EPT[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 82
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:00 Alaric wrote: Ziggs is. So. Duuuuuumb. And unfun to play against. Never seen so much utility+range+low cds+damage all meshed in one champ, and I'm not even getting started about how easy he is to play. And since they won't want to nerf his damage because, you know, that has to be the feel when you play a guy launching bombs, they'd have to touch his utility and it's not the easiest thing to balance. I have. His name is Xerath. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 20 2012 10:49 overt wrote: You do know that jiji is streaming right now. He never rages, has been playing LoL just as long as Phreak, and is one of the best players in North America if not the world. For your convenience: http://www.own3d.tv/live/13576/CLG_bigfatlp I think anyone and everyone understands all the things that Phreak does if they've been playing the game for more than like six months. It's not like LoL is super complicated anyways and Phreak probably isn't going to teach you anything that you don't already (hopefully) know. This is true, he hasn't really taught me anything... I dunno I just think his stream is amusing because he is always very excited and upbeat. Unlike many other streamers, he explains his reasoning behind everything (even though many times it is wrong... but you know). He talks about everything and takes responsibility for everything... you look at other streamers like almost every pro and they just blame their teammates for everything. Instead of "perhaps i overextended on that play" it is "Wow, dis XXXX so useless" or "real." | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On February 20 2012 10:51 HazMat wrote: He'll teach you how to properly pronounce LoL stuff :D Needly and playful slash trickster are maybe half a level above Mayokai, if that. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:00 Alaric wrote: Ziggs is. So. Duuuuuumb. And unfun to play against. Never seen so much utility+range+low cds+damage all meshed in one champ, and I'm not even getting started about how easy he is to play. And since they won't want to nerf his damage because, you know, that has to be the feel when you play a guy launching bombs, they'd have to touch his utility and it's not the easiest thing to balance. any super strong gap closer, like akali, should wreck ziggs if you bait out his E. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:18 Niton wrote: Needly and playful slash trickster are maybe half a level above Mayokai, if that. CLG Vent always relevant. Re Phreak: He's in the top tier within Riot because he has good ingrained mechanics from playing lots of LoL Beta and WC3 and stuff. But overall, he's not a good player because he has to spend so much time on his actual job instead of playing LoL. I'd wager that Classik and Milk are in a similar position. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:39 NeoIllusions wrote: saint advocating Mallet on WW. :O A part of me can see that. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:39 NeoIllusions wrote: saint advocating Mallet on WW. :O I thought that was weird, considering like a month ago, saint vicious never build frozmallet, on ww. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:41 Zdrastochye wrote: Wow EG just raped WE, like, not even close after the initial laning phase. Surprising considering they won IEM Guanzhou vs a team very much so a step below CLG and TSM. 1. Guanzhou is pretty long time ago when looking at the pro scene. 2. The Chinese also have ping issues to deal with. They're opting for practice with poor ping against better opponents over stomps on CN server with good ping. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:42 wei2coolman wrote: I thought that was weird, considering like a month ago, saint vicious never build frozmallet, on ww. What's amusing is that our own forum shot down that idea a few times a couple months ago. We had people saying "WW has E, why Mallet?!", etc. | ||
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:41 Zdrastochye wrote: Wow EG just raped WE, like, not even close after the initial laning phase. Surprising considering they won IEM Guanzhou vs a team very much so a step below CLG and TSM. I still think EG has arguably better teamfighting than CLG and TSM. Now if only if they didn't lose every single lane in most of their scrims... Seriously, can someone explain to me why their laning phase is so bad in scrims? Like, when I watch them play solo queue, they win their lane a lot versus the exact same players on the enemy team. But when I watch EG scrim, almost every single game they do stupid shit in lane that they don't do in solo queue. (Except for Salce. Poor Salce.) | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:44 NeoIllusions wrote: What's amusing is that our own forum shot down that idea a few times a couple months ago. We had people saying "WW has E, why Mallet?!", etc. tbh I rather build Frozen Heart over Frozen Mallet. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:46 Nehsb wrote: I still think EG has arguably better teamfighting than CLG and TSM. Now if only if they didn't lose every single lane in most of their scrims... Seriously, can someone explain to me why their laning phase is so bad in scrims? Like, when I watch them play solo queue, they win their lane a lot versus the exact same players on the enemy team. But when I watch EG scrim, almost every single game they do stupid shit in lane that they don't do in solo queue. Because CLG es #1 huehuehuehuehue. But yeah, most games CLG is almost always ahead after laning phase. I rarely see them do really poorly in laning phase. EDIT: It could do with something about how SV is the best jungler ever. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:44 NeoIllusions wrote: What's amusing is that our own forum shot down that idea a few times a couple months ago. We had people saying "WW has E, why Mallet?!", etc. I still dislike it. It has nothing to do with E--it has a lot to do with buying almost 2k gold in HP on a champ whose survivability scales very poorly with HP, and extremely well with resists. I'd much rather turn Phage into Triforce on Warwick. Maybe not immediately, but buying a Giant's Belt on Warwick feels pretty shitty. Literally the only part of Mallet that Warwick really likes is the slow, and even then, the increase in effectiveness of Mallet over Phage is pretty minimal given that 1) your ultimate virtually guarantees a Phage proc because you hit them 5 times, and 2) you have high enough attack speed with W on to make re-applying Phage slow before it falls off very likely. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:46 Nehsb wrote: I still think EG has arguably better teamfighting than CLG and TSM. Now if only if they didn't lose every single lane in most of their scrims... Seriously, can someone explain to me why their laning phase is so bad in scrims? Like, when I watch them play solo queue, they win their lane a lot versus the exact same players on the enemy team. But when I watch EG scrim, almost every single game they do stupid shit in lane that they don't do in solo queue. Because you have Salce mid, Nhat bottom, and 3 people who are both not cemented on their role but also who don't reliably practice that role. Dyrus, Westrice and Dan have all been solo, AD and jungler at some point in the last 6 months - Dyrus is most comfortable top, but he also plays the other two roles competently so he gets stuck wherever. Westrice CAN be a very good top, but the champion he became famous for isn't that strong anymore and he has a lot of trouble with making poor decisions. Dan.. is Dan. He's a super-chill, really friendly guy who can pull off some awesome plays at times, but he also comes up with the most random bullshit imaginable (Regrowth -> WotA Amumu against known counterjungling? Red+6 Nocturne ever?). If he sticks to what he's comfortable playing, he does really well and EG tends to play much better - but he doesn't and EG really suffers for it sometimes. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 20 2012 11:50 TheYango wrote: I still dislike it. It has nothing to do with E--it has a lot to do with buying almost 2k gold in HP on a champ whose survivability scales very poorly with HP, and extremely well with resists. I'd much rather turn Phage into Triforce on Warwick. Maybe not immediately, but buying a Giant's Belt on Warwick feels pretty shitty. ^this, like a millions times. I much prefer wit's end + triforce. But I definitely see what saintthinks is good about frozmallet. I like how saint is like "omg i'm loving this frozmallet build". Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he just outplays everyone. | ||
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