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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On November 04 2011 02:57 Two_DoWn wrote: They should switch the levels you get smite and flash at. Noobs need flash hella more than smite. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL whenever i play on my smurf i'm like F and then i'm like why am i running faster life sucks man | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Also, jungling is more PvP oriented than PvE compared to laning for me because I am spending much less timing killing minions/creeps than laners. I'm going to be going around the map exerting map control through ganking and placing wards in places that are too out of the way for laners. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
What does he lose to? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2011 03:55 jcarlsoniv wrote: Might be something I'll be trying out. I love Olaf, I just don't like how sketchy his jungling can be, especially cuz I'm personally very weak to counter jungling. What does he lose to? Olaf's jungle is fast as fuck and he's a monster at 1v1ing people--he's really not that vulnerable to counterjungling. There's just not enough farm in the jungle to get him the itemization he needs midgame. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On November 04 2011 03:58 TheYango wrote: Olaf's jungle is fast as fuck and he's a monster at 1v1ing people--he's really not that vulnerable to counterjungling. There's just not enough farm in the jungle to get him the itemization he needs midgame. I just feel like his jungle is only really fast when his health is lower, cuz of his passive. Which makes me really skeeved out when a big eye ball pops up on me. But I could definitely be doing it wrong. I'm not known to be a strong jungler in general. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:00 jcarlsoniv wrote: I just feel like his jungle is only really fast when his health is lower, cuz of his passive. Which makes me really skeeved out when a big eye ball pops up on me. But I could definitely be doing it wrong. I'm not known to be a strong jungler in general. Olaf's clear time is fast because Undertow does insane damage on almost zero cooldown. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:12 Wala.Revolution wrote: 1600 -> 1500 is not going to make a huge difference. It's still going to miss if you throw it like before. Actually after trying it yesterday I found it makes quite a difference. You don't have to lead your target by quite as insane an amount. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
Anyway I've played olaf top many many many times and I still do it, and still consider it pretty much strictly worse than nasus. Olaf is just way more fun. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On November 04 2011 03:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I didn't mean to say that like she's useless. I more meant that she isn't so blatantly overpowered that if she is good then it's going to take time for people to discover it like Irelia. I wasn't saying Shyv is useful or useless at all... that's dictated by numbers. I was saying that the design of her fury and her R are pretty meh and as a result maybe people don't actually like playing her all that much. OFC maybe it's the blue skin? On November 04 2011 03:25 TheYango wrote: Some questions about Shyvana's Q in Dragon form: 1) I know that it's confirmed that the Dragon Form version of her Q applies on-hit effects to all targets hit. How does this interact with Sheen, for which the proc is consumed? Does it apply to only one target, or does a Sheen proc on Dragon Form Q do the bonus damage to all the targets? You hit sheen on your primary target only. Which is why I don't like trinity force on her. Other fun facts: the first Q hit crits and can crit in an AoE like twitch ult. Or, you know, you counter-initiate a fight by shoving a tanky initiator like Galio/Amumu back into their team (at the same time putting you right on top of their squishies). Or you shove an anti-carry out of position. Well I guess that's a thought. I still wonder if jumping onto their squishies that great of an idea. As I said before they do get to attack you first more or less since ult damage doesn't actually count for that much, but if you cancel a galio ult it might be worth it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:18 phyvo wrote: Well I guess that's a thought. I still wonder if jumping onto their squishies that great of an idea. As I said before they do get to attack you first more or less since ult damage doesn't actually count for that much. The way I see it, Shyvana's single-target damage is not that good. Her main draw damage-wise is that in dragon form, she has a LOT of AoE damage. So your role feels less like an anti-carry, and more of a straight AoE damage dealer, that also happens to have a ton of innate survivability. | ||
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rainfable
United States171 Posts
Also useful for interrupting ulti channels in teamfights, since it knocks back. Multi-purpose ulti (: Wukong was pretty good even before the buff, and now he just spins to win. I don't like the jack in the box change though, feels like it's harder to make boxfarms for super burst now. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
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Wala.Revolution
7582 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:25 Voxae wrote: I don't like the jack in the box change though, feels like it's harder to make boxfarms for super burst now. I think that was the point. | ||
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