On November 13 2011 06:56 Demonace34 wrote: That TSM game was horribly one sided. Skarner wasn't doing so well against Udyr though, you could hear The Rain Man getting annoying with his lane.
yea, udyr didn't get ganked before he built wriggles so he was invincible lol. it was pretty even in CS until rain man left lane and lost tower.
Considering that 3~ months ago they scrimmed col a lot and had relatively close games, I think that TSM is wayyyy better than they were during Gamescom in Germany.
EDIT: Also, whenever I watch Rain Man's stream when he's playing solo queue, he's always like "Teemo destroys all melee AD in lane. Udyr, Renekton, and Nasus are useless against him." I wish TSM would let him play teemo again tr0l0l0l0l0l0l. Not even he is arguing for it though, Riot buff teemo plz .
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote: theres a loser bracket, they not out.
also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:
O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff. Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD. Serious tournament is serious.
it is a pretty serious tournament
Calling it a scrim makes me think there will be more qualifiers TSM can play in. its named qualifier #1 too.
Or mb they just think its a walk through the park for them.
Yeah there's a second qualifiers. There's four teams (I think?) that go to Kiev from North America so I'm assuming the two finalists from both qualifiers will be going.
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote: theres a loser bracket, they not out.
also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:
O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff. Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD. Serious tournament is serious.
it is a pretty serious tournament
Calling it a scrim makes me think there will be more qualifiers TSM can play in. its named qualifier #1 too.
Or mb they just think its a walk through the park for them.
Yeah there's a second qualifiers. There's four teams (I think?) that go to Kiev from North America so I'm assuming the two finalists from both qualifiers will be going.
Top 4 teams from each qualifier go play in another double elim tournamanet on Dec 3. Top 3 from the NA finals tournament get to go to Kiev on their own money but they get $2000 guaranteed for getting there. Not sure if it's worth it for some of the smaller teams since travel can be pretty expensive to the Ukraine. Source
So he should have said "Very strong mid-game threat" not late-game threat when he did the patch preview. Sion is a fucking huge threat early-midgame, and he doesn't drop off the way say, leblanc does, because late-game he'll still have a million health from CS a rather painful 1-2 combo on not-long CD, and a lichbane to back it up.
This is true, but I just don't see him up there with, say, Brand.
Then why is Sion a top pick/ban at 2k elo and Brand isn't? Sion's roam power is stronger, due to having an unconditional, undodgeable stun. Brand has a stun that needs to be combo'd AND skillshotted, allowing possibility of failure due to error or enemy skill) and his AP ratios are terrifying (2.0 on a 2 hit combo which is nigh-unavoidable, vs 1.8 on a 3-hit combo) and his damage scales up very fast, giving him an extremely strong point from level 9-13 when champs get their primary skills maxed. Obviously, brand scales better into late-game very well as his 8% health burn damage continues to scale, as well as having a third nuke to continue leveling up after Sion begins to plateau. The sion player wants to already have secured an advantage, by this point (Thus the attractiveness of mobility boots and roaming)
Because he stomps uncoordinated teams with ease. Then, how is his combo ''nigh-unavoidable'' and why do you even argue with me when you agree with my main point, which was Sion sucks balls late game while Brand doesn't.
Edit: sorry, I come across as a dick here, I've been arguing with people about this a lot lately and I'm getting tired of it. All I was saying that I don't see how Sion's lategame is even closely as good as most other AP's lategame is. He is a HELL of a champion and I never said anything contrary, but he, in comparison to most other APs, flat out sucks late game.
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