I just had a sion tell me that you don't build mobility boots. Because it's on guides or something. Apparently he didn't understand that the whole point of sion is the blow up your wave super fast, pushing it, and then you get to run around ganking lanes. Nope, he builds sorc boots. I like the loci mentality a lot more. I'd rather laugh than be mad, except when people give away free wins.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 03 2011 19:58 GMT

#1064

you have your reasoning, he has his, just because everyone does something doesn't mean it's always the best way

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

November 03 2011 19:59 GMT

#1065

well, and I know this is gonna sound weird, but there are actually sometimes multiple viable options for how to build. it's kinda earthshattering to realize this, but did you know that some sions might be more successful with sorcs, while others might be more successful with BoM?

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

November 03 2011 19:59 GMT

#1066

On November 04 2011 04:53 travis wrote:
I really don't get armor for jungling I think it's weak and slow.

What's the alternative?

Craton

United States17233 Posts

November 03 2011 20:01 GMT

#1067

I use dodge on most of my junglers.

TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

November 03 2011 20:03 GMT

#1068

On November 04 2011 04:53 travis wrote:
I really don't get armor for jungling I think it's weak and slow.

Depends on what you are jungling with and how much help you get with the leash.
But with a good leash I could jungle with anything tbh.
Dodge runes for instance are shit on rammus because you want to get hit by the minions and mana regen never did it for me anyways so armor is the way to go on some I feel.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

November 03 2011 20:04 GMT

#1069

On November 04 2011 04:59 Seuss wrote:

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What's the alternative?

i guess armor would make sense on like rammus

i run AS yellows, AS quints, ArPen reds, mres/lvl blues

use this on all my junglers which mostly I play noc/udyr/sometimes ww

i also play rammus and yeah i should use armor on him :/ but i need another rune page! and they are spendy

Lorken

New Zealand804 Posts

November 03 2011 20:04 GMT

#1070

I'm kinda late to this but I also think the 4 bans per game isn't enough anymore now that we have almost 90 champions. Also the time given to think it through is hardly enough as well. There's been a few times while discussing who to ban with the team that I actually miss out on the ban (might be just me though)

Brambled

United States750 Posts

November 03 2011 20:05 GMT

#1071

I am enjoying new hero so far but I am still trying to perfect my jungle routes with her. With vamp scepter and small camps I have trouble killing last golem some reason.

But with cloth+pots I can steal wraiths and then do all my small camps and that works out wonderfully.

Haven't tested any blue starts yet.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

November 03 2011 20:07 GMT

#1072

I don't run as quints anymore, they're not really stats per slot efficient

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

November 03 2011 20:09 GMT

#1073

On November 04 2011 05:07 UniversalSnip wrote:
I don't run as quints anymore, they're not really stats per slot efficient

what? they're comparable to AD Quints in stats per slot.

Brees

Marshall Islands3404 Posts

November 03 2011 20:11 GMT

#1074

attack speed is rarely ever a useful stat, they cater to very specific junglers. Not many times as a melee are you just gonna sit there and go toe to toe with somebody. Thats why I dont tend to advocate attack speed on anyone except like warwick/phoenix udyr.

trollbone

France1905 Posts

November 03 2011 20:11 GMT

#1075

i think its enough because i think nowadays there is no extremely op champions, the game seems well balanced, a lot of viable picks. We shouldnt have more than 4 bans because there is 90 champs, i dont think this is a valid argument.

Deleted User 3420

24492 Posts

November 03 2011 20:13 GMT

#1076

how is AS rarely a useful stat on any jungler you get wriggles with~

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

November 03 2011 20:14 GMT

#1077

On November 04 2011 05:11 trollbone wrote:
i think its enough because i think nowadays there is no extremely op champions, the game seems well balanced, a lot of viable picks. We shouldnt have more than 4 bans because there is 90 champs, i dont think this is a valid argument.

wtf are you talking about?

until I have enough bans to ban:
Sion
Karthus
Garen
Riven
Shaco
Fiddle
Poppy
Yorrick
<newest champ here>

every game, it's not enough.

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

November 03 2011 20:20 GMT

#1078

You also need to consider that if there are 8 bans there are 8 champions you won't be able to play for a long time. People could for example ban out half the ad carries n shit like that.

TheKefka

Croatia11752 Posts

November 03 2011 20:21 GMT

#1079

On November 04 2011 05:14 Mogwai wrote:

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wtf are you talking about?

until I have enough bans to ban:
Sion
Karthus
Garen
Riven
Shaco
Fiddle
Poppy
Yorrick
<newest champ here>

every game, it's not enough.

It's funny because most of the OP champs aren't even on that list.WE NEED MORE BANS ZOMG:

trollbone

France1905 Posts

November 03 2011 20:21 GMT

#1080

basically you need armor on every jungler that transition into a tank :

Chogath, skarner, amumu, malphite, rammus, nunu, udyr, etc...

you need armor on every jungler that dont benefit from AS :

Fiddlestick, rammus, malphite, etc ..

And last for the champions that benefit from AS, you go armor yellow and AS red like :

skarner, ww, (chogath but i prefer arpen), nasus, noc etc ...