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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 07 2012 20:13 GMT
#2201
Just played a LeBlanc as Kennen for the first time ever.

She couldn't really touch me it seemed. The one time she tried to go for me she ate a tower shot while I just took a Q.

Pretty sure Kennen loses to almost no one... Except Swain and maybe Ryze/Annie. Don't like facing Annie as anyone if I don't kill her/get a gank pre 6. She hurts so much.

Side note, Dyrus is a tetris god.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 20:23:30
January 07 2012 20:19 GMT
#2202
This Reddit tournament has a special kind of terrible play.

On January 08 2012 04:40 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Hm. I'm feeling a bit lazy so instead of typing a full set of instructions I'll link you to this YT Video.

Yeah, I've watched that before. The config file he gives (the "default" one, not his "blend") has a bunch of obnoxious changes already included in it like increased damage text size and I think some font changes which I can't be bothered to go back and fix. I'll just stick with the normal gold size.
twitch.tv/cratonz
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 07 2012 20:24 GMT
#2203
http://www.own3d.tv/live/10955/EG_Nhat_Nguyen

Nhat's been casting some reddit tournament all day long, I think this is like loser bracket semi atm. Not all that high level play, but if you're itching for a stream to watch, go check it out.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
January 07 2012 20:35 GMT
#2204
On January 08 2012 05:24 daemir wrote:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/10955/EG_Nhat_Nguyen

Nhat's been casting some reddit tournament all day long, I think this is like loser bracket semi atm. Not all that high level play, but if you're itching for a stream to watch, go check it out.

they just switched to winners final match lol
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 07 2012 20:35 GMT
#2205
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

all the answers you are getting are completely wrong. Basically the item used to be super bad. At the time revolver gave 15% spellvamp (before that it gave 10%) and was pretty much worthless, like it is now. Both items that built out of it, gunblade and wota, were costed with the assumption that revolver had the correct gold per stat ratio. When they buffed revolver up to 20%, they also buffed wota and gunblade to be in line with that. The new revolver turned out to be completely broken so they nerfed it back, then gunblade turned out to be completely broken so they did about the same with that, now there's rumbling about wota... Do you see a pattern?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
January 07 2012 20:38 GMT
#2206
Hey how do i know which junglers are slow enough for me to steal their wraiths in the new jungle?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 20:42:44
January 07 2012 20:42 GMT
#2207
On January 08 2012 05:38 Attakijing wrote:
Hey how do i know which junglers are slow enough for me to steal their wraiths in the new jungle?

Easiest answer is by playing them. The quality of the leach will come into account as well.
The legend of Darien lives on
atmospheric
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria49 Posts
January 07 2012 20:44 GMT
#2208
[image loading]

typical saturday afternoon on EU west. it's impossible to win because in every game at least 2 lanes feed like mad.
playing ranked sucks
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 07 2012 20:50 GMT
#2209
On January 08 2012 05:44 atmospheric wrote:
[image loading]

typical saturday afternoon on EU west. it's impossible to win because in every game at least 2 lanes feed like mad.
playing ranked sucks

So how did the other team win huehue.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 07 2012 20:52 GMT
#2210
On January 08 2012 05:35 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2012 00:43 phyvo wrote:
how the crap did WotA get so OP anyways?

all the answers you are getting are completely wrong. Basically the item used to be super bad. At the time revolver gave 15% spellvamp (before that it gave 10%) and was pretty much worthless, like it is now. Both items that built out of it, gunblade and wota, were costed with the assumption that revolver had the correct gold per stat ratio. When they buffed revolver up to 20%, they also buffed wota and gunblade to be in line with that. The new revolver turned out to be completely broken so they nerfed it back, then gunblade turned out to be completely broken so they did about the same with that, now there's rumbling about wota... Do you see a pattern?


I aggree when your saying that alot of considerations tend to be psychological (a general moba thing). In this case its mb also sth different. WotA has a pretty good ap/gold ratio which ppl ignored for a time. The aura effect is mostly considered as bad for soloq even if the item itself is costeffective and you need the stats. Aegis is another prime example.

Generally I would say most ppl don't do the math at all.

For example tiamat has one of the best AD/gold ratios. If you really just need quick and cheap AD and can make use of the regen and farmspeed it provides then you should buy it. Despite that fact you rarely see this item.

Another problem is that ppl often don't consider buying a bunch of small-middle sized items because they 'clump up the inventory' and you 'delay the important stuff' despite their costeffectiveness, completely ignoring the fact that 99% of the games are decided way (WAY) before you have 5 major 3k+items.

The same goes for consumables. Wether those are wards, buffs or pots: Consumables in LoL cost nothing and provide insane stats/utility. You should allways fill your inventory space with some of them. Popping a healing potion during a fight easily turns the tide. Having a great bunch more stats during 4minutes easily turns the tide. The <250g investment turns into dragons/kills/turrets and freefarm so easily.

Haha I say you, if I only had decent decision making and better nerves I would be the best player out there
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
January 07 2012 20:55 GMT
#2211
TSM scrimming M5/Empire again, Empire just picked Volibear, curious to se how it goes
Romanes eunt domus
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 21:02:03
January 07 2012 20:56 GMT
#2212
This lee sin top in an earlier game today was csing like a boss. 404 cs by the end of game. He was at steady 10cs per minute whole match (so 200 @ 20, 300 @ 30) carried his team pretty hard.

destroying his lane again, 80 to 25 cs vs ahri and got fb on ahri.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 07 2012 21:02 GMT
#2213
On January 08 2012 05:55 BobMcJohnson wrote:
TSM scrimming M5/Empire again, Empire just picked Volibear, curious to se how it goes

volibear isn't that bad as a laner in all honesty
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
January 07 2012 21:07 GMT
#2214
Reginald raging hard
twitch.tv/cratonz
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 21:10:08
January 07 2012 21:08 GMT
#2215
Dumb whining from regi, oddone didn't have mana for any of his skills when he banzaid on that ryze.

on this reddit tournament thing, ahri has doubled her 25cs @ 10minutes to 50 cs @20mins lol
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
January 07 2012 21:08 GMT
#2216
lolololol TSM chat...too many "dudes"
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
January 07 2012 21:10 GMT
#2217
Lolol Regi raging hard on Xpecial
End my suffering
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
January 07 2012 21:10 GMT
#2218
Reginald is basically insulting the shit out of Xpecial when Reginald is completely wrong.
twitch.tv/cratonz
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
January 07 2012 21:10 GMT
#2219
lol regi so being such an ass right now
Best Teemo World
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 21:11:17
January 07 2012 21:10 GMT
#2220
On January 08 2012 05:55 BobMcJohnson wrote:
TSM scrimming M5/Empire again, Empire just picked Volibear, curious to se how it goes

SoloQ style raging going on among TSM. Rofl should have figured everyone would jump onto the drama.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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