Interesting. Did they state what sort of changes they will implement?
Edit: also never thought I'd say this, but I'll be really pissed if they ruined shaco D:

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 07 2012 06:52 GMT

#2105

Ya. The so called stealth champs are twitch and eve. All the rest arent getting adjusted.

Again, stealth doesnt make shaco op. Hell, it practically isnt even really useful for ganks. The big thing is that q is the longest range blink any jungle gets. Compared to the stealth aspect, the blink is what makes shaco.

@ anmol- Last I heard twich and eve are would permastealthed, but you detect them when they come close to you. Their stealth abilities (ie the button you used to press for the stealth) would now permastealth at level 1 then grant scaling bonuses (aspeed for twitch, forgot what eves was gonna be).

Although this was a while ago, so I dont know if they decided to continue to modify the system or whatever. But I believe this was the solution xepheros or w/e his name is said they came to.

dooraven

Australia2820 Posts

January 07 2012 06:56 GMT

#2106

Shaco isn't op, he's just annoying as fuck.

dignity

Canada908 Posts

January 07 2012 07:01 GMT

#2107

Play Shaco a few times. Once you learn how he works hes really not that scary.

I used to play Shaco almost exclusively even before his bug fixes and I never get scared when I see another shaco, although that has also got to do with my experiences with other shacos being really really bad.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 07 2012 07:02 GMT

#2108

Loci and ruru lanin together. If you squint really hard and use your imagination its almost like we have an actual TL A again.

Treadmill

Canada2833 Posts

January 07 2012 07:03 GMT

#2109

Wait LoCi started oracles/ward as support taric this game? Thats awesome.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 07 2012 07:06 GMT

#2110

Dat oracles paying for itself lol.

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 07 2012 07:08 GMT

#2111

On January 07 2012 16:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
Loci and ruru lanin together. If you squint really hard and use your imagination its almost like we have an actual TL A again.

Oh the dreams.

anmolsinghmzn2009

India1783 Posts

January 07 2012 07:12 GMT

#2112

so I'm really new to jungling and don't really have a clue about how to deal with the enemy jungler warding my stuff. Like yesterday in a game this enemy nocturne wards near my blue (midgame situation around 18min). Should I get a pink ward to remove it? Get an oracle? Just time his ward and use a green ward on entrances myself so I can see them if they try to take the buff/gank my mid when he tries to take it?

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 07 2012 07:17 GMT

#2113

On January 07 2012 16:12 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
so I'm really new to jungling and don't really have a clue about how to deal with the enemy jungler warding my stuff. Like yesterday in a game this enemy nocturne wards near my blue (midgame situation around 18min). Should I get a pink ward to remove it? Get an oracle? Just time his ward and use a green ward on entrances myself so I can see them if they try to take the buff/gank my mid when he tries to take it?

You dont need to get a pink ward for it. If you dont have an oracles, then all you really have to do is play around the fact they have it warded.

That means handing off/taking blue when you have sight of the enemy jungle & the closest lanes and you know they wont be able to interfere. If you make it so you get the blue when they cannot possibly do anything to stop you you effectively cause the enemy team to waste 75 gold.

Terranasaur

United States2085 Posts

January 07 2012 07:20 GMT

#2114

Ward the entrance and jump him with your midlaner when he come to steal your blue. Then steal his while he is dead.

starfries

Canada3508 Posts

January 07 2012 07:58 GMT

#2115

Can we talk about AD top? On Loci's stream they're running Vayne top and Panth Janna bot. When would you do something like that?

Also Sivir top is pretty beast. I straight up killed a Tryndamere at level 1 although I think he was also just bad. Seems strong against melee though, you can kite them really hard and boomerang them in the face if they try jump you.

anmolsinghmzn2009

India1783 Posts

January 07 2012 08:02 GMT

#2116

On January 07 2012 16:58 starfries wrote:
Can we talk about AD top? On Loci's stream they're running Vayne top and Panth Janna bot. When would you do something like that?

Also Sivir top is pretty beast. I straight up killed a Tryndamere at level 1 although I think he was also just bad. Seems strong against melee though, you can kite them really hard and boomerang them in the face if they try jump you.

Seems a really nice concept. Like vayne can peel for herself with condemn and tumble and she has difficult bot lane matchups from what I understand. Especially if u have a bruiser that can ruin their bot's day, like jarv/pantheon+leona support.

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

January 07 2012 08:08 GMT

#2117

On January 07 2012 15:51 Terranasaur wrote:
That's lame. Removing all the unique and fun mechanics. First dodge, now stealth.

Yeah, annoying shit like redbuff twitch coming to your lane at level 1 was real fun and unique. The ability to zone people while sitting at fountain was unique for sure.
Some stuff just has to be reworked because it's shit.
Most ranged ADs are great top because it's mostly bruisers there who tend to be melee. Only those with gapclosers can do something but they need some levels first.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

January 07 2012 08:22 GMT

#2118

Saint,Chauster,Neo and MiaRose all in the same game.

Not sure what to think about this, but I am in full support of Jungle Karthus.

Normal game, that makes much more sense.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

January 07 2012 08:39 GMT

#2119

haha, jeez, I just cannot catch a break in this thread. Teletubby hates me man.

Original Message From TL.net Bot:
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Really? -_-

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
EvilTeletubby

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Anyway, has anyone else tried jungle cho lately? I've been running attack speed reds and quints, offensive ad masteries, and opening regrowth. You clear very fast (not udyr fast but pretty fast) and can go double gp5 and get incredibly fat. Your clear speed stays high maxing E first and you do soooo much damage, it's ridiculous.

icemanzdoinwork

447 Posts

January 07 2012 08:43 GMT

#2120

On January 07 2012 17:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
haha, jeez, I just cannot catch a break in this thread. Teletubby hates me man.

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I go ms quints, 9/21/0, and open regrowth. Double Gp5 into whatever I need. First b, I try to get the philo/boots. Matched with the ms quints= 1 scary fast chogath.

I like it.