EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 8
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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. - Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th | ||
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shinarit
Hungary900 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 01 2011 23:41 red_b wrote: oh look it's another post that basically says: "you think we make our game based around baddies? DEAL WITH IT". Riot lost me with the Nid nerfs. I finally found a character that took some mechanical skill and thought to play decently and Riot came in and said "no no no if you're good it's too easy to get out in front of bad players and stay there". what the fuck, I thought that was the point? dota 2 cannot come out fast enough. as far as this patch goes it's a small set of changes but I'm nominating Talon for the new J4; good to garbage in a manner of weeks because of repeated and unnecessary patching. LoL is still stilted way too heavily. Early the damage/defense ratio is way too far on defense, because yet again it's not "fun" to get blown up because you're an idiot. Can we please have a PTR with no flash just to try it out? There's a difference between balancing around the bottom 10% and making sure those players have fun. It's no fun when bad players play and one of them picks a strong and easy champ that just lets them win 100% of the time at that level. Then it's no fun for that player when they get carried by that champ to higher levels and then get stomped by people who actually know how to play the game. Riot balancing at all levels of play instead of just the top 3% is the difference between a game with a few thousand players and a game with a few million players. Fun and anti-fun are real things, and from the way you complain about MoonBear's post, you're pissed because you recieve fun from the enemy's anti-fun. Snowball is anti-fun. Akali, in some regard, is an anti-fun champ because if she gets a kill or two, kiss your asshole goodbye because she owns the game unless you move in a group at all times. It isn't fun to hear "you have been slain" a bunch of times, so yes there is a slant towards defensiveness and survivability, especially in the early game. If your only response is "I don't agree with your decisions, fuck you I'm going to DOTA2", then have fun, we'll be fine without you. Edit: closing response was a bit too harsh, forgive me. | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
Don't know how the roamer should be designed, if it is "gold pr distance traveled" or stronger/faster in river. I think it would stop these highlevel games from being at the "low action" level they are now in laning phase. Hehe, either that or just remove flash. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
It wasn't about nidalee being easy it was about nidalee being overpowered. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
So where's the monkey love? | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:09 xDaunt wrote: On another topic, why don't more people play Wukong? I've only seen him a couple times, but he is frustratingly obnoxious to play against -- particularly in the laning phase. He can harass with you near impunity using his E and W. More importantly, he hits HARD. All he needs is to bring a couple mana pots to lane to sustain the harass. I think he'd be pretty good in teamfights with his ult, which is basically garen's spin-to-win on steroids + a disable. So where's the monkey love? I don't know about other people, but I just don't think he's fun :/ He's super strong, for sure, but it's the same reason I don't play a lot of other strong champs. I think his kit is good, but boring. Generic and dull things like charge, on hit, AoE ult with disable. Clone is cool, but not enough for me to pick him over more fun champions like Riven or someone. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:09 xDaunt wrote: On another topic, why don't more people play Wukong? I've only seen him a couple times, but he is frustratingly obnoxious to play against -- particularly in the laning phase. He can harass with you near impunity using his E and W. More importantly, he hits HARD. All he needs is to bring a couple mana pots to lane to sustain the harass. I think he'd be pretty good in teamfights with his ult, which is basically garen's spin-to-win on steroids + a disable. So where's the monkey love? People dismissed him as either bad or mediocre when he first came out. He got a few bug fixes and some small buffs in a few patches and people started trying him again and realized he's pretty good. I don't think the buffs he got in this patch were that big of a deal but I hope they don't buff him anymore as he's already pretty good. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:19 Alzadar wrote: The skill that makes you lose control of your movement and just slide at an accelerated rate in the direction you were going sounds hilarious and fun. Was that made up or is it from DotA? The more fluid way to implement that would just be the Force Staff active--shoves the target 600 units in the direction they're facing. Accomplishes the same thing on enemies, while acting as an escape/initiate/gap closer when used properly on yourself/allies. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
zzz Make Cougar form abilities cost mana. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
Edit: or you could go 21-9-0 with nimbleness and be a dodging dragaon capable of assassinating squishies. RWAAAAR! | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:25 Craton wrote: What could possibly be broken about a form that has a free low cd leap and also gives her innate tankiness? zzz Make Cougar form abilities cost mana. But then you'd use all your mana and wouldn't be able to spam 25% enemy health spears like a spear-chucking c*nt. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:22 Brees wrote: nidalee still is overpowered anyway. playing against a good nidalee is still beyond frustrating because there's really nothing you can do. At least 5 players in top 100 solo q ladder right now that played a shitload of nid to get there 5 in the top 100 is hardly indicative of anything, except that she's pretty good. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:28 Requizen wrote: But then you'd use all your mana and wouldn't be able to spam 25% enemy health spears like a spear-chucking c*nt. You would just start off with a tear and build arch angel's. Problem solved. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On November 02 2011 00:36 Sabin010 wrote: You would just start off with a tear and build arch angel's. Problem solved. Cougar form abilities build tear right? Funny thing is to play Nid and Kass together, nuts mobility and use cougar abilities to get his wave up every 2sec | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
If you play a lot of champs of the same role, when do you choose one over the other? | ||
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