[Patch 1.0.0.131: Ahri] General Discussion - Page 170

On December 24 2011 20:30 RogerX wrote:
Interesting. In other news Morde is strong again
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I think, he was strong when i played against him.
I want to play my Rammus again ):

I think im just a bad player though, i went mid lane vs him as Kennen. We traded equally, dominated him pre level 5 but then he started to push like hell and i couldn't get close cus of that cone, hit him with a Q just take 75 percent of his shield away, QQ T.T

On December 25 2011 00:41 starfries wrote:

For most people vs Morde you just have to zone the crap out of him and make his life as miserable as possible before he gets enough levels to become unstoppable.

On December 25 2011 02:02 Niton wrote:
On the subject of Rammus, one of the things about him is that his ult does a ton of fucking damage:

Here's Tremors' raw numbers (per target):

Maximum Magic Damage: 520 / 1040 / 1560 (+2.40 per ability power) over 8 seconds

And some other best-case numbers:

Death Lotus: 500 / 650 / 800 (+5 Bonus AD, +2.5 per ability power) (To 3 targets over 3 seconds)
Crowstorm: 625 / 1125 / 1625 (+2.25 per ability power) (over 5 seconds)
The Equalizer: 750 / 925 / 1200 (+1.5 per ability power) (over 5 seconds)
Soul Shackle: 350 / 500 / 650 (+1.6 per ability power), 1 or 2 hits over 3 seconds
Slicing Maelstrom: 240 / 435 / 630 (+1.2 per ability power), maximum 2 / 3.33 / 5 targets over ? seconds

While you might not get caught in Tremors for its full 8 second duration terribly often, its total damage is right up there with a lot of the beefier AoE ultimates in the game. And it hits structures! And its cooldown is almost nonexistent! With a cooldown of 36 seconds at the 40% CDR mark that's incredibly powerful for Rammus anyways, you can use it for a teamfight and have it again for whatever objective you go after next.

Conclusion? Rammus OP.

On December 25 2011 02:13 travis wrote:
except doesn't MR reduce that amount by a ton?

On December 25 2011 02:43 Parnage wrote:
Rammus is great for people who never invest in cleanse or QSS. Which is the majority of the playerbase so Rammus is strong. However, when people invest in either of these abilities Rammus becomes fairly meh except for powerballing into folks to mess with them. I think people are just being abit silly complaining about Rammus. He's always been a good pick but people just stopped playing him in favour of amumu and now he's back in favour and everyone makes fun of Amumu. *shrug*

On December 25 2011 02:28 NSANE.hydra wrote:
True damage is alright on autoattackers because there are items that lower attack speed. On casters it's dumb, unless Riot releases some item that reduces all surrounding enemy's CDR, or an item with an active silence or something. You know a mechanic is stupid if nothing can really counter it.

On December 25 2011 02:28 NSANE.hydra wrote:
True damage is alright on autoattackers because there are items that lower attack speed. On casters it's dumb, unless Riot releases some item that reduces all surrounding enemy's CDR, or an item with an active silence or something. You know a mechanic is stupid if nothing can really counter it.

On December 25 2011 02:58 Ryuu314 wrote:

Well you're not going to have QSS during laning when Rammus is ganking a shitton. Cleanse is still unpopular at lower elos, but higher elos are already having carries switch to cleanse.

Amumu's crappy because he has no map presence until he hits 6. It's not even like WW who can hardly gank 'til he hits 6; WW can at least hold and control his jungle. Amumu can do absolutely nothing until he gets a decent amount of levels and farm. His ult is very stron for fights, but against a good team Amumu and his team is never going to reach midgame without being extremely behind. Just watch any recent tournament game with Amumu.