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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 07 2012 15:29 GMT
#2161
wota #1 next item to get nerfed, too efficient.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17235 Posts
January 07 2012 15:30 GMT
#2162
There's nothing wrong with WotA, just it being capable of being stacked.
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 07 2012 15:43 GMT
#2163
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
January 07 2012 15:44 GMT
#2164
if i walk into a tower with no creeps around and take its aggro and than an ally attack an another champ under the tower i will he get the aggro or will it stay on me?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 07 2012 15:45 GMT
#2165
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

Because when you have 2 APs have them, and they both have 50% spellvamp, neither of them ever fucking die.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 07 2012 15:48 GMT
#2166
On January 08 2012 00:45 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

Because when you have 2 APs have them, and they both have 50% spellvamp, neither of them ever fucking die.


That's just stating the obvious of why it's OP *now* and doesn't answer the question of how it actually got OP.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 07 2012 15:49 GMT
#2167
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

It didn't "get" so OP. It has always been a great item (since the last change to it). Just that people are like "damn I don't want to waste money on stats for my team".
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2012 15:54 GMT
#2168
On January 08 2012 00:48 phyvo wrote:
That's just stating the obvious of why it's OP *now* and doesn't answer the question of how it actually got OP.

Is it really surprising that the metagame moves slowly and even players near the top level are fairly resistant to change? This has been a recurring theme for a while now--how it takes an inordinately long time for people to realize how good certain things are.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 07 2012 16:01 GMT
#2169
On January 08 2012 00:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 00:48 phyvo wrote:
That's just stating the obvious of why it's OP *now* and doesn't answer the question of how it actually got OP.

Is it really surprising that the metagame moves slowly and even players near the top level are fairly resistant to change? This has been a recurring theme for a while now--how it takes an inordinately long time for people to realize how good certain things are.

In b4 Starks OP.
Off-season = best season
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 16:03:58
January 07 2012 16:03 GMT
#2170
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

Aura items are under-appreciated because most of the cost is put into team based stats. This makes them less desirable from a solo perspective. When you buy a Rabbadoodle Hat you see exactly what you're getting. But when you get a WoTA, you don't see the full effect on your own. In order to incentivise and justify the cost of team based items, they must be powerful as a result or else you'd rather just get a solo item for the same cost. It's the same thing with Aegis. It's a powerful item, but underappreciated.

The thing with WoTA though is that spellvamp is pretty powerful. On dual AP comps, it synergises so well. And if you have a AD Caster like Graves, it just becomes ridonkulous. Starks is much less useful to stack because not everyone autoattacks (hi AP burst casters without Lichbane core) but everyone likes pressing buttons for spells.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 07 2012 16:20 GMT
#2171
What above said, and also because spell vamp was the most unappreciated stat in the entire game for god knows how long. People finally realized how powerful it can be.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 07 2012 16:24 GMT
#2172
inb4 somehow tiamat op.

I didn't even realize WotA stacked. Well.. you learn something new everyday from LoL subforum
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 07 2012 16:27 GMT
#2173
When I play Panth I really hope our caster or support will get WotA.
Btw, RogerX, it doesn't simply stack: it's just that the game makes a difference between an aura coming from yourself, and from somebody else. So the two people carrying it get double auras, rest of the team gets single.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 07 2012 16:30 GMT
#2174
Oh i see. Still very powerful.

Another thing is it seems the tryndamere QQ has died down quite a bit, what the hell happened? Lol.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 16:38:49
January 07 2012 16:38 GMT
#2175
On January 08 2012 01:30 RogerX wrote:
Oh i see. Still very powerful.

Another thing is it seems the tryndamere QQ has died down quite a bit, what the hell happened? Lol.

He got an irrelevant nerf, so people stopped playing him as much? That's my best guess.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 07 2012 16:47 GMT
#2176
trynd is just a very specific pick that works only against certain lineups. and he fits best into pusher lineups which almost noone plays.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 07 2012 17:00 GMT
#2177
Re Trynd: Current philosophy of balance team is that Forum QQ sometimes raises legitimate issues but the extent of the QQ is unwarranted. So small tiny nerf tweaks make people feel like something has been done, make OP champs into slightly OP and everyone goes back to being happy.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
January 07 2012 17:02 GMT
#2178
On January 08 2012 01:01 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 00:54 TheYango wrote:
On January 08 2012 00:48 phyvo wrote:
That's just stating the obvious of why it's OP *now* and doesn't answer the question of how it actually got OP.

Is it really surprising that the metagame moves slowly and even players near the top level are fairly resistant to change? This has been a recurring theme for a while now--how it takes an inordinately long time for people to realize how good certain things are.

In b4 Starks OP.

You're WAY too late on calling that. Not only did I claim that it is amazing for months now, I've even recently seen it in a CLG scrim (I think), rushed on Sona. People are already in the process of realizing that those aura items are crazy efficient.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
January 07 2012 17:08 GMT
#2179
How the fuck do u counter a nidalee ?
just so much sustain, burst and push 24/7
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 07 2012 17:31 GMT
#2180
On January 08 2012 02:08 emraaa wrote:
How the fuck do u counter a nidalee ?
just so much sustain, burst and push 24/7

Pantheon is nice.
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