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[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 55

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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 03 2012 20:37 GMT
#1081
Yeah, I know why new champs are 6.3k. Doesn't change the fact that it means that new content is adopted selectively because IP is now a rate limiting factor in adoption, which means people make a cost-benefit-risk analysis in determining if they're going to take a chance with viktor and potentially have a shitty two weeks, or pick ahri and know they're going to have fun tossing bowling balls at people.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 03 2012 20:38 GMT
#1082
On January 04 2012 05:32 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
Apparently in Jiji lexicon "going down to help hotshot put his bed together" means "staring at hotshot move things while I eat."


He's helping the retard defeat the sofa now.

The sofa appears to be winning for now despite the 2v1.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:41:31
January 03 2012 20:40 GMT
#1083
Xerath isn't played much because after laning he gets pretty reliant on his team since once he blows his ult the vast majority of his dps is gone. Fizz isn't played much because even tho he's super strong, he has some pretty iffy matchups and it's not easy to lane with him. Volibear should be put in lane not jungle imo and he's pretty good laner, but he's not played much cause he jsut got nerfed and isn't blatantly overpowered/strong. Victor seems to be on the weak side; his skills are okay but imo the biggest thing holding back his popularity is the fact that landing his E is pretty darn hard for newbies since the hitbox is so small.

People play Ahri because while it may not be easy to do well with her, her ulti makes it so it's very hard to do bad with her so you get an somewhat inflated KDR and we all know KDR is everything /sarcasm. She also has big boobs.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 03 2012 20:44 GMT
#1084
On January 04 2012 05:27 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:08 L wrote:
People don't have 6.3k ip to drop on every hero. MF and Xin were released during a timeframe when people could reliably afford to buy the next hero. We haven't had anything reasonably priced in a looooong time, so unless you're rolling in RP, you probably don't have the IP to be an early adopter.


Riot's policy is that every new champion now will be 6.3k because they reduced (supposedly still reducing) the prices of old champs. Overall it's probably a change that screwed us over, but I'm just saying don't expect a new champ for anything less.


I don't mind this expect they haven't lowered the IP of any champs for months now. The last set of reductions were mid-Oct (Karthus and Twitch). There are several champions that should no longer be 6300 - Ezreal, Kennen, and Malzahar come to mind.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 03 2012 20:46 GMT
#1085
On January 04 2012 04:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:08 L wrote:
People don't have 6.3k ip to drop on every hero. MF and Xin were released during a timeframe when people could reliably afford to buy the next hero. We haven't had anything reasonably priced in a looooong time, so unless you're rolling in RP, you probably don't have the IP to be an early adopter.


This is wrong because everyone played Graves and Vayne on release. Xerath is stupidly OP yet I only see a handful of them. I don't know why.

To be fair to the earlier argument, Fizz got nerfed because people actually did play him on release. I don't know how strong Volibear is, I hadn't heard anyone call him super OP. Xerath is stupid though and I dunno if more people aren't playing him because he's boring to play as (my opinion) or if people feel he's too reliant on his ult.

edit:
Xerath is not hard to play as. He has more range than release Orianna and very easy to land skill shots.


i am on the side of him simply being boring for the majority of the lol population to play. This certainly isn't a first, it happened to Galio some time after his release, I remember there was a long period in which it was generally acknowledged that galio was a very strong champion, but hardly anyone played him because of how boring he was to play.

in part, i kinda blame it on xerath's spell animations. It's kinda tricky to deal with lightning in video games (from what i've seen), i really only ever see it as being really meaty or really feathery with no real in-between. IMO xerath falls into the feathery group, there's just no weight behind anything he does really (note: from a purely subjective standpoint), and they just end up looking like poofs of white fuzz. Granted, this could be due to me playing on lowest settings, but i also use the same settings for malzahar (the only ap i play with any form of regularity/skill), and i have to say that his spells are significantly more gratifying from a visceral standpoint. Xerath on the other hand, looks more like ryze autoattacks than anything else.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 03 2012 20:48 GMT
#1086
Hotshot and Jijji assembling a couch = 5k viewers. Not sure if I should laugh or cry..
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:51:25
January 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#1087
I think xerath looks really stupid too, in addition to having bad animations. He looks like a stick figure or something.

I don't know, that's not right, but he just doesn't have any visual appeal at all to me.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 03 2012 20:51 GMT
#1088
On January 04 2012 05:46 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:27 overt wrote:
On January 04 2012 04:08 L wrote:
People don't have 6.3k ip to drop on every hero. MF and Xin were released during a timeframe when people could reliably afford to buy the next hero. We haven't had anything reasonably priced in a looooong time, so unless you're rolling in RP, you probably don't have the IP to be an early adopter.


This is wrong because everyone played Graves and Vayne on release. Xerath is stupidly OP yet I only see a handful of them. I don't know why.

To be fair to the earlier argument, Fizz got nerfed because people actually did play him on release. I don't know how strong Volibear is, I hadn't heard anyone call him super OP. Xerath is stupid though and I dunno if more people aren't playing him because he's boring to play as (my opinion) or if people feel he's too reliant on his ult.

edit:
Xerath is not hard to play as. He has more range than release Orianna and very easy to land skill shots.


i am on the side of him simply being boring for the majority of the lol population to play. This certainly isn't a first, it happened to Galio some time after his release, I remember there was a long period in which it was generally acknowledged that galio was a very strong champion, but hardly anyone played him because of how boring he was to play.

in part, i kinda blame it on xerath's spell animations. It's kinda tricky to deal with lightning in video games (from what i've seen), i really only ever see it as being really meaty or really feathery with no real in-between. IMO xerath falls into the feathery group, there's just no weight behind anything he does really (note: from a purely subjective standpoint), and they just end up looking like poofs of white fuzz. Granted, this could be due to me playing on lowest settings, but i also use the same settings for malzahar (the only ap i play with any form of regularity/skill), and i have to say that his spells are significantly more gratifying from a visceral standpoint. Xerath on the other hand, looks more like ryze autoattacks than anything else.


I feel a lot like you about Xerath's Q, it seems to lack, in animation, in simply raw kicking power and it makes him kinda bland to play. Take say Brand, he makes the fucking ground shoot up in a blazing inferno, when you hit something with it it's like..yea burn fucker burn!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 03 2012 20:51 GMT
#1089
On January 04 2012 05:48 Senx wrote:
Hotshot and Jijji assembling a couch = 5k viewers. Not sure if I should laugh or cry..

And Jiji restreaming Hotshot in a tiny window with background music = 2k viewers

Makes me want my own stream, and my housework Elo is much higher
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:57:30
January 03 2012 20:55 GMT
#1090
On January 04 2012 05:48 Senx wrote:
Hotshot and Jijji assembling a couch = 5k viewers. Not sure if I should laugh or cry..


Have you tried CLG Snoopeh's stream? in my opinion one of the best streams since loci doesnt stream anymore

edit: i misunderstood you, my bad. doesn't matter, Snoopeh still better than (then?) Hotshot or Jiji stream
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 03 2012 20:58 GMT
#1091
Is it just me or do some champions just attract the worst players? Not bad as in skill, but like the biggest assholes in the game. 90% of the Twitches I play with are completely terrible people who blame everything on other players and take credit for every kill and gank, no matter what. I know that's just how this community is sometimes, but it always seems to gravitate toward Twitch, Trynd, and Xin.
It's your boy Guzma!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#1092
On January 04 2012 05:58 Requizen wrote:
Is it just me or do some champions just attract the worst players? Not bad as in skill, but like the biggest assholes in the game. 90% of the Twitches I play with are completely terrible people who blame everything on other players and take credit for every kill and gank, no matter what. I know that's just how this community is sometimes, but it always seems to gravitate toward Twitch, Trynd, and Xin.


No, I don't think it's like that, people just like to pull patterns out of thin air.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 03 2012 21:02 GMT
#1093
Not sure if you guys noticed this or care too much, but the PBE is currently in open sign ups. You can check the deets here: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1490366

Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#1094
On January 04 2012 05:48 Senx wrote:
Hotshot and Jijji assembling a couch = 5k viewers. Not sure if I should laugh or cry..


Dudeee, I just turned it on cause you told me. I'm laughing my ass off. Watching hotshot put together a couch is like watching a monkey peel an orange.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 03 2012 21:04 GMT
#1095
On January 04 2012 06:00 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:58 Requizen wrote:
Is it just me or do some champions just attract the worst players? Not bad as in skill, but like the biggest assholes in the game. 90% of the Twitches I play with are completely terrible people who blame everything on other players and take credit for every kill and gank, no matter what. I know that's just how this community is sometimes, but it always seems to gravitate toward Twitch, Trynd, and Xin.


No, I don't think it's like that, people just like to pull patterns out of thin air.

I do think people like that tend to pick snowbally champions like Shaco and Kassadin rather than farmfest or support champions.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 03 2012 21:05 GMT
#1096
I think the sofa is about to do baron. Someone gonna have to smitesteal that shit or we are going to see the upset of the century.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 03 2012 21:07 GMT
#1097
On January 04 2012 06:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
I think the sofa is about to do baron. Someone gonna have to smitesteal that shit or we are going to see the upset of the century.


whats this all about? CLG joining into TSM house or do they have one on their own now?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#1098
you guys can take whatever champ you want, ill just be super udyr and 1v5 your team regardless huehue. Always jungle, always be 3 levels ahead of solos, never die.
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 03 2012 21:08 GMT
#1099
HSGG and Bekuh moved in below jiji and his GF. A clg apartment complex of sorts.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 03 2012 21:10 GMT
#1100
On January 04 2012 05:48 Senx wrote:
Hotshot and Jijji assembling a couch = 5k viewers. Not sure if I should laugh or cry..


In fairness, this is one of the funniest things i've watched in a long time. Hotshot has no idea what he's doing, at all.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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