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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 04:14:49
November 03 2011 04:13 GMT
#881
Well first off, its a bad idea to get more than 1 dring AND a cata. Either stack or rush roa. 1 dring is fine if you find yourself unable to finish cata or something, but going both ways delays your big items.

As for what to build, when I play her I just stacked 2-3 rings then grabbed a deathcap, void, zhonyas castery shit. I know smash was a bigger fan of going for a fast abyssal.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 04:17:34
November 03 2011 04:17 GMT
#882
Yeah I was kinda winging it. When I used to play her I was more support hybrid than mage, so I just gotta figure this out. I like being really tanky on her, so I'll prolly throw in a Rylai's (cuz it's prolly my favorite caster item).
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#883
I prefer to build resists on her because your shield is BEAST with any ap whatsoever, and it scales with resists, not HP.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 03 2011 04:21 GMT
#884
On November 03 2011 11:32 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 11:24 overt wrote:
On November 03 2011 11:15 Shiv. wrote:
On another note, Doublelift made SUCH a valid point when saying just because stuff isn't played in tournaments, it does not mean it isn't viable. Release Talon / current WuKong / Shaco / Sion / Tryndamere a couple of weeks ago / KATAFRICKINRINA are some good examples in my opinion. I often feel pro LoL players have their game not quite as figured out as players of other games. World of Warcraft for example is theorycrafted up to the last item. People KNOW what is best. Same goes for DotA, people KNOW their stuff. I often feel like LoL pros disregard stuff too early. Xerath was frickin superstrong from the very beginning, yet a lot of people thought he sucked. First time HSGG played Talon, he was ranting about how he was one of the worst champs EVER. It's stuff like that that really makes me think.


The only bad thing about that point is that people are saying Xerath doesn't get played in tournaments because there haven't been any tournaments for Xerath yet. He's run or banned in lots of scrims between the pro teams.

Xerath is just one example, though. Think about release Irelia, Talon, stuff like that. It's pretty much the same. It took people MONTHS to figure out Irelia isn't utter garbage but actually fucking godtier. I'm just curious why people at the very highest level aren't able to grasp a champion's potential. Tryndamere would be a perfect example of that. Voyboy wiped SK with his Trynd, and he hasn't effectively been changed since Skarner patch.

Part of the problem is that a lot of champions are super-niche though. Kat's a great example, she's amazing as a last pick if the other team doesn't have many good ways to interrupt her ultimate, but since most team comps will have a few she's very rarely possible to be picked. And as a consequence very few top players have gotten good with her. A lot of champions are like that, powerful but easily countered (Master Yi vs Team with any CC at all) by basic compositions. And another bunch of champions don't fit the current metagame (Heimerdinger, Talon) so a team has to be different, and has to practice a different comp - like EG did with Heimer. But since most players practice solo-queue this doesn't happen often. I think that's the main problem, all the good teams are made up of people who mostly just play solo-queue rather than prepare strategies as a team - though thats starting to change (Epik with Heimer, TSM with crazy lane-swapping or triple wriggles).
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
November 03 2011 04:29 GMT
#885
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.
twitch.tv/cratonz
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 03 2011 04:31 GMT
#886
On November 03 2011 13:29 Craton wrote:
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.


Oh good. Would save me the trouble of tanking my elo from queueing with friends. And it IS solo queue after all. Never really understood why duo should be allowed.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2011 04:32 GMT
#887
On November 03 2011 13:29 Craton wrote:
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.


That'd be dumb.

Chauster is such a god damn beast. He's ringing for locodoco's Korean team. He played solo top Malphite against The Rain Man's Akali and raped him in lane. He's currently 4/0/5 as Malphite against TSM.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 03 2011 04:35 GMT
#888
On November 03 2011 13:32 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:29 Craton wrote:
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.


That'd be dumb.

Chauster is such a god damn beast. He's ringing for locodoco's Korean team. He played solo top Malphite against The Rain Man's Akali and raped him in lane. He's currently 4/0/5 as Malphite against TSM.


oh god, Rain Man must be fucking pissed, must watch.
Love him, but love his rage moreee.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 04:36:47
November 03 2011 04:36 GMT
#889
So does Malphite counter Akali top or is it just Chauster > Rain Man?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2011 04:37 GMT
#890
And TSM rage quits. Chauster too good.
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
November 03 2011 04:38 GMT
#891
On November 03 2011 13:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Smash I know you're the only high elo karma player. Where do you put her laning on the stupid good to stupid bad scale?


If you're gonna directly consult Mogwai about Karma at least direct him to my friend's Karma rabble rousing thread as we try to provoke a red to respond:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1441386
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 03 2011 04:39 GMT
#892
On November 03 2011 13:38 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Smash I know you're the only high elo karma player. Where do you put her laning on the stupid good to stupid bad scale?


If you're gonna directly consult Mogwai about Karma at least direct him to my friend's Karma rabble rousing thread as we try to provoke a red to respond:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1441386


unlike me I dont' think he's stupid enough to post on the riot forums
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
November 03 2011 04:42 GMT
#893
On November 03 2011 13:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:38 Seiuchi wrote:
On November 03 2011 13:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Smash I know you're the only high elo karma player. Where do you put her laning on the stupid good to stupid bad scale?


If you're gonna directly consult Mogwai about Karma at least direct him to my friend's Karma rabble rousing thread as we try to provoke a red to respond:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1441386


unlike me I dont' think he's stupid enough to post on the riot forums


He posted all the time about Pantheon even though Riot ignored his suggestions
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 03 2011 04:42 GMT
#894
On November 03 2011 13:42 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 03 2011 13:38 Seiuchi wrote:
On November 03 2011 13:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Smash I know you're the only high elo karma player. Where do you put her laning on the stupid good to stupid bad scale?


If you're gonna directly consult Mogwai about Karma at least direct him to my friend's Karma rabble rousing thread as we try to provoke a red to respond:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1441386


unlike me I dont' think he's stupid enough to post on the riot forums


He posted all the time about Pantheon even though Riot ignored his suggestions


I think you're beginning to understand...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 03 2011 04:42 GMT
#895
Ya Im 99% sure this is just a case of no one plays karma so everyone assumes she is UP. What she REALLY needs is the right solo top to pair with her. I know Smash has a raging hardon for a Singed/karma combo.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 03 2011 04:53 GMT
#896
On November 03 2011 13:32 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:29 Craton wrote:
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.


That'd be dumb.

Chauster is such a god damn beast. He's ringing for locodoco's Korean team. He played solo top Malphite against The Rain Man's Akali and raped him in lane. He's currently 4/0/5 as Malphite against TSM.

I think that's more rainman being bad than chauster being dominant
Translator:3
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 03 2011 04:55 GMT
#897
On November 03 2011 13:36 JBright wrote:
So does Malphite counter Akali top or is it just Chauster > Rain Man?


malphite beats almost any melee top
Brees on in
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 03 2011 04:55 GMT
#898
On November 03 2011 13:53 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:32 overt wrote:
On November 03 2011 13:29 Craton wrote:
Apparently Riot is strongly considering removing the ability to duo queue from solo 5v5.


That'd be dumb.

Chauster is such a god damn beast. He's ringing for locodoco's Korean team. He played solo top Malphite against The Rain Man's Akali and raped him in lane. He's currently 4/0/5 as Malphite against TSM.

I think that's more rainman being bad than chauster being dominant


Yeah, Chauster just straight up outplayed him in both games. It was still pretty awesome to watch though.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
November 03 2011 05:00 GMT
#899
Too many games played with gingerBrown today. I don't even want to play league of legends anymore.
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 03 2011 05:01 GMT
#900
On November 03 2011 13:55 Brees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 13:36 JBright wrote:
So does Malphite counter Akali top or is it just Chauster > Rain Man?


malphite beats almost any melee top


we couldn't kill each other before either oomed but skarner eventually got my tower around 12
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