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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 12 2011 21:34 GMT
#3221
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 06:15 -Zoda- wrote:
Dignitas lost against unknown players.

theres a loser bracket, they not out.

also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:

O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff.
Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD.
Serious tournament is serious.


it is a pretty serious tournament
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
November 12 2011 21:38 GMT
#3222
On November 13 2011 06:34 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote:
theres a loser bracket, they not out.

also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:

O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff.
Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD.
Serious tournament is serious.


it is a pretty serious tournament

Calling it a scrim makes me think there will be more qualifiers TSM can play in. its named qualifier #1 too.

Or mb they just think its a walk through the park for them.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 12 2011 21:42 GMT
#3223
It's just an ego thing. If anything, TSM has a lot to prove atm.

Chaox on Graves is really silly though.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
November 12 2011 21:52 GMT
#3224
coL getting destroyed by TSM. They've been playing scared all game.
Go go Alliance.
Innuendo
Profile Joined June 2007
Belgium616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 22:13:22
November 12 2011 21:55 GMT
#3225
CLG vs RFLX kiev qualifiers
bans:
gangplank - cho'gath
rumble - rammus
zilean - xerath

picks:
graves - sona & nocturne
soraka & udyr - kennen & kog'maw
kassadin & tryndamere - swain
Bisu fan, may the revolutionist return
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 12 2011 21:55 GMT
#3226
Is coL considered a good team? If so that was not a good showing vs TSM.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 12 2011 21:56 GMT
#3227
On November 13 2011 06:55 BlackMagister wrote:
Is coL considered a good team? If so that was not a good showing vs TSM.


coL is bottom of B tier.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
November 12 2011 21:56 GMT
#3228
That TSM game was horribly one sided. Skarner wasn't doing so well against Udyr though, you could hear The Rain Man getting annoying with his lane.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 12 2011 21:58 GMT
#3229
Chaox is fucking hilarious. Dude always sounds stoned. Him and Reginald together is pretty imba funny.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 22:05:22
November 12 2011 22:01 GMT
#3230
On November 13 2011 06:56 Demonace34 wrote:
That TSM game was horribly one sided. Skarner wasn't doing so well against Udyr though, you could hear The Rain Man getting annoying with his lane.


yea, udyr didn't get ganked before he built wriggles so he was invincible lol.
it was pretty even in CS until rain man left lane and lost tower.

Considering that 3~ months ago they scrimmed col a lot and had relatively close games, I think that TSM is wayyyy better than they were during Gamescom in Germany.

EDIT: Also, whenever I watch Rain Man's stream when he's playing solo queue, he's always like "Teemo destroys all melee AD in lane. Udyr, Renekton, and Nasus are useless against him." I wish TSM would let him play teemo again tr0l0l0l0l0l0l. Not even he is arguing for it though, Riot buff teemo plz .
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 12 2011 22:05 GMT
#3231
Chaox has an odd obsession with HSGG lol. Chaox thinking about casting CLG's scrim.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
November 12 2011 22:06 GMT
#3232
On November 13 2011 07:05 BlackMagister wrote:
Chaox has an odd obsession with HSGG lol. Chaox thinking about casting CLG's scrim.


I know it's been linked before, but the origin of the Chaox + HSGG bromance

BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 22:26:55
November 12 2011 22:10 GMT
#3233
Yeah I know and it's getting worse with how he's talking about HSGG now lol.
Freaking out over someone saying "you can almost see HS's nipples" T_T

CLG probably won their scrim, enemy jungler dc and has been for a few minutes and it's still early game.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 12 2011 22:52 GMT
#3234
On November 13 2011 06:38 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 06:34 taLbuk wrote:
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote:
theres a loser bracket, they not out.

also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:

O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff.
Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD.
Serious tournament is serious.


it is a pretty serious tournament

Calling it a scrim makes me think there will be more qualifiers TSM can play in. its named qualifier #1 too.

Or mb they just think its a walk through the park for them.


Yeah there's a second qualifiers. There's four teams (I think?) that go to Kiev from North America so I'm assuming the two finalists from both qualifiers will be going.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
November 12 2011 22:59 GMT
#3235
On November 13 2011 07:52 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 06:38 snow2.0 wrote:
On November 13 2011 06:34 taLbuk wrote:
On November 13 2011 06:22 snow2.0 wrote:
theres a loser bracket, they not out.

also, i just checked dignitas streams (jatt and voyboy linked on their site, twitch.tv) and they're not streaming their games :sadface:

O well, lets watch Regi and Hotshot kill stuff.
Regi just said they're "scrimming" for the next 7 hours xD.
Serious tournament is serious.


it is a pretty serious tournament

Calling it a scrim makes me think there will be more qualifiers TSM can play in. its named qualifier #1 too.

Or mb they just think its a walk through the park for them.


Yeah there's a second qualifiers. There's four teams (I think?) that go to Kiev from North America so I'm assuming the two finalists from both qualifiers will be going.


Top 4 teams from each qualifier go play in another double elim tournamanet on Dec 3. Top 3 from the NA finals tournament get to go to Kiev on their own money but they get $2000 guaranteed for getting there. Not sure if it's worth it for some of the smaller teams since travel can be pretty expensive to the Ukraine. Source
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 23:06:40
November 12 2011 23:02 GMT
#3236
On November 13 2011 06:10 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 04:29 Shiv. wrote:
On November 13 2011 04:20 sylverfyre wrote:
On November 13 2011 04:10 Shiv. wrote:
People, please tell me I'm not becoming insane and the people here arguing Sion is a threat late game are wrong.

So he should have said "Very strong mid-game threat" not late-game threat when he did the patch preview. Sion is a fucking huge threat early-midgame, and he doesn't drop off the way say, leblanc does, because late-game he'll still have a million health from CS a rather painful 1-2 combo on not-long CD, and a lichbane to back it up.

This is true, but I just don't see him up there with, say, Brand.

Then why is Sion a top pick/ban at 2k elo and Brand isn't? Sion's roam power is stronger, due to having an unconditional, undodgeable stun. Brand has a stun that needs to be combo'd AND skillshotted, allowing possibility of failure due to error or enemy skill) and his AP ratios are terrifying (2.0 on a 2 hit combo which is nigh-unavoidable, vs 1.8 on a 3-hit combo) and his damage scales up very fast, giving him an extremely strong point from level 9-13 when champs get their primary skills maxed. Obviously, brand scales better into late-game very well as his 8% health burn damage continues to scale, as well as having a third nuke to continue leveling up after Sion begins to plateau. The sion player wants to already have secured an advantage, by this point (Thus the attractiveness of mobility boots and roaming)

Because he stomps uncoordinated teams with ease. Then, how is his combo ''nigh-unavoidable'' and why do you even argue with me when you agree with my main point, which was Sion sucks balls late game while Brand doesn't.

Edit: sorry, I come across as a dick here, I've been arguing with people about this a lot lately and I'm getting tired of it. All I was saying that I don't see how Sion's lategame is even closely as good as most other AP's lategame is. He is a HELL of a champion and I never said anything contrary, but he, in comparison to most other APs, flat out sucks late game.
currently rooting for myself.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 12 2011 23:08 GMT
#3237
I don't understand soloqueue.

2 weeks ago I am 1200
End of last week, my ELO crashes down to 1050
Now i am back at 1200
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
November 12 2011 23:12 GMT
#3238
TSM vs UNR?
graves,sona, noc yoric cass vs leesin soraka cait xerath udyr
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
November 12 2011 23:14 GMT
#3239
crs lost to valkrin's team

lollllllllllllll
2035
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 12 2011 23:14 GMT
#3240
Yorick and Graves, zzz.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
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