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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 23:36:09
November 17 2011 23:35 GMT
#921
I am okay with not getting a DOTA2 key. o_O

They don't have some of the hero's I want to play yet so no big deal for me.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 17 2011 23:44 GMT
#922
Nobody ever thought of surge on Kass' W ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#923
So Xerath is kinda OP....
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 23:56:09
November 17 2011 23:55 GMT
#924
On November 18 2011 08:44 -Zoda- wrote:
Nobody ever thought of surge on Kass' W ?

Kass really shouldn't be autoattacking anyways except to clean up so surge won't be too useful imo
On November 18 2011 08:55 Koenig99 wrote:
So Xerath is kinda OP....

Been saying that since release ^_^
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 18 2011 00:03 GMT
#925
On November 18 2011 08:55 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:44 -Zoda- wrote:
Nobody ever thought of surge on Kass' W ?

Kass really shouldn't be autoattacking anyways except to clean up so surge won't be too useful imo
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 08:55 Koenig99 wrote:
So Xerath is kinda OP....

Been saying that since release ^_^


Yeah, I've been on a Xerath binge the last few days and I've yet to discover a losing match-up. I find that he's sorta like AP Sion in the sense that he can push the lane real hard, then head bot for a gank, go back to mid and still have the creepwave almost to his tower.

His lane harass is also ridiculous. I usually get the enemy mid to about 50% by the time I hit lvl 6, and once I hit 6, I start zoning them real hard because E>R>Q combo is pretty much instant death.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
November 18 2011 00:09 GMT
#926
tbh I deserve the key cause I can't even play LoL atm because I got a 1 week ban for being an absolute tosser. I'm starting to enter a withdrawal phase atm and it's not fun.

(And yes I did deserve that ban i was being an absolute dickhead)
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 18 2011 00:46 GMT
#927
On November 18 2011 09:09 Hynda wrote:
tbh I deserve the key cause I can't even play LoL atm because I got a 1 week ban for being an absolute tosser. I'm starting to enter a withdrawal phase atm and it's not fun.

(And yes I did deserve that ban i was being an absolute dickhead)

So you deserve access to dota because you were a jerk? That doesn't really make sense to me.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 00:48:21
November 18 2011 00:48 GMT
#928
okay i feel like an idiot right now. i bought renekton for absolutely no reason instead of buying someone i actually want to play and buy lol
BW -> League -> CSGO
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 00:51:04
November 18 2011 00:50 GMT
#929
On November 18 2011 09:48 wussleeQ wrote:
okay i feel like an idiot right now. i bought renekton for absolutely no reason instead of buying someone i actually want to play and buy lol

Renekton is fun~ You can dive in 1v5 and still win. That is assuming your team comes to help whether that dive was a good idea or not :D
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 18 2011 00:53 GMT
#930
On November 18 2011 09:09 Hynda wrote:
tbh I deserve the key cause I can't even play LoL atm because I got a 1 week ban for being an absolute tosser. I'm starting to enter a withdrawal phase atm and it's not fun.

(And yes I did deserve that ban i was being an absolute dickhead)

Time to start leveling a smurf imo
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
November 18 2011 00:53 GMT
#931
On November 18 2011 09:46 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 09:09 Hynda wrote:
tbh I deserve the key cause I can't even play LoL atm because I got a 1 week ban for being an absolute tosser. I'm starting to enter a withdrawal phase atm and it's not fun.

(And yes I did deserve that ban i was being an absolute dickhead)

So you deserve access to dota because you were a jerk? That doesn't really make sense to me.

Well, it kinda does. The DotA community makes the LoL community look like saints.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 01:05:07
November 18 2011 01:00 GMT
#932
On November 18 2011 09:50 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 09:48 wussleeQ wrote:
okay i feel like an idiot right now. i bought renekton for absolutely no reason instead of buying someone i actually want to play and buy lol

Renekton is fun~ You can dive in 1v5 and still win. That is assuming your team comes to help whether that dive was a good idea or not :D


Yeah he is, though the balance between getting more tank and more damage is not that easy, at least for me. Especially after a really good laning phase I am overestimating myself a lot. Also playing him makes me wanting to be super aggressive for some reason. Probably that is why his energy resource is rage. xD

Probably just need to practice him more. But all these shiny other champions that can be played top are very distracting.

edit: to clarify, early game when you get your bruta and just blow up your opponent in lane and then you feel like you 3 hit everything, then you get a bunch of tank stuff and suddenly don't do damage anymore. At least that is how it feels sometimes. Also I hate it, when you dive into the enemy team, stun one of their squishies, Q everyone but then you can't actually finish anyone, because all your stuff is on CC and his autoattack aren't that good. (ofc your teammates focus the tank in the meantime.)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 18 2011 01:05 GMT
#933
brutalizer and atmogs for all situations
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
November 18 2011 01:08 GMT
#934
On November 18 2011 10:05 Craton wrote:
brutalizer and atmogs for all situations


For me it always feels like an eternity to finally get my warmogs together. Probably means my farm is too weak. Maybe I play to aggressive early on and miss CS or I simply don't farm well enough.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 18 2011 01:17 GMT
#935
On November 18 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:
So apparently post-patch Olaf and Trundle with 21/9/0 can start Vamp Scepter and do a full wolves->blue->wraiths->red->minis clear...


You don't even know. AD characters with absolutely zero sustain can now clear indefinitely with cloth 5 at a very high speed. First game after patch I went enemy wraiths wolves wraiths double golems red blue (no smite) wolves wraiths double golem. On master yi, and without any particular proc luck. 21/9/0 is bullshit, I don't care what anyone says.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14076 Posts
November 18 2011 01:20 GMT
#936
I've thought xerath is like brand really but with his cruch skill w is now a 1/2 power insta cast ult that gets blown 3 times. and a stright line poke.

His anchor is just fucking retarded. a speed boost after becoming immobile for a second is stupid
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
November 18 2011 01:38 GMT
#937
Surge does more damage than ignite under optimal conditions. It lasts 12 seconds, keep that in mind. It´s conditional which one is better, how well does the champion use the stats? Does the enemy rely on healing effects? Does he have Cleanse/QSS?

Also the trollpool makes a return, Vlads E stacks can get the Healsummoner up to 900...
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 18 2011 01:40 GMT
#938
On November 18 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:
So apparently post-patch Olaf and Trundle with 21/9/0 can start Vamp Scepter and do a full wolves->blue->wraiths->red->minis clear...

did this with shaco using a full AS page
smite wraith>minis>red>wraiths>wolves>blue
clear at 3:30 with 600 health
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 18 2011 01:42 GMT
#939
On November 18 2011 10:40 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:
So apparently post-patch Olaf and Trundle with 21/9/0 can start Vamp Scepter and do a full wolves->blue->wraiths->red->minis clear...

did this with shaco using a full AS page
smite wraith>minis>red>wraiths>wolves>blue
clear at 3:30 with 600 health

Ya I just played a game where they popped my boxes at red, so I just smote big wraith, did golems, wolves, blue gols red. You literally cant destroy his jungle anymore.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 18 2011 01:42 GMT
#940
At level 18 you can get it over 1000.
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