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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 12 2011 19:45 GMT
#3201
they patched it to not include madreds because people were abusing it toplane to stay in lane 4ever
MBR maybe as a 6th item against a really tanky team as you mentioned, but unlikely. it costs so much anyway qq
Hey! Listen!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 12 2011 19:58 GMT
#3202
NA IEM Kiev Qualifiers going live!

Brackets for the event

Notably, a CLG v Dignitas clash set up for Round 4 in the top half, with TSM v multiple still-strong-but-not-CLG/Dignitas-level teams in the bottom half. (They have to face a combination of Goose, Curse, AbsoluteLegends, coL, unRestricted, etc.)

TSM currently streaming their game v Goose.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
November 12 2011 20:01 GMT
#3203
On November 13 2011 04:45 Navi wrote:
they patched it to not include madreds because people were abusing it toplane to stay in lane 4ever
MBR maybe as a 6th item against a really tanky team as you mentioned, but unlikely. it costs so much anyway qq


Yeah right now it goes:

Boots (Tabi if 3 AD and little to no CC, Merc treads for everything else)
Wits End
Negatron>FoN later
Chain Vest > Randuins
Phage>Trinity
No idea? MBR, Banshee's Veil if heavy AP, Thornmail if heavy AD, Aegis, SV
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
November 12 2011 20:15 GMT
#3204
Goose: Picks blue side
Bans alternated 1-1-1-1-1-1

TSM bans: Xerath/Rammus/Morgana
Goose bans: Graves/Kog'maw/Yorick

TSM: Zilean
Goose: Alistar Tristana
TSM: Nocturne Sona
Goose: Udyr Sion
TSM: Skarner Caitlyn
Goose: Riven
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
November 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#3205
Riot announced that the jungle would be adjusted to give enough XP to be able to function without extra XP - this is already live. It gives you lvl2 off Doublegolem or Blue but won´t give lvl 3 off Blue, Wolves, then Wraiths.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 12 2011 20:35 GMT
#3206
On November 13 2011 04:58 MoonBear wrote:
NA IEM Kiev Qualifiers going live!

Brackets for the event

Notably, a CLG v Dignitas clash set up for Round 4 in the top half, with TSM v multiple still-strong-but-not-CLG/Dignitas-level teams in the bottom half. (They have to face a combination of Goose, Curse, AbsoluteLegends, coL, unRestricted, etc.)

TSM currently streaming their game v Goose.

Stream link plox?
It's your boy Guzma!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 12 2011 20:35 GMT
#3207
with changes looming on Katarina and MF, should i buy the 625 RP bundle? its essentially 200 RP for each of those champs (even though riot probably purposely chose the champs that are obviously under-performing than their peers) Xin sucks
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 12 2011 20:37 GMT
#3208
On November 13 2011 05:35 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 04:58 MoonBear wrote:
NA IEM Kiev Qualifiers going live!

Brackets for the event

Notably, a CLG v Dignitas clash set up for Round 4 in the top half, with TSM v multiple still-strong-but-not-CLG/Dignitas-level teams in the bottom half. (They have to face a combination of Goose, Curse, AbsoluteLegends, coL, unRestricted, etc.)

TSM currently streaming their game v Goose.

Stream link plox?

http://clgaming.net/live/725-chaox

Chaox's PoV.

TSM just aced Goose at Dragon, with Cait picking up most of the kills. Trist been bullied bot lane so hard as well.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
byFd
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany620 Posts
November 12 2011 20:43 GMT
#3209
all of TSM streaming their respective PoV btw, but i thinkt hey have different delays on the streams^^
(>°_°)>
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 12 2011 20:45 GMT
#3210
Rainman Skarner very good. Anyone know his rune setup?
It's your boy Guzma!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 20:52:34
November 12 2011 20:51 GMT
#3211
http://clgaming.net/live/7-clg-bigfatjiji
v8 vs clg

Featuring:
solotopolaf
solomidxerath
junglerammus
and others
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 20:58:34
November 12 2011 20:57 GMT
#3212
On November 13 2011 05:45 Requizen wrote:
Rainman Skarner very good. Anyone know his rune setup?

flat armor yellows, flat mp5 blues, health regen/5 quints and magic pen reds

Edit:
he has a 2nd page also that he switches out the mp5 blues for flat mr blues.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 21:01:54
November 12 2011 21:00 GMT
#3213
On November 13 2011 03:51 rigwarl wrote:
The smite mastery will be equivalent to roughly 1gp10 (since you won't use smite on CD). Probably won't be worth it unless you're going in the def tree anyway

You say that like 9 Defense won't be required for junglers when Bladed Armor is really good for every jungler. Or that 1gp10 for 1 mastery point doesn't beat the vast majority of masteries on gold value (it does).

On November 13 2011 05:29 Unentschieden wrote:
Riot announced that the jungle would be adjusted to give enough XP to be able to function without extra XP - this is already live. It gives you lvl2 off Doublegolem or Blue but won´t give lvl 3 off Blue, Wolves, then Wraiths.

2 off minis/blue is a fix that they already put live where you weren't leveling when you had 280/280 on you XP bar.

They also said they're upscaling the XP value of jungle monsters in addition to that.
Moderator
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 12 2011 21:10 GMT
#3214
On November 13 2011 04:29 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 04:20 sylverfyre wrote:
On November 13 2011 04:10 Shiv. wrote:
People, please tell me I'm not becoming insane and the people here arguing Sion is a threat late game are wrong.

So he should have said "Very strong mid-game threat" not late-game threat when he did the patch preview. Sion is a fucking huge threat early-midgame, and he doesn't drop off the way say, leblanc does, because late-game he'll still have a million health from CS a rather painful 1-2 combo on not-long CD, and a lichbane to back it up.

This is true, but I just don't see him up there with, say, Brand.

Then why is Sion a top pick/ban at 2k elo and Brand isn't? Sion's roam power is stronger, due to having an unconditional, undodgeable stun. Brand has a stun that needs to be combo'd AND skillshotted, allowing possibility of failure due to error or enemy skill) and his AP ratios are terrifying (2.0 on a 2 hit combo which is nigh-unavoidable, vs 1.8 on a 3-hit combo) and his damage scales up very fast, giving him an extremely strong point from level 9-13 when champs get their primary skills maxed. Obviously, brand scales better into late-game very well as his 8% health burn damage continues to scale, as well as having a third nuke to continue leveling up after Sion begins to plateau. The sion player wants to already have secured an advantage, by this point (Thus the attractiveness of mobility boots and roaming)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 12 2011 21:10 GMT
#3215
On November 12 2011 21:44 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 21:41 Shiv. wrote:
On November 12 2011 19:43 wei2coolman wrote:
I like the minor change to Kat, should be awesome, considering I just got her. The Sona change was pretty necessary imo. Her poke is so strong early game, it's probably the best from level 1-6. (Also, try out AD-Sona (w/ triforce) it's pretty fun).

Hmm, no nerf to Talon or Akali? so silly, they need to hurry up and find a fix. Hopefully after tournaments are done, they'll start putting more nerf/buffs on characters.

Between Akali and Talon (who got slightly adjusted last patch by the way), I think it really should be Akali getting toned down a bit. But then again, she is sort of high risk high reward - counter pick her ass and see her doing literally nothing later in the game.

Concerning Kat, I really don't know what they were thinking. If Shunpo had a minor silence on it, that change would be awesome for the laning phase, considering you could BB->Shunpo and run before they can trade with you. That being said, Kat is already on of the weakest laners in the game and, in my opinion, NEEDS to W-E instead of W-Q in order to trade effectively, if she can trade at all. Later in the game, you will almost always want to use W for your E, simply because there's no reason not to. If there is a Soraka on the enemy team, you just straight up kill her and if she wastes her heal on herself, well, there you go, their AD carry is helpless for the next 18 seconds. It's nice for positioning sometimes I guess, but if they decide tweaking Kat, why in such a non-mattering fashion?

Also: Sion apparently is a strong late game champion. There's just no way to stop him from bursting your team. Real Morello?

When I heard this I facepalmed so much.

You won't see an Akali nerf anytime soon btw, Riot has said she doesnt need nerfing thus the reasoning why shes not getting any.

Its gonna take a while for me to get used to these weird mastery icons.

I'm not worried all that much about sion change. I prefer AD Sion, mostly because I like jungling with him.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#3216
Overheard in 5HITCOMBO's "Why I'm 1800 and how to get there" thread:

"so 5hitcombo looks like you need to carry harder, 1400 elo too hard for plat lol."
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#3217
Clg is destroying V8
Go go Alliance.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 12 2011 21:15 GMT
#3218
Dignitas lost against unknown players.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 21:20:34
November 12 2011 21:17 GMT
#3219
On November 13 2011 06:15 -Zoda- wrote:
Dignitas lost against unknown players.


Scarra said that they were playing a 4v5 because jatt had super high ping so not too surprising.
Go go Alliance.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 21:24:38
November 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#3220
On November 13 2011 06:15 -Zoda- wrote:
Dignitas lost against unknown players.

theres a loser bracket, they not out.

also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:

O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff.
Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD.
Serious tournament is serious.
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