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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 18 2011 01:57 GMT
#941
On November 18 2011 10:08 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 10:05 Craton wrote:
brutalizer and atmogs for all situations


For me it always feels like an eternity to finally get my warmogs together. Probably means my farm is too weak. Maybe I play to aggressive early on and miss CS or I simply don't farm well enough.

Probably. Unless you get really counter picked by something super gay like maybe a ryze or swain you shouldn't have much trouble getting your warmogs. Sometimes I skip bruta, but it depends on how things are going.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2011 02:14 GMT
#942
Hmm...the server isn't working for me. Anyone else having this issue, or is it just me?
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 18 2011 02:15 GMT
#943
anyone wanna take a guess what the fastest possible jungle clear time is now with full AS + green pot + smite + surge is?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 18 2011 02:18 GMT
#944
Is Swain that intimidating against melee opponents? Had a Pantheon only farm against me, even using his spear for it, instead of harassing me. Ended up under his turret pushing waves after waves and E'ing him sometimes for kicks (300 damage against no sustain, and if he tries to retaliate Q... but then again, I had double his cs and level 6+ by that time).
Since I always read about super aggressive Panth, I guess he wasn't that good at playing him. Luckily for him he got carried by Graves+Galio.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 18 2011 02:32 GMT
#945
On November 18 2011 11:18 Alaric wrote:
Is Swain that intimidating against melee opponents? Had a Pantheon only farm against me, even using his spear for it, instead of harassing me. Ended up under his turret pushing waves after waves and E'ing him sometimes for kicks (300 damage against no sustain, and if he tries to retaliate Q... but then again, I had double his cs and level 6+ by that time).
Since I always read about super aggressive Panth, I guess he wasn't that good at playing him. Luckily for him he got carried by Graves+Galio.


I think so, dunno how they're supposed to win the lane.

Early game, swain can just E all the time against melees. If you keep CSing, you won't run out of mana anytime soon. If they try to retaliate, you just Q and W and run away, winning the trade 95% of the time.

After ulti and your first trip back, just keep doing the same thing, harrassing him for every single CS with Q + E. If he tries to commit to a fight, you pop everything you have and kite/chase with ulti, they WILL die (if you run ignite atleast).

I'm not a high level player, so the guys I play against are pretty bad most of the time, but I don't see what they could do.

If you're on even terms when you get your ulti (which isn't all that hard, considering how strong swain is with spam E + auto harrass against melee), they will probably not be able to straight up fight you for the rest of the laning phase. The damage + sustain is ridic, especially with E scaling ignites damage.

Swain n1 birdie
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 02:47:25
November 18 2011 02:43 GMT
#946
This game just restored my faith in solo queue.
http://i.imgur.com/Vc1XK.jpg

It's a bit excessive but it's a flaw I'd gladly have.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 18 2011 02:50 GMT
#947
On November 18 2011 11:18 Alaric wrote:
Is Swain that intimidating against melee opponents? Had a Pantheon only farm against me, even using his spear for it, instead of harassing me. Ended up under his turret pushing waves after waves and E'ing him sometimes for kicks (300 damage against no sustain, and if he tries to retaliate Q... but then again, I had double his cs and level 6+ by that time).
Since I always read about super aggressive Panth, I guess he wasn't that good at playing him. Luckily for him he got carried by Graves+Galio.


Swain pretty much shits on melee characters. That's his job. Laser bird for free damage if they ever come close, and if they want to trade, you snare them and beat them up some more.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 18 2011 02:57 GMT
#948
Real shoutout on Elementz stream o.o
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 18 2011 03:34 GMT
#949
Just played a game with an AP Yi who went 26-2.

AP Yi new meta - discuss.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 03:35:47
November 18 2011 03:35 GMT
#950
On November 18 2011 11:50 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 11:18 Alaric wrote:
Is Swain that intimidating against melee opponents? Had a Pantheon only farm against me, even using his spear for it, instead of harassing me. Ended up under his turret pushing waves after waves and E'ing him sometimes for kicks (300 damage against no sustain, and if he tries to retaliate Q... but then again, I had double his cs and level 6+ by that time).
Since I always read about super aggressive Panth, I guess he wasn't that good at playing him. Luckily for him he got carried by Graves+Galio.


Swain pretty much shits on melee characters. That's his job. Laser bird for free damage if they ever come close, and if they want to trade, you snare them and beat them up some more.


<3 swain

e + ignite op
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FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:10:15
November 18 2011 03:55 GMT
#951
Clg skrimming against atlantas team (forgot the name, goose?)

also a new stream http://clgaming.net/live/5181-clg-shoutcasts

not sure what it's about

Hotshot and Elementz swapped roles for this game it seems.

Goose running jungle yi :D
Veni, vidi, vici!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:06:41
November 18 2011 04:03 GMT
#952
On November 18 2011 12:55 FR4CT4L wrote:
Clg skrimming against atlantas team (forgot the name, goose?)

also a new stream http://clgaming.net/live/5181-clg-shoutcasts

not sure what it's about


Well the person on that stream is Xelpi so I'm assuming he's going to be providing commentary for the game.

FourCourtJester is trying to provide him tips so the obvious appears correct.

400 people know FourCourtJester's skype now...laugh
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
November 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#953
On November 18 2011 11:57 HazMat wrote:
Real shoutout on Elementz stream o.o


Wait, who was the shoutout for?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 18 2011 04:16 GMT
#954
Just went 14-4-4 with riven. And I haven't played riven since she first came out.

Did they buff her? or did I just get lucky as shit?
liftlift > tsm
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:19:09
November 18 2011 04:16 GMT
#955
Interesting things to note about this scrim between CLG and Goose
  • hotshotGG is playing support
  • hotshotGG is not running CV
  • Goose is running a very strange composition with mostly magic damage
  • Goose has jungle Yi
  • Goose is running Blitzstar bottom and doesn't have an ad carry (their only ad is Yi)
  • Lapaka is jungling for CLG (SV mia)
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 18 2011 04:20 GMT
#956
For those who have ever wondered how good RiotVeigar, Coronarch, Marcou, or JeffJew are at LoL, there is an in-house Riot Tournament on right now. Stream here!
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
November 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#957
On November 18 2011 13:20 MoonBear wrote:
For those who have ever wondered how good RiotVeigar, Coronarch, Marcou, or JeffJew are at LoL, there is an in-house Riot Tournament on right now. Stream here!


Is it just me or is that stream extremely laggy?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 18 2011 04:37 GMT
#958
On November 18 2011 13:35 jtype wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:20 MoonBear wrote:
For those who have ever wondered how good RiotVeigar, Coronarch, Marcou, or JeffJew are at LoL, there is an in-house Riot Tournament on right now. Stream here!


Is it just me or is that stream extremely laggy?


The stream is frozen for me basically. I'm getting audio, but it's skipping almost all the frames.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:45:17
November 18 2011 04:41 GMT
#959
On November 18 2011 13:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Interesting things to note about this scrim between CLG and Goose
  • hotshotGG is playing support
  • hotshotGG is not running CV
  • Goose is running a very strange composition with mostly magic damage
  • Goose has jungle Yi
  • Goose is running Blitzstar bottom and doesn't have an ad carry (their only ad is Yi)
  • Lapaka is jungling for CLG (SV mia)


Didn't hotshot start off as a duo lane player? I seem to remember him bot a lot early on and jiji/Chauster being the solos. Maybe they go back to what worked so well in the beginning? Although times have changed and other teams have gotten much better.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 18 2011 04:48 GMT
#960
On November 18 2011 13:41 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 13:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Interesting things to note about this scrim between CLG and Goose
  • hotshotGG is playing support
  • hotshotGG is not running CV
  • Goose is running a very strange composition with mostly magic damage
  • Goose has jungle Yi
  • Goose is running Blitzstar bottom and doesn't have an ad carry (their only ad is Yi)
  • Lapaka is jungling for CLG (SV mia)


Didn't hotshot start off as a duo lane player? I seem to remember him bot a lot early on and jiji/Chauster being the solos. Maybe they go back to what worked so well in the beginning? Although times have changed and other teams have gotten much better.

HS has been talking about switching back to suppot for a while, and he ACTUALLY PRACTICES IT in solo q, whereas elementz does... something.

I definitely think there is a better chance of HSGG+jiji working out than Ele+jiji. What remains to be seen is if ele can pick up top lane.
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