.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#2647
On April 29 2012 18:59 NSANE.hydra wrote:
Why in the goddamn hell is it so strangely difficult to cs as Rumble? Like any other champion and I'll be at 200+ at 25min np, but the second I play Rumble I'll be at like 125 or something. I don't even know where it all goes, the creeps just magically disappear and leave me sad and poor. Q just screws over your lasthitting until you have a fair amount of items I think...please tell me it isn't just me failing hard.

rumble's hard to cs with in general. Q can screw over your last hitting and his animation for last hitting isn't all that great in the first place. but he's a pretty strong laner in the right hands in the right matchups tho so that tends to make up for it.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 12:02:05
April 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#2648
http://www.twitch.tv/nvidiageforce

Stream for the NGF semifinals. LoL will start on the same stream after DotA finishes--not sure when it will be exactly because they started late because of delays, but I'm guessing it'll be something like 2 hours from now. Matches will be WE vs LGD and EHome vs TPA.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
April 29 2012 10:17 GMT
#2649
On April 29 2012 17:02 Mios wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 16:58 beefhamburger wrote:
Nyjacky and crumbzz get to 1900 elo in one day from scratch on their new smurfs ~_~.


They still only have 1 loss? I watched for a while and there were a few close games but yea
mostly stomping whoever goes mid lol.

They were stomping with mid + jungle duo, and then Jacky tries Galio. He went something like 1/6/2 or smth. lol
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
April 29 2012 10:19 GMT
#2650
Is there a LoL website like arenajunkies or something? I'm looking to find a 5v5 ranked team to play with.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
April 29 2012 11:59 GMT
#2651
On April 29 2012 19:19 Masq wrote:
Is there a LoL website like arenajunkies or something? I'm looking to find a 5v5 ranked team to play with.
no one plays 5v5 ranked
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17291 Posts
April 29 2012 12:19 GMT
#2652
Yeah, nobody other than the like 40 thousand teams that do.

Just because there aren't many pro caliber teams playing doesn't mean there aren't a lot of teams playing in the average range. I've even come across 1800 teams in my limited time of doing ranked.
twitch.tv/cratonz
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 29 2012 12:54 GMT
#2653
So with the nerf to wits, can I start building Ionic spark now? I want the lightning!
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
April 29 2012 13:02 GMT
#2654
On April 29 2012 21:54 sob3k wrote:
So with the nerf to wits, can I start building Ionic spark now? I want the lightning!


This caused me to giggle. Although I'm sure there's some cases where IS might be useful (Shen or Olaf if you'd have otherwise built wits maybe...)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 13:50:54
April 29 2012 13:14 GMT
#2655
I've yet to find a non-trolling use for Ionic spark. It's just really anemic for what it does. Wit's does more damage in fewer attacks to a single target, all other things equal. Even the slightly higher aspd on Spark doesn't make up for it.
twitch.tv/cratonz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 29 2012 13:22 GMT
#2656
On April 29 2012 22:14 Craton wrote:
I've yet to find a non-trolling use for Ionic spark. It's just really anemic for what it does. Wit's does more damage in less attacks to a single target, all other things equal. Even the slightly higher aspd on Spark doesn't make up for it.

#1 jarman item where you trap all 5 in your arena.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
April 29 2012 13:30 GMT
#2657
On April 28 2012 18:18 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 18:10 Promises wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 28 2012 17:18 gtrsrs wrote:
yo real talk
i'm watching destiny's stream right now
along with 2200 other viewers

i'm seeing him in a vayne/ahri bot lane versus garen/caitlin, so i can tell right off the bat that he's at like 1k, 1.2k elo at best. my girlfriend tells me that his face-cam angle is awful and had too much blank space above his ugly head (her words). and i see him typing in chat "you're a fucking faggot i have 2k viewers land your skillshots" and "jesus you're so terrible kill yourself you faggot fucking fuck fuck" etc etc... is there a reason people watch this stream instead of mine? i'm much better looking than him (her words), i give analytical reasoning to my actions, i don't blame my teammates for my mistakes, i man up for my actions, i recognize both my good plays and my bad plays, and what's more, i'm not fucking awful at this game. i talk to the camera and i don't have my keybinds on 1110000% volume so all you can hear is "CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLACK CLACK CLACK", i try to explain why a matchup is favorable, honestly, i don't know how he isn't permabanned with that kind of attitude let alone streaming to 2k people. besides the fact that my video card isn't quite up to par so my stream is a bit choppy (working on fixing this!) can someone explain why this nooblord has approximately 1995 viewers than me? i honestly am not trying to bash NeoDestiny (although from his stream, he clearly deserves the bashing) but rather trying to find out what i can do to net another 2k viewers.

e: as i typed this, i heard him scream out all sorts of profanities and then bang his keyboard some more. i've heard some people hypothesize that that's how hotshotgg got popular - his rage is entertaining. should i fly off the handle at every teammate that misses 1 skillshot? should i tell people to kill themselves? my last ban was 1 week for being too sarcastic at my teammates so i don't think i can get away with telling my teammates that they're "fucking faggots" in all-chat. but short of that, what can i do to be a "good" streamer that draws 2k viewers like neodestiny?

e2: okay finally was able to type the alt-code to find "é" to search his name... so after 200 games he's 1300 elo, but somehow he's on a ranked 5s team with dyrus and phantomlord? is that why he's popular? grabbing viewers when they're done streaming?

e3: just to solidify my point that i'm not just overreacting here and he's a total doucher... this is what he reported someone for... in a normal game lmao:
[image loading]
last time i checked, i ONLY queue normal games when (a) my g/f is playing on my acct, (b) i'm drunk as a mofo, or (c) i WANT to troll with a pick like ahri bot.


Is your stream featured or do you have a link to it? Sounds like the kind of stream i'm generally looking for to watch


it's not featured. i'm not sure how to get it featured. i respect that smashgizmo, shakedrizzle, and locicero are all better players than i am so i understand WHY their streams are featured. destiny's stream is labeled "[LoL]" despite the fact that he's ... not a top LoL player, so i guess i don't know HOW you get featured. i've spoken with an admin and they told me i need a couple more weeks of consistent streaming for several hours, and then i could harass them about being featured. i've been streaming for the past week every day, at least a couple games. prior to that, i've streamed several tournament-level games and scrims. you can find my stream thread here:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252732

i'm working on keeping the OP updated when i'm live, but the latest post should always indicate when i'm live if the OP doesn't. additionally, my stream has started to undergo some hiccups with a bit of choppiness during high action. i think this is due to the introduction of my webcam - i'm working on a fix atm. if it's too much trouble, i'll drop the webcam til i have a new video card or whatever hardware i need to stream. my stream is similar to shakedrizzle's - i pride myself on knowing when i made mistake, acknowledging when my teammates are carrying me, and noting what i can do better the next game. i try to be interactive and entertaining. i feel like my stream is the type that will only get better with MORE viewers - more people to interact with, more questions to answer, more opinions i can give from a semi-high-level of play. but i'm not really sure where i can get that foothold of initial base viewers. i'd really like if you checked it out :3 i should be streaming against tomorrow morning, in about 6 hours, for a couple hours before i go to work

also, @shake, not sure if you're mocking me or asking me a question, not sure how to respond. care to clarify what you're asking/telling me via PM or in-client? ty e2: really serious, i don't know. not trying to sound like a smartass. a bit tipsy still. ty


Ok slapped your stream thread in my favorites, so should be checking if you're streaming whenever I'm on ^^
Keep up the good work!
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
April 29 2012 13:31 GMT
#2658
On April 29 2012 22:14 Craton wrote:
I've yet to find a non-trolling use for Ionic spark. It's just really anemic for what it does. Wit's does more damage in less attacks to a single target, all other things equal. Even the slightly higher aspd on Spark doesn't make up for it.


The choice between 250HP & 50 MR (More than a negatron!) is easily made.

I mean, the opposing team would have to be ridiculously AD focused to have Ionic spark be better than Wit's End.

50 MR gives you 50% higher EHP. So you'd have to have less than 500 HP for the tankiness of IS to outweigh Wit's End. It's pretty damn bad.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 13:50:40
April 29 2012 13:50 GMT
#2659
On April 29 2012 22:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 22:14 Craton wrote:
I've yet to find a non-trolling use for Ionic spark. It's just really anemic for what it does. Wit's does more damage in less attacks to a single target, all other things equal. Even the slightly higher aspd on Spark doesn't make up for it.


The choice between 250HP & 50 MR (More than a negatron!) is easily made.

I mean, the opposing team would have to be ridiculously AD focused to have Ionic spark be better than Wit's End.

50 MR gives you 50% higher EHP. So you'd have to have less than 500 HP for the tankiness of IS to outweigh Wit's End. It's pretty damn bad.

Erm, that's only true of you have zero starting MR (which nobody has). MR's % EHP gain depends on how much MR you already have.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 29 2012 13:53 GMT
#2660
On April 29 2012 22:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 22:14 Craton wrote:
I've yet to find a non-trolling use for Ionic spark. It's just really anemic for what it does. Wit's does more damage in less attacks to a single target, all other things equal. Even the slightly higher aspd on Spark doesn't make up for it.


The choice between 250HP & 50 MR (More than a negatron!) is easily made.

I mean, the opposing team would have to be ridiculously AD focused to have Ionic spark be better than Wit's End.

50 MR gives you 50% higher EHP. So you'd have to have less than 500 HP for the tankiness of IS to outweigh Wit's End. It's pretty damn bad.

The only spark I've seen in ranked was a WW who also had Wits, Mogs, and 3 PDs. I feel like he was trolling a bit.
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