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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Haato
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico81 Posts
December 12 2011 06:08 GMT
#3861
does riot have some sort of IP hax that prevents you from queue dodging and then switching accounts to avoid the wait time penalty now?
I swear it could be done before but now you can't log into chat service for any other account you try.
death is easy, comedy is hard
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 12 2011 06:08 GMT
#3862
My problem with getting an aegis as a jungler is that normally I can buy something that benefits the team more (IE an actual full tank item) that just lets me either kill everything or tank everything. The exception being champs that have an absurd amount of built in resists already like shyvana where an aegis is all you really need to bump your resists up to stupid levels.

Like my problem with aegis is that its a good item, but there really isnt a single role that feels good buying it. Support gets shurelias for the movespeed, jungle has better options (and at this point is damn near as gold starved as support), ap and ad carries arent gonna get it. To me, it seems like solo top tanky dps is realistically the best bet since they get the most farm for a class that benefits from aegis directly, but again, there are better options that bring more power for a tp dragon fight (ie damage or direct tank).

So ya. Its a good item. Its just IMO there is no decent option to pick one up outside a few edge cases.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 12 2011 06:11 GMT
#3863
if both top lane and jungle build aegis, they will be gods, because it stacks for user.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 06:12:28
December 12 2011 06:12 GMT
#3864
On December 12 2011 14:41 Vaporized wrote:
just played an awesome game.

my (ryze), yorick, and morgana 3v5 leblanc, cho, shaco, panth, janna. epic win.


I had an epic 3v5 that went 50 minutes into a loss once gj for winning

We had a support (sona) which made it a little harder
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 12 2011 06:22 GMT
#3865
On December 12 2011 14:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 14:36 overt wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:25 STS17 wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
All the aura items are stupidly powerful. People just don't seem to want to buy them for whatever reason.


Well, when you think about it, they kinda have to be.

eh iunno Aegis seems to be kinda mediocre compared to what WotA and Stark's give. Ironically it's the one that sees the most use.


How does it seem mediocre? WotA/Starks benefit 2 maybe 3 people on your team. Aegis benefits everyone with free Armor/MR.

WotA gives everyone 25% spellvamp which can be used by anyone who spams active abilities which is...everyone. Starks more niche I agree, but the +30 health regen aura by itself is silly; not even mentioning the aspd, lifesteal, and minus armor aura. For comparison, Philo only gives +18 health regen, regrowth is +15.

oh hey my 3k post. Imma high templar now. STORMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
relevant+ Show Spoiler +


Too lazy to do the math (and I'm not even sure how you'd do it properly) but I'm like 90% sure the Armor/MR you get from Aegis gives the team as a whole more survivability than WotA does.

Not saying that WotA is bad, it's probably better than Aegis. Just that I don't think Aegis is worse than it by a super wide margin. I also think it's probably better than Stark's but again, I'm too lazy to do the math.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 12 2011 06:29 GMT
#3866
too lazy to read up, but the same people are not going to get aegis AND wota unless they're support going for auras
in which case i would rather get aegis so i don't die, ap is better off getting the wota since aegis is cheaper, etc etc
:)
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 12 2011 06:48 GMT
#3867
that's why you go aurakaiser

aegis, wota, randuins, abyssal

always support never die
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 12 2011 06:52 GMT
#3868
On December 12 2011 14:41 Vaporized wrote:
just played an awesome game.

my (ryze), yorick, and morgana 3v5 leblanc, cho, shaco, panth, janna. epic win.


How...?
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
December 12 2011 06:53 GMT
#3869
Have you guys read this LoL fanfiction? It's pure gold.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1576905
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 07:03:38
December 12 2011 06:58 GMT
#3870
On December 12 2011 15:22 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 14:40 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:36 overt wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:25 STS17 wrote:
On December 12 2011 14:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
All the aura items are stupidly powerful. People just don't seem to want to buy them for whatever reason.


Well, when you think about it, they kinda have to be.

eh iunno Aegis seems to be kinda mediocre compared to what WotA and Stark's give. Ironically it's the one that sees the most use.


How does it seem mediocre? WotA/Starks benefit 2 maybe 3 people on your team. Aegis benefits everyone with free Armor/MR.

WotA gives everyone 25% spellvamp which can be used by anyone who spams active abilities which is...everyone. Starks more niche I agree, but the +30 health regen aura by itself is silly; not even mentioning the aspd, lifesteal, and minus armor aura. For comparison, Philo only gives +18 health regen, regrowth is +15.

oh hey my 3k post. Imma high templar now. STORMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
relevant+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IbwjeCx6U


Too lazy to do the math (and I'm not even sure how you'd do it properly) but I'm like 90% sure the Armor/MR you get from Aegis gives the team as a whole more survivability than WotA does.

Not saying that WotA is bad, it's probably better than Aegis. Just that I don't think Aegis is worse than it by a super wide margin. I also think it's probably better than Stark's but again, I'm too lazy to do the math.

The vast majority of the stats you get from Aegis are only for the holder of the Aegis. Aegis is great, don't get me wrong, but the majority of its cost is purely for the holder. Whereas Starks and WotA have the majority of their cost benefit onto the aura.

Aegis probably, more like definitely , gives the team more survivability than WotA and Starks, but they don't fill the same roles. Aegis is for just buffing your team's defense, while WotA/Starks are more geared towards sustain and offensive capabilities. To put it in perspective, Stark's gives 2/3 of a fully stacked warmog's health regen and a ghostblade's armor penon top of zeal's attack speed and more lifesteal than anything but a fully stacked BT to your whole team.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 12 2011 07:02 GMT
#3871
On December 12 2011 14:41 Vaporized wrote:
just played an awesome game.

my (ryze), yorick, and morgana 3v5 leblanc, cho, shaco, panth, janna. epic win.


I love 3v5 wins. My last one I was Jarvan and destroyed 1v2 bot lane and got brutalizer+Atmogs before Ashe got IE. Both mid and top won their lanes. <3 good teammates.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 12 2011 07:08 GMT
#3872
The real plus to wota currently is that there are no spellvamp items that physical casters can get without going slightly crazy. So slapping a wota on your ap carry or support makes someone like graves very happy.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
December 12 2011 07:10 GMT
#3873
On December 12 2011 15:53 Ferrose wrote:
Have you guys read this LoL fanfiction? It's pure gold.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1576905


Hahah, that was golden!
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
December 12 2011 07:13 GMT
#3874
On December 12 2011 15:53 Ferrose wrote:
Have you guys read this LoL fanfiction? It's pure gold.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1576905


You've read it, you can't unread it!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 12 2011 07:13 GMT
#3875
On December 12 2011 15:53 Ferrose wrote:
Have you guys read this LoL fanfiction? It's pure gold.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1576905


My head is full of fuck!
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
December 12 2011 07:24 GMT
#3876
On December 12 2011 15:53 Ferrose wrote:
Have you guys read this LoL fanfiction? It's pure gold.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1576905


Wrong metal, you should know better with your username!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 12 2011 07:30 GMT
#3877
O.e the only way that story could be more disturbing is if locodoco streamed himself fapping to it.........

As for the aura items, it's mainly because defensive stats are overall just better for your team as a whole. Wota and starks are more situational. You whole team can always benefit from more def, but more AS on your support or some spell vamp on an ashe isn't as useful. So those items need to be slightly more cost efficient than aegis already is to make up for the "waste" that often is thrown in.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 07:40:09
December 12 2011 07:39 GMT
#3878
On December 12 2011 16:30 BlackPaladin wrote:
O.e the only way that story could be more disturbing is if locodoco streamed himself fapping to it.........

As for the aura items, it's mainly because defensive stats are overall just better for your team as a whole. Wota and starks are more situational. You whole team can always benefit from more def, but more AS on your support or some spell vamp on an ashe isn't as useful. So those items need to be slightly more cost efficient than aegis already is to make up for the "waste" that often is thrown in.

It'll have Loco's Fap of Approval?
Stark's is insane if you have a heavy physical dps team and it's a really underrated item. It also gives you some sustain if you have a noheal support like janna.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
December 12 2011 07:53 GMT
#3879
anyone know when the patch notes are gonna hit? pretty sure they usually release them sunday night
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 12 2011 08:03 GMT
#3880
On December 12 2011 16:53 Xevious wrote:
anyone know when the patch notes are gonna hit? pretty sure they usually release them sunday night

They usually release them the same night they're gonna patch, never seen them sunday night.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
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