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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
March 23 2011 04:50 GMT
#10261
LOL at Chinese LoL, you'd think they'd try to make it more appealing than DotA, which is still pretty huge there, but without a clan system I can't see it getting competitive at all (also that business model is super troll, but standard for asian mmo's).
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
March 23 2011 04:54 GMT
#10262
On March 23 2011 13:30 FR4CT4L wrote:
The Blind Monk art spotlight is out



Might not be april fools? Still urf is hanging out there so...

[image loading]

User was warned for this post
FADC
JALbert
Profile Joined March 2011
United States484 Posts
March 23 2011 05:07 GMT
#10263
On March 23 2011 13:50 Flakes wrote:
LOL at Chinese LoL, you'd think they'd try to make it more appealing than DotA, which is still pretty huge there, but without a clan system I can't see it getting competitive at all (also that business model is super troll, but standard for asian mmo's).


Keep in mind that Riot's partner in China (Well, now Riot's owners) run China's IM service. Everyone uses QQ. If they push LoL hard (and I can't imagine they wouldn't) it's gonna get a LOT of people playing in China. It's already reasonably popular here and they are in closed beta/people play on US.
Stealing Nashor Podcast - http://stealingnashor.libsyn.com | Stupid build enthusiast
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 23 2011 05:32 GMT
#10264
On March 23 2011 13:33 HazMat wrote:
you can leash and get back without missing a last hit mid....
Dunno how you would zone someone though, they MIGHT get zoned out of 1 cs just to stay safe. As for Volley, there's no way you'll volley someone at lvl 1 unless you're trying to push your lane and even then, volley won't hit them unless they're really unlucky/bad.


It's not that I'm not missing cs mid, it's that Malphite who was top has nothing to lose as well, assuming the two conditions I say earlier.
Stuck.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 10:58:18
March 23 2011 08:36 GMT
#10265
What about this Maokai build:

9/0/21, caster setup with (optional) HP quints and mres blues. Ignite/Ghost summoners. Open Doran's ring, then go 2 more Doran's Rings and sorc boots with EWEQER into R > E > W > Q skillbuild. Next go Abyssal Scepter into pure tanking items (Sunfire/FoN etc).

I'm currently able to kill at levels 4-7 in one combo from roughly 60-75% life and it transitions into a great midgame as well. Still unsure about sorc boots (Abyssal + runes should be enough to penetrate 0 mres people), but the build looks pretty solid. With 1:1 AP ratio on E and great base damage (and the fact that all 4 of his skills are nukes) early-mid game damage is very very good. Opinions?

Also, Maokai opens up very interesting wraithjack opportunities:

Without any AP, 3 saplings will immediately do 240 damage in the wraith AoE, killing the three lesser wraiths (impossible to do anything to prevent this other than tank the saplings, but if they do, you get free damage to just walk in and take those wraiths by force) and leaving the greater one at 110 HP. With Doran's Ring and AP quints you will do 330 damage which leaves the larger one at 20 HP. If you start with Amp tome instead, you only need 2 extra AP from runes (or maybe Fervor) to instakill the whole camp.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 23 2011 10:48 GMT
#10266
I build something really along those lines, except htat i build dorans shield into catalyst sorc boots and then decide how AP heavy I can go (Abyssal/Rod/Deathcap is the 3 i choose between).

Also after E, which one of Q / W maxed is situational, Q is when youre opponents are mainly melee, because Q is on a much shorter CD than W so you will be disrupting their carries when they charge in you. W is better if you are a carry chaser.
Thats my take on it atlesat

When you combo you W in, throw your E at your target, then Q, then R to survive / uber burst if they dnt run away, R is your coup de grace. Maokai is so fun because people dont know how high his burst is.

Though stacking doran rings is something I have to try out, it deffinitly sounds like something I could make use off as a variation..

Remember if you wanna build maokai as pure tank, you ignore the E outside of 1 point at lvl 1. Q/W maxed first.

E at lvl 1 is essential in that you can help your jungler soo much,
In the woods, there lurks..
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
March 23 2011 11:04 GMT
#10267
Dorans Rings on him work fine because they give him more life (and better heal consequentially), more AP for the 1:1 saplings and mana regen which he really really needs. I guess a no-E Maokai won't need them because saplings eat a bajillion mana and his other spells don't.

Btw, just realized that his saplings last 35 seconds and the CD for 3 saplings is 36 seconds. So with a moderate amount of CDR you will be able to stack 4 saplings with good timings which is going to kill a wraith camp without any AP.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 11:38:06
March 23 2011 11:37 GMT
#10268
Lee Sin is so ugly LOLOLOL

An asian monk who looks like a german, with a stupid pony tail
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 11:46:09
March 23 2011 11:44 GMT
#10269
They should make Lee Sin immune to Nocturne's R. I mean, he's already blind, so what can a little darkness do? Unless it's a spooky magical darkness. I need to actually check his skill description. Nope skill description just says "reduces sight range".
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 23 2011 11:54 GMT
#10270
Aside from the less than badass look that lee-sin has, the water falling on him looks pretty awesome.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 23 2011 12:25 GMT
#10271
On March 23 2011 20:44 Nikon wrote:
They should make Lee Sin immune to Nocturne's R. I mean, he's already blind, so what can a little darkness do? Unless it's a spooky magical darkness. I need to actually check his skill description. Nope skill description just says "reduces sight range".

But it's the summoner's sight range since you can see your allies on the minimap. You don't actually see what your champion sees ever.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
March 23 2011 12:38 GMT
#10272
Hmm, you're probably right. Immune to Teemo's blinding dart at least then? Can you imagine the outrage if that actually is his passive - immune to Teemo's dart lmao.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 23 2011 12:41 GMT
#10273
Cassiopeia's ult should always slow him only.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
March 23 2011 13:00 GMT
#10274
He can't be stunned by sion's stare either
washed
LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
March 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#10275
On March 23 2011 13:28 Wala.Revolution wrote:
CSheep refers to me.

Here's what I thought. I assumed that if you leash as top, you can a) get back to lane in time and b) you can leash it so blue aggros to jungler instead of gaining hp back.

Assuming those two are correct, I see no reason for top to not leash it. It was Malphite.

@Hazmat, then you zone them out of a couple cs and possibly even exp. If you can't, continue on.

Tested out leashing for top, and if you walk top from river you don't miss cs. I think if you walk the long way (if that makes blue re-aggro correctly) you may miss one or two.

It's not that I'm not missing cs mid, it's that Malphite who was top has nothing to lose as well, assuming the two conditions I say earlier.

If Blue regains health it's the jungler's fault for standing beyond leash range when Blue reaches its max distance from spawn. Which lane leashes it from what angle with what ability is irrelevant.

More importantly, having 2-3 people help with leashing and hitting blue a few times makes jungling much safer. The question to ask is not whether top or mid should leash Blue but why they aren't both there, assuming you're playing on blue side. On purple side the top lane has a long enough run time that they probably shouldn't help the jungler at Blue and should instead cover their wraiths for a few moments before going to lane.

It's also possible to increase the benefit of leashing with stuns/disables and repositioning abilities. Alistar's knockup/headbutt, Poppy's wall slam, Cho'Gath's knockup, and other abilities can significantly increase the number of hits the jungler gets in before Blue leashes. In this scenario typically 1 person will leash and another will disable while the jungler autos.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 23 2011 13:24 GMT
#10276
Wait...
I'm still in Taiwan, but I still play in the NA servers...
*confused*
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 14:00:23
March 23 2011 14:00 GMT
#10277
On March 23 2011 22:24 Abenson wrote:
Wait...
I'm still in Taiwan, but I still play in the NA servers...
*confused*

KK so I will report you to Riot to fix your problem!
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
March 23 2011 14:13 GMT
#10278
On March 23 2011 20:37 emucxg wrote:
Lee Sin is so ugly LOLOLOL

An asian monk who looks like a german, with a stupid pony tail

Leaguecraft MAY fix that.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 23 2011 14:35 GMT
#10279
On March 23 2011 22:00 Vlanitak wrote:
He can't be stunned by sion's stare either


I'm pretty sure sion's stare is a creepy feeling thing not necessarily that staring into his eyes makes you afraid. He can stun you from behind anyway
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 16:01:40
March 23 2011 14:37 GMT
#10280
On March 23 2011 13:33 HazMat wrote:
you can leash and get back without missing a last hit mid....
Dunno how you would zone someone though, they MIGHT get zoned out of 1 cs just to stay safe. As for Volley, there's no way you'll volley someone at lvl 1 unless you're trying to push your lane and even then, volley won't hit them unless they're really unlucky/bad.


Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups. For ashe, you can block routes to creep lane by just getting there faster and keep them out of range until their second creep wave comes.
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