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On January 07 2012 15:43 Attakijing wrote: I thought all stealth champs were getting a remake eventually...
All permaish stealth champs are planned to be remade (eve, twitch). The ones with "tactical stealth" like Talon, Vayne, Shaco are considered fine.
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On January 07 2012 15:30 NeoIllusions wrote: Jokes aside. Is Kerp on a team?
Yep, he's on High Sea Tigers along with YamatoCannon, Tabzzy, Sologamer and 1 more person who I forgot.
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That's lame. Removing all the unique and fun mechanics. First dodge, now stealth.
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On January 07 2012 15:46 NeoIllusions wrote: They are. It's on Riot's evergrowing "to do", soon(tm) list. Interesting. Did they state what sort of changes they will implement? Edit: also never thought I'd say this, but I'll be really pissed if they ruined shaco D:
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Ya. The so called stealth champs are twitch and eve. All the rest arent getting adjusted.
Again, stealth doesnt make shaco op. Hell, it practically isnt even really useful for ganks. The big thing is that q is the longest range blink any jungle gets. Compared to the stealth aspect, the blink is what makes shaco.
@ anmol- Last I heard twich and eve are would permastealthed, but you detect them when they come close to you. Their stealth abilities (ie the button you used to press for the stealth) would now permastealth at level 1 then grant scaling bonuses (aspeed for twitch, forgot what eves was gonna be).
Although this was a while ago, so I dont know if they decided to continue to modify the system or whatever. But I believe this was the solution xepheros or w/e his name is said they came to.
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Shaco isn't op, he's just annoying as fuck.
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Play Shaco a few times. Once you learn how he works hes really not that scary.
I used to play Shaco almost exclusively even before his bug fixes and I never get scared when I see another shaco, although that has also got to do with my experiences with other shacos being really really bad.
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Loci and ruru lanin together. If you squint really hard and use your imagination its almost like we have an actual TL A again.
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Wait LoCi started oracles/ward as support taric this game? Thats awesome.
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Dat oracles paying for itself lol.
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On January 07 2012 16:02 Two_DoWn wrote: Loci and ruru lanin together. If you squint really hard and use your imagination its almost like we have an actual TL A again.
Oh the dreams.
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so I'm really new to jungling and don't really have a clue about how to deal with the enemy jungler warding my stuff. Like yesterday in a game this enemy nocturne wards near my blue (midgame situation around 18min). Should I get a pink ward to remove it? Get an oracle? Just time his ward and use a green ward on entrances myself so I can see them if they try to take the buff/gank my mid when he tries to take it?
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On January 07 2012 16:12 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: so I'm really new to jungling and don't really have a clue about how to deal with the enemy jungler warding my stuff. Like yesterday in a game this enemy nocturne wards near my blue (midgame situation around 18min). Should I get a pink ward to remove it? Get an oracle? Just time his ward and use a green ward on entrances myself so I can see them if they try to take the buff/gank my mid when he tries to take it? You dont need to get a pink ward for it. If you dont have an oracles, then all you really have to do is play around the fact they have it warded.
That means handing off/taking blue when you have sight of the enemy jungle & the closest lanes and you know they wont be able to interfere. If you make it so you get the blue when they cannot possibly do anything to stop you you effectively cause the enemy team to waste 75 gold.
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Ward the entrance and jump him with your midlaner when he come to steal your blue. Then steal his while he is dead.
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Can we talk about AD top? On Loci's stream they're running Vayne top and Panth Janna bot. When would you do something like that?
Also Sivir top is pretty beast. I straight up killed a Tryndamere at level 1 although I think he was also just bad. Seems strong against melee though, you can kite them really hard and boomerang them in the face if they try jump you.
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On January 07 2012 16:58 starfries wrote: Can we talk about AD top? On Loci's stream they're running Vayne top and Panth Janna bot. When would you do something like that?
Also Sivir top is pretty beast. I straight up killed a Tryndamere at level 1 although I think he was also just bad. Seems strong against melee though, you can kite them really hard and boomerang them in the face if they try jump you. Seems a really nice concept. Like vayne can peel for herself with condemn and tumble and she has difficult bot lane matchups from what I understand. Especially if u have a bruiser that can ruin their bot's day, like jarv/pantheon+leona support.
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On January 07 2012 15:51 Terranasaur wrote: That's lame. Removing all the unique and fun mechanics. First dodge, now stealth.
Yeah, annoying shit like redbuff twitch coming to your lane at level 1 was real fun and unique. The ability to zone people while sitting at fountain was unique for sure. Some stuff just has to be reworked because it's shit. Most ranged ADs are great top because it's mostly bruisers there who tend to be melee. Only those with gapclosers can do something but they need some levels first.
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Saint,Chauster,Neo and MiaRose all in the same game.
Not sure what to think about this, but I am in full support of Jungle Karthus.
Normal game, that makes much more sense.
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haha, jeez, I just cannot catch a break in this thread. Teletubby hates me man.
Original Message From TL.net Bot: This is a Warning! Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 14:31 Shikyo wrote: Hey dyrus just said that any 5 of top eu west solo queuers make a team and they rape everyone(kerp is #1 atm) what is with your buttlove for kerp? Really? -_- Thanks in advance for your cooperation, EvilTeletubby (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.)
Anyway, has anyone else tried jungle cho lately? I've been running attack speed reds and quints, offensive ad masteries, and opening regrowth. You clear very fast (not udyr fast but pretty fast) and can go double gp5 and get incredibly fat. Your clear speed stays high maxing E first and you do soooo much damage, it's ridiculous.
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On January 07 2012 17:39 UniversalSnip wrote:haha, jeez, I just cannot catch a break in this thread. Teletubby hates me man. Show nested quote +Original Message From TL.net Bot: This is a Warning! On January 07 2012 14:31 Shikyo wrote: Hey dyrus just said that any 5 of top eu west solo queuers make a team and they rape everyone(kerp is #1 atm) what is with your buttlove for kerp? Really? -_- Thanks in advance for your cooperation, EvilTeletubby (Do not reply to this message. No one will receive it.) Anyway, has anyone else tried jungle cho lately? I've been running attack speed reds and quints, offensive ad masteries, and opening regrowth. You clear very fast (not udyr fast but pretty fast) and can go double gp5 and get incredibly fat. Your clear speed stays high maxing E first and you do soooo much damage, it's ridiculous.
I go ms quints, 9/21/0, and open regrowth. Double Gp5 into whatever I need. First b, I try to get the philo/boots. Matched with the ms quints= 1 scary fast chogath.
I like it.
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