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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 19:26:36
March 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#10301
You're never going to crit - volley anyone unless they're really bad.\
edit: Unless you're soloing top and they facecheck, lolz.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 19:47:32
March 23 2011 19:46 GMT
#10302
On March 23 2011 09:59 emucxg wrote:

NA>EU>CN.... Lack of teamwork(communication) is why Chinese can never be better than NA players imho, just like any sport, chinese are suck at them... just like soccer


Oh boy, the Chinese suck at team based games based off someone's experience playing with publics!
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
March 23 2011 19:53 GMT
#10303
On March 24 2011 04:02 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
On March 23 2011 13:33 HazMat wrote:
you can leash and get back without missing a last hit mid....
Dunno how you would zone someone though, they MIGHT get zoned out of 1 cs just to stay safe. As for Volley, there's no way you'll volley someone at lvl 1 unless you're trying to push your lane and even then, volley won't hit them unless they're really unlucky/bad.


Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups. For ashe, you can block routes to creep lane by just getting there faster and keep them out of range until their second creep wave comes.

How exactly do you get lane control though. Like you get to lane before a creep dies anyways. If you just stay out of Ashe's range until 1 of your creeps is about to die you can't really get hurt...
Also, if the other team is top then their solotop won't be able to leash anyways.

Though I feel like both lane should help out, it's a huge speed boost for the jungler and can save them from having to use a potion.


Ashe can save crit until second creep wave comes and not use it. If ashe got a crit off on a creep while you didn't get anything off, that means my wave is pushing faster. If I zone you out while using a trick to get your creeps to push faster, while avoiding ranged creep dmg every time they retarget, then your lane is pushing mine, while I have crit volley to threaten you with until second wave comes. That means you miss all creeps until second wave. Plus, you miss more last hits since your minions kill mine faster than mine kill yours. After that point, I can choose to equalize wave with crit and volley, equalize with just autos, or just let it be pushed.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 23 2011 19:58 GMT
#10304
So do you both stalemate mid not farming or something. Never seen this done but interesting..
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 23 2011 20:11 GMT
#10305
oh so they changed move quick to be awesome, and i didnt even notice
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
March 23 2011 21:04 GMT
#10306
1) It's impossible to get the enemy wave to push faster
2) If you try to zone them past your creeps, you won't win the trade against most heroes since you have to run after Crit + Volley due to creep aggro, while they can hit you twice + a spell + creep damage. Oh and you just made your creeps push because you did that.
3) You are asking to die to from a Roamer/Shaco
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#10307
But, Yiruru, think of all the theorycrafting you're ruininggggggg.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 22:04:12
March 23 2011 21:29 GMT
#10308
On March 24 2011 06:04 Yiruru wrote:
1) It's impossible to get the enemy wave to push faster
2) If you try to zone them past your creeps, you won't win the trade against most heroes since you have to run after Crit + Volley due to creep aggro, while they can hit you twice + a spell + creep damage. Oh and you just made your creeps push because you did that.
3) You are asking to die to from a Roamer/Shaco


1) You can get your first enemy wave to push slightly faster.
2)There are several ways not to draw creep aggro. Just volley without hitting creeps. If you attack them out of ranged minion range, then you won't draw their aggro. There's also the ability to just volley and b. If you have boots, and enemy doesn't, then it is possible to get potshots off due to just ms bonus.
3) This is only until second creep wave like stated before, so it's brief for that small adv.

The net adv of this is you get off your usually unable to dmg volley or crit off, or like one creep. But it's an adv.

Second adv to getting to lane faster. You can push wave. Getting off that 5 seconds of pushing in comparison to your opponent with certain champs, means your opponent can't do anything and is forced to play the passive game. If you push and have more creeps on your side, enemy can't directly engage you, making slightly weaker lanes able to close that adv. Makes you more vulnerable to ganks, but you gain cs adv and lane control.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
March 23 2011 22:45 GMT
#10309
Just volley without hitting creeps.
Praye tell, good sire, explain yonder technique of withholding ye olde arrowes.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:15:20
March 23 2011 23:12 GMT
#10310
Don't know if Caller is unbanned yet but he should know that Frozen Mallet is the new awesome Mordekaiser item. Always slow always kill huehuehuehue

EDIT: Thread of the day on LoL forums http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=603375

He wants cait's ult to crit like parrrley. IE Cait ult crit would be the most epic thing ever.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#10311
On March 24 2011 07:45 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Just volley without hitting creeps.
Praye tell, good sire, explain yonder technique of withholding ye olde arrowes.

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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
March 23 2011 23:28 GMT
#10312
On March 24 2011 04:46 GARO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 09:59 emucxg wrote:

NA>EU>CN.... Lack of teamwork(communication) is why Chinese can never be better than NA players imho, just like any sport, chinese are suck at them... just like soccer


Oh boy, the Chinese suck at team based games based off someone's experience playing with publics!

He's just talking about the Chinese LoL players... not the Chinese Dota players >_<
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 23 2011 23:56 GMT
#10313
IE cait's ult crit would be ridic
just use at beginning of fight to kill their ranged carry roflmao
continue as planned
Hey! Listen!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
March 24 2011 00:02 GMT
#10314
On March 24 2011 08:56 Navi wrote:
IE cait's ult crit would be ridic
just use at beginning of fight to kill their ranged carry roflmao
continue as planned

harras enemy with ulti, 2 gud
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 24 2011 00:10 GMT
#10315
Actually it wouldn't be anything amazing. Cait would just get long-ranged garen's ulti. With 1:10000 missing health:damage ratio
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 24 2011 00:17 GMT
#10316
trololol
no but seriously if garen was any smart, he would pick up his little sis and spin while she ults
like in that comic
2 gud
Hey! Listen!
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
March 24 2011 00:17 GMT
#10317
With 3 blades and IE cait's ult would crit for 2275. I'm down for some RNG bring it on Riot i dare you.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 24 2011 00:20 GMT
#10318
Gaurdsman Bob playing dps jungle karma. wriggles -> wits end -> triforce. trollololol
I love that man.

And cait's passive with crit + IE is retarded lol. I've crit for like 1800 one time and was like wtffff.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 24 2011 00:20 GMT
#10319
It should be 50-50. It either crits and kills or does nothing.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 24 2011 01:11 GMT
#10320
WTF someone on jiji's team says Irelia has the worst joke and taunt in the game I love how she is playing with her blades in both, especially in taunt.

Still best joke/taunt belongs to Alistar IMO
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