EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 10
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:28 Juicyfruit wrote: She would be a red-buff reliant ganker but she has an innate speed boost and seems like she would be ridiculously FAST. I have not really seen her in lane yet but she's doesn't seem as item-dependent as trynd/riven ,_, Plus, when you have a toolkit that synergizes abilities with autoattacks that just begs jungling (i.e. skarner and to some extent, XZ) I think with red buff she'll have really good ganks. Plus once she has 6 she has a pretty strong gank assuming fury doesn't tick down while you aren't attacking. Pulling multiple enemies towards your tower sounds really strong you'd just have to approach the enemy from behind. Even without ult though move speed buff plus good damage plus red buff sounds like a scary gank. As Yango said, she'll probably end up as a laner as she seems strong in lane but I think she'll be more viable in jungle than like Riven or Tryndamere. edit: And SV is about to jungle Shyvana right now. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
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rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:42 overt wrote: SV just did full clear in about 3:35-3:40. And getting down to sub-100 health with 21 offense masteries. In practice, you'd want to spec more defensively to finish on higher health than that, so that clear time isn't really representative. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:49 NeoIllusions wrote: How is that representative? saint really likes to full clear with junglers asaply. The fact that Shyvana can do it in one go without backing is a plus imo. To be fair, he got really low and it's a normal game. He didn't have to deal with any sort of invasion or whatever either. She's probably better in lane but I think running her in jungle is really good. Fury doesn't decrease when you're out of dragon form so once you have 100 fury you can gank with a pretty good CC. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:49 NeoIllusions wrote: How is that not representative? saint really likes to full clear with junglers asaply. The fact that Shyvana can do it in one go (with 21 off no less) without backing is a plus imo. Err, can't virtually every commonly picked jungler do this? The only common jungler that I can think of that has trouble doing that red is Gangplank, and it's questionable how compelling his jungle is after all the nerfs to begin with. I still think it comes down to how absurd she is in lane-being a no-resource champion is huge in lane and does nothing in jungle. As it stands, the only resourceless champion that has a compelling enough jungle kit to warrant playing in jungle over lane is Lee Sin, and even if Shyvana's kit is good for jungle, it's probably not Lee Sin level good. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:52 TheYango wrote: Err, can't virtually every commonly picked jungler do this? The only common jungler that I can think of that has trouble doing that red is Gangplank, and it's questionable how compelling his jungle is after all the nerfs to begin with. Not every jungler can do it that quickly I think. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:51 overt wrote: To be fair, he got really low and it's a normal game. He didn't have to deal with any sort of invasion or whatever either. She's probably better in lane but I think running her in jungle is really good. Fury doesn't decrease when you're out of dragon form so once you have 100 fury you can gank with a pretty good CC. In ranked you will get a far better pull so it's not an issue. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
That's surprising. source: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=5020842#post5020842 | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
But that run was considerably fast, by standard jungle speeds. dunno, saint make her look really good. W AOE just tears up minions. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:56 Cixah wrote: With full clear + back, you're ganking as a level 4 champion at 4:10 or 4:15 with boots. That's going to fuck with alot of people. Or even invading, Mummy and GP don't finish red till about then, go fuck them up. Mummy can do a full clear even with regrowth start and I don't even have good runes for him. (Arpen reds trolol) | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:56 Phrost wrote: There are more european players than NA? That's surprising. source: http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=5020842#post5020842 Maybe they meant eune+euw, afterall there was a reason for EU server split | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:57 NeoIllusions wrote: Every jungler gets low after a full run though. >_> But that run was considerably fast, by standard jungle speeds. dunno, saint make her look really good. W AOE just tears up minions. Most junglers that choose to do a full clear finish with high enough health to gank afterwards. | ||
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rredtooth
5460 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:55 Slayer91 wrote: In ranked you will get a far better pull so it's not an issue. in ranked you also have people venturing into your jungle to piss you off as well. | ||
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