EPT[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 107
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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Koenig99
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On January 07 2012 16:58 starfries wrote: Can we talk about AD top? On Loci's stream they're running Vayne top and Panth Janna bot. When would you do something like that? Also Sivir top is pretty beast. I straight up killed a Tryndamere at level 1 although I think he was also just bad. Seems strong against melee though, you can kite them really hard and boomerang them in the face if they try jump you. I was playing as Riven today in top lane and the enemy team sent a Caitlyn to lane against. Boy was that gay....couldn't cs for shit until I got my jungler to help me. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
For the record, I'm with USnip. The warning was unwarranted. I've sent a PM to ETT. Inside jokes are sometimes hard to catch. | ||
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dooraven
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UniversalSnip
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 07 2012 12:07 Shikyo wrote: I agree that the range upgrade doesn't really give much, it's still not going to be of much use unless the enemies jump on you, and only in the extremely rare circumstances where you're chasing but they're out of range of normal W but in range of the augmented W is it going to be useful. It's much much more useful in my opinion to have all your spells increase in damage, with E becoming crazy strong. That may not seem much, but the range upgrade actually makes you able to outrange most people point'n'click cc/engage spells, allowing you to use it offensively. I wouldn't try to engage with non-upgraded Gravity Field, unless I'm in the jungle, simply because then I know I can eat some scuds, or worse, have people blow their gapclosers on me to simply ignore the field. Plus it allows you to make use of the full Death Ray range too. And you need mana sustain anyway, so a bit of cdr + more flexibility + I can avoid getting mp5 items? Yeah, sure. Then again, I try to run him top so I often fight within double AP comps. Get a Rylai, WotA, don't bother about less damage and provide the utility for AoE/"press R" comps, profit. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
when you rely on such a stupid gimmick to be effective its frustrating for both sides. i think in lol atleast all stealths are bad. theres no tactical choice when vayne ults on how to deal with tumble. you can hit her then you cant. if tumble while ulted did something interesting, where the other team had to make a choice it would be a lot better imo | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
On January 07 2012 12:07 Shikyo wrote: I agree that the range upgrade doesn't really give much, it's still not going to be of much use unless the enemies jump on you, and only in the extremely rare circumstances where you're chasing but they're out of range of normal W but in range of the augmented W is it going to be useful. It's much much more useful in my opinion to have all your spells increase in damage, with E becoming crazy strong. I havent found much use so far for the Gravity Augment yet, but I can see it being usefull against a team with a lot of ranged nukers or something similar. For me the reason I generally just go Death is because I find the passive passive (+45ap) the most usefull. The Power upgrade is awesome fun to be honest tho, and there are probably situations where it's not a bad choice at all, but since I build double dorans-->rylais anyway the extra HP aren't that needed, the 6hp/5 is crap and since I've gotten fed early almost all games the dot on the poke is just too tempting. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Maybe hes some secret high ELO master. Catch him out guys, put up the bait! | ||
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Craton
United States17305 Posts
On January 07 2012 18:05 NeoIllusions wrote: No. I'm the primary Banling here but all Reds read the reports that are submitted by TL users. ETT is one of the main moderators. For the record, I'm with USnip. The warning was unwarranted. I've sent a PM to ETT. Inside jokes are sometimes hard to catch. There was no inside joke, just the third insult to someone in the last half a day's worth of pages. On January 07 2012 07:08 daemir wrote: Just waiting for the day supports start properly timing enemy wards like dragon and stuff is timed. Can't be that hard, you don't see support for 5sec and next time you see them they got less ward(s) in inventory. That already gets done. I make an effort to do it in whatever lane I'm in, but usually only the side-lanes can actually see where the ward gets placed so it gets done mostly as a support or top laner. On January 07 2012 13:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Has Loci ever played support? I don't catch his stream that often, but I rarely see him leave middle unless he's playing pantheon. Usually Taric. On January 07 2012 11:59 Zhiroo wrote: I bought Udyr. I'm never gonna play another champion now. I used to like Udyr, but he's just so boring to play and every champ these days has a million free ways of escaping him so I'd rather just jungle someone else. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Got a bad Gragas last game, he ruined every single ult set up with Sona and Graves. :/ | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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RogerX
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Carnivorous Sheep
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On January 07 2012 21:23 Promises wrote: Yea bad gragas's etc can really screw you over ^^ To be honest I could possibly see Viktor not having the real burst of other AP's, but since I got kinda fed early on most games it was hard to notice (Deathray taking people for roughly half their HP and the ult finishing off). I can see Vik having trouble toplaning, but against most other AP's he does fine in my experience. Viktor has lower damage and high cooldowns and mana costs than most common mids TBH. His range isn't that good either. What are runes/masteries/items/etc. for jungle Karthus? Wolves blue or start blue? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Viktor's better off maxing E to be able to push, but the fact that he relies on it makes him bad in trades, Q doesn't do lots of damage, and E's cd's still pretty high early on. I think I might fiddle around with masteries and try 9-15-9 for better survivability/additionnal cdr, on top of the mpen and mana regen he's already getting from offense and utlity. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
15min later Me - 100cs Tryn-14cs 2 dealths lol. <3 smash :D | ||
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Craton
United States17305 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:26 RogerX wrote: Is there any champion counter table or something like that? Yes, but it's pretty worthless because it's largely edited by bad players. If you're at a point where you have to ask about counters instead of knowing what is a counter and why you probably shouldn't be worrying about it in the first place. You need to have that understanding to make counterpicking worthwhile and understand how the other solo and jungle play into it. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
It's just mainly for solotop picks. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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