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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 23 2011 14:41 GMT
#10281
Nidalee #1 leash. Bushwhack OP.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 23 2011 14:51 GMT
#10282
On March 23 2011 23:41 Mogwai wrote:
Nidalee #1 leash. Bushwhack OP.

Maokai #1 cute-leash. Saplings make me jizz my pants *weeeeeeeee*
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 23 2011 15:22 GMT
#10283
This one maokai stacked herpdederp dudes on opposing wraiths to leash when I was wraithjacking this one time and it stole the little wraiths D=
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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
March 23 2011 15:25 GMT
#10284
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 13:33 HazMat wrote:
you can leash and get back without missing a last hit mid....
Dunno how you would zone someone though, they MIGHT get zoned out of 1 cs just to stay safe. As for Volley, there's no way you'll volley someone at lvl 1 unless you're trying to push your lane and even then, volley won't hit them unless they're really unlucky/bad.


Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups.


Mere mortals like myself though can leash anything they want whenever they want and still win. Or lose, as the case may be.
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Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
March 23 2011 15:27 GMT
#10285
Hello,
I am a fairly new LoL player and have a question:
I like to play vlad when I play carry and I always let the other players in my team get the golem buff if we take it.
Is it okay to get the golem buff yourself even if you only get the cdr?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 23 2011 15:29 GMT
#10286
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups.

If you're going to consider something like that, then you should also note that getting help to do golem quickly and having to kill it slowly by yourself can mean the difference between having your wraiths stolen, and being able to get there in time to catch the guy trying to steal it. "Pretty huge in certain matchups."
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 23 2011 15:41 GMT
#10287
On March 24 2011 00:27 Xedat wrote:
Hello,
I am a fairly new LoL player and have a question:
I like to play vlad when I play carry and I always let the other players in my team get the golem buff if we take it.
Is it okay to get the golem buff yourself even if you only get the cdr?

Depends on who else is on your team and the situation surrounding it. If you're the only caster and you're carrying hard, take it. Otherwise, guys like Karthus, Anivia, Annie, Ryze, etc can make much better use of it if they're not fuckin terrible.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 16:02:01
March 23 2011 15:46 GMT
#10288
On March 24 2011 00:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups.

If you're going to consider something like that, then you should also note that getting help to do golem quickly and having to kill it slowly by yourself can mean the difference between having your wraiths stolen, and being able to get there in time to catch the guy trying to steal it. "Pretty huge in certain matchups."


Obviously, if you read what shake said, it was about ashe leashing. You have bot and top, which suffer less consequences to leash than ashe, and even mid.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 23 2011 16:18 GMT
#10289
To specify we were bot left (that's blue right) so top would have no problem leashing.

Iirc I was against Trist.
Stuck.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 23 2011 17:19 GMT
#10290
Imo Ashe is probably the worst champion of them all to have leash, you miss the first crit that's the basis of your lane control.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#10291
On March 24 2011 00:46 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 00:29 TheYango wrote:
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups.

If you're going to consider something like that, then you should also note that getting help to do golem quickly and having to kill it slowly by yourself can mean the difference between having your wraiths stolen, and being able to get there in time to catch the guy trying to steal it. "Pretty huge in certain matchups."


Obviously, if you read what shake said, it was about ashe leashing. You have bot and top, which suffer less consequences to leash than ashe, and even mid.

I agree. it should not be mid leashing most of the time.
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Phil4994
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States143 Posts
March 23 2011 17:55 GMT
#10292
So, does anyone know the skill / item order of Pdiz's Karthus? I'm guessing the skill order is R>Q>E>W with a level in W at 4. I've seen him start Doran's Ring, but is it really better than a Sapphire Crystal + 2 HP Pot opening? What to build next?

I just bought him because I love every game I have where someone is recalling and is sub-100 HP. where da karthus ult at?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 23 2011 18:00 GMT
#10293
On March 24 2011 00:27 Xedat wrote:
Hello,
I am a fairly new LoL player and have a question:
I like to play vlad when I play carry and I always let the other players in my team get the golem buff if we take it.
Is it okay to get the golem buff yourself even if you only get the cdr?

yea, it's usually still preferable for you to have it as the AP carry even if you're not mana limited.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 23 2011 18:42 GMT
#10294
On March 24 2011 03:00 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 00:27 Xedat wrote:
Hello,
I am a fairly new LoL player and have a question:
I like to play vlad when I play carry and I always let the other players in my team get the golem buff if we take it.
Is it okay to get the golem buff yourself even if you only get the cdr?

yea, it's usually still preferable for you to have it as the AP carry even if you're not mana limited.

Well that of course depends, for instance Udyr can use it super well and so can someone like Jax(although he's terrible) though that's mostly true.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 18:44:19
March 23 2011 18:43 GMT
#10295
post level 8 or so Udyr's mana costs are low enough that it feels like a huge fucking waste for him to grab blue IMOIMOIMO.

EDIT: anyway, that's why I said usually. If Ezreal is your AD carry or something, you can probably afford to let him have it.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
March 23 2011 18:57 GMT
#10296
On March 24 2011 02:19 Shikyo wrote:
Imo Ashe is probably the worst champion of them all to have leash, you miss the first crit that's the basis of your lane control.


What's wrong with volleying once?

And why is mid leashing wrong? I was under the impression that it takes longer to get to top lane from Blue than to mid lane if you're bottom, and the new buff to dual lane exp means it's better to have both bot lanes there, no? All minor things, but they all can potentially "matter" in winning/losing a lane. Seems like mid leashing is still the best to me...
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 23 2011 19:01 GMT
#10297
If you're blue side top leashing is probably better because top's creeps get there later than mid's creeps do. So the slightly longer run distance is outweighed by the fact there's nothing to actually do at top for longer anyway.

It does leave the golem in the open instead of in the brush also ... I like that as far as killing it goes (no chance of weird targeting mishaps because of brush) but it's also more dangerous if the enemy is around.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 19:03:24
March 23 2011 19:02 GMT
#10298
On March 23 2011 23:37 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2011 13:33 HazMat wrote:
you can leash and get back without missing a last hit mid....
Dunno how you would zone someone though, they MIGHT get zoned out of 1 cs just to stay safe. As for Volley, there's no way you'll volley someone at lvl 1 unless you're trying to push your lane and even then, volley won't hit them unless they're really unlucky/bad.


Someone who gets to lane without leashing gets there faster. Like 5+ seconds faster. Within those 5+ seconds, you can get lane control. Pretty huge in certain matchups. For ashe, you can block routes to creep lane by just getting there faster and keep them out of range until their second creep wave comes.

How exactly do you get lane control though. Like you get to lane before a creep dies anyways. If you just stay out of Ashe's range until 1 of your creeps is about to die you can't really get hurt...
Also, if the other team is top then their solotop won't be able to leash anyways.

Though I feel like both lane should help out, it's a huge speed boost for the jungler and can save them from having to use a potion.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 19:13:09
March 23 2011 19:12 GMT
#10299
On March 24 2011 04:02 HazMat wrote:
Though I feel like both lane should help out, it's a huge speed boost for the jungler and can save them from having to use a potion.

Not to mention, timing-wise it gives you some more flexible options in the first few minutes of the game (e.g. if your top,mid, and roaming support help out so you finish blue in under 5 seconds while their jungler is doing it by themselves, you might even have enough time to squeeze in a post-blue wraith jack, depending on which junglers are involved).
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 23 2011 19:19 GMT
#10300
On March 24 2011 03:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 02:19 Shikyo wrote:
Imo Ashe is probably the worst champion of them all to have leash, you miss the first crit that's the basis of your lane control.


What's wrong with volleying once?

And why is mid leashing wrong? I was under the impression that it takes longer to get to top lane from Blue than to mid lane if you're bottom, and the new buff to dual lane exp means it's better to have both bot lanes there, no? All minor things, but they all can potentially "matter" in winning/losing a lane. Seems like mid leashing is still the best to me...

There's like a 10 year cooldown and you're supposed to do the crit - volley right at the start.
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