• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:14
CEST 07:14
KST 14:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion1BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion1Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch 60% Keyboards Viable for Starcraft?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5341 users

[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 53

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 235 Next
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:19:17
January 03 2012 18:16 GMT
#1041
Anybody got some tips for Nocturne? He's free this week and has always interested me but his Thread hasn't been updated in months... Does he suck now or is he still good?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 03 2012 18:27 GMT
#1042
He is still very good, if you get ahead early go balls deep deeps and carry the heck out of your team. Dan said yesterday on stream he has no idea why there's less nocs around nowadays, he is still very stronk.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 03 2012 18:30 GMT
#1043
On January 04 2012 02:47 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On January 04 2012 02:39 barbsq wrote:
On January 04 2012 02:37 Haemonculus wrote:
Xerath is sooooo reliant on his ult imo. When it's up, he's terrifying. He can healthbar you with a full combo. Getting ganked while his ult is ready is like guaranteed death.

When his ult is down, he's really underwhelming.


most AP mid champions tend to be like that


I'm gonna have to disagree. Most AP mids are still formidable without their ult. I agree with Rhav that unless Xerath's ult is up, I'm really not afraid of him.


then i would have to point out annie, kennen, veigar, morgana (to a slightly lesser extent), brand, fiddlestix, fizz, galio, katarina, malzahar, AP tf, and zilean suffer from similar problems.

That list really overplays itself. I'm more afraid of pretty much all of those heros besides for galio when their ults are down when compared to xerath. When his ult is up, however, he's #1 on my terror list.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 03 2012 18:33 GMT
#1044
Xerath isnt scary when his ult's down, but that's not really that big a problem considering how well he clears waves at a super long range+low cds with blue. When his ult's down, if he has blue, he can basically just sit at his tower and clear waves all day while being very safe. With blue buff his ult cd is only like 40~ seconds at the lower levels so you're not really even giving up all that much.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 03 2012 18:39 GMT
#1045
On January 04 2012 03:16 Terranasaur wrote:
Anybody got some tips for Nocturne? He's free this week and has always interested me but his Thread hasn't been updated in months... Does he suck now or is he still good?

Noct is crazy strong right now. wriggle's -> HoG (+ Avarice optional) opening into either ghostblade -> generic tanky stuff or warmog's rush -> atma's. He survived the jungle better than most because Q + his passive fucking murders small camps.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 03 2012 18:43 GMT
#1046
PSA: please stop jungling lee sin unless you are really really good at him. tired of losing games because i have lee sin jungle. thank you.
Brees on in
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 03 2012 18:52 GMT
#1047
On January 04 2012 03:06 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 03:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Where did this chunking thing come from exactly? I've heard quite a few people say it now and it doesn't make any sense.

Show nested quote +
chunk
1    [chuhngk] Show IPA
noun
1.a thick mass or lump of anything: a chunk of bread; a chunk of firewood.
2.Informal . a thick-set and strong person.
3.a strong and stoutly built horse or other animal.
4.a substantial amount of something: Rent is a real chunk out of my pay.

You take a big chunk of their hp, makes perfect sense.


Yeah, you'll also notice that chunk is a noun. People who use it as a verb like X chunked Y just seems silly to me.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 03 2012 18:54 GMT
#1048
On January 04 2012 03:52 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 03:06 JackDino wrote:
On January 04 2012 03:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Where did this chunking thing come from exactly? I've heard quite a few people say it now and it doesn't make any sense.

chunk
1    [chuhngk] Show IPA
noun
1.a thick mass or lump of anything: a chunk of bread; a chunk of firewood.
2.Informal . a thick-set and strong person.
3.a strong and stoutly built horse or other animal.
4.a substantial amount of something: Rent is a real chunk out of my pay.

You take a big chunk of their hp, makes perfect sense.


Yeah, you'll also notice that chunk is a noun. People who use it as a verb like X chunked Y just seems silly to me.

While usually that would be true, this is the internet where people make words up and do as mundo pleases.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 03 2012 18:54 GMT
#1049
On January 04 2012 03:43 Brees wrote:
PSA: please stop jungling lee sin unless you are really really good at him. tired of losing games because i have lee sin jungle. thank you.

every time there's a lee sin in my games, he's on the other team and 4/1/7 by 10:00.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
January 03 2012 18:56 GMT
#1050
On January 03 2012 20:34 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 20:28 deskscaress wrote:
so was viktor actually released yet? i have played a dozen games since his release date, i see people talking about him, and yet i haven't seen him picked or banned in a single game nor on stream

also i heard there was a champ called "volibear" in this game that was supposed to be OP upon release, yet i have never seen him in a game either

also has anyone heard of a champion called fizz?


What's your point? Why don't you just play them and laugh at people who underestimate them? It's been like this with almost every champ released - nobody plays them until someone known has balls big enough to spend 30+ games to find how to make a champion super strong


errr

my point was

when mf/xin/kog/whoever were released back in the day, they would always be first pick, first ban, whatever. you'd have to wait like 4 weeks to get to play them in a ranked game unless you got super lucky

with the last 5 or 8 champs or so, i haven't even seen them picked let alone banned in any games. except ahri. basically i think riot just needs to slow down on the champ releases because no one cares about getting another generic bruiser with a slightly different theme or another gimmicky caster imo.
would you ever miss it?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 03 2012 19:01 GMT
#1051
On January 04 2012 03:54 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 03:43 Brees wrote:
PSA: please stop jungling lee sin unless you are really really good at him. tired of losing games because i have lee sin jungle. thank you.

every time there's a lee sin in my games, he's on the other team and 4/1/7 by 10:00.


everytime i get one they are lvl 3 10 minutes into the game
Brees on in
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 03 2012 19:01 GMT
#1052
MF and Xin were also extremely overpowered on release. If you check MF she got nerfed like 5 or 6 times after release...I still don't own Xin so I can't really comment on him, but I used to main MF back then.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
January 03 2012 19:03 GMT
#1053
On January 04 2012 04:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
MF and Xin were also extremely overpowered on release. If you check MF she got nerfed like 5 or 6 times after release...I still don't own Xin so I can't really comment on him, but I used to main MF back then.


fizz and xerath were OP on release and haven't been nerfed yet so i don't think that's it tbh
would you ever miss it?
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#1054
People don't have 6.3k ip to drop on every hero. MF and Xin were released during a timeframe when people could reliably afford to buy the next hero. We haven't had anything reasonably priced in a looooong time, so unless you're rolling in RP, you probably don't have the IP to be an early adopter.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#1055
I think probably the worst OP champ I have ever seen was release lebonkers. Imagine current leblanc, only she did more damage and never ran out of mana. It didnt matter what the rest of the people in the game picked because she would be 3-0 by 5 minutes, then just end the game by 25 (back when a surrender vote was 25 minutes).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 03 2012 19:15 GMT
#1056
On January 04 2012 04:03 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
MF and Xin were also extremely overpowered on release. If you check MF she got nerfed like 5 or 6 times after release...I still don't own Xin so I can't really comment on him, but I used to main MF back then.


fizz and xerath were OP on release and haven't been nerfed yet so i don't think that's it tbh


Even if you consider them overpowered, they look like Eve when you compare them to release MF.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 03 2012 19:17 GMT
#1057
Meh release MF wasnt that bad IMO. Her q was strong because you used to solo lane ads, and she was really good at that. Her ult was a touch strong, but what they did to it can only be described as murder.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 19:18:29
January 03 2012 19:18 GMT
#1058
Remember when you used to be able to ult as MF and actually do damage? Now she's like an ezreal with bigger boobs. Only uses ult to clear creep waves.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 03 2012 19:23 GMT
#1059
release pantheon was stronkest, people just hadn't figured out LoL yet when he came out. man, if I could go back and know then what I know now, I would've stomped people in the nuts so hard with release Pantheon.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#1060
On January 04 2012 04:03 deskscaress wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
MF and Xin were also extremely overpowered on release. If you check MF she got nerfed like 5 or 6 times after release...I still don't own Xin so I can't really comment on him, but I used to main MF back then.


fizz and xerath were OP on release and haven't been nerfed yet so i don't think that's it tbh

Xerath is a lot harder to play than press button and right click.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 235 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
LiquipediaDiscussion
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
23:00
FSL Team League S11 POG vs ASH
Liquipedia
OSC
22:00
Vespene Cup #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft669
PiGStarcraft409
Nina 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4420
Soma 86
ZergMaN 41
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm272
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 800
Counter-Strike
summit1g8687
Other Games
C9.Mang0324
Maynarde123
Mew2King47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick30802
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 152
• practicex 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt479
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
3h 46m
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
4h 46m
Afreeca Starleague
4h 46m
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
SC Evo League
6h 46m
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IPSL
10h 46m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
10h 46m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 10h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.