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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:11 Kaniol wrote: Still best joke/taunt belongs to Alistar IMO Ehem. "Beaten by a little girl. Hah." Sup. Or "Size doesn't mean everything." "Don't underestimate the power of the scouts code!" I would definitely consider those better. ;P | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
 You can't milk those! | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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Glacierz
United States1245 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/k52K7.jpg) Jarvan New FOTM | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Haato
Mexico81 Posts
With the advent/domination/whatever of tanky dps people say teemo got indirect buffs, kat got indirect nerfs. AOE loses power compared to single target if people don't drop fast enough (I was so glad when riot stopped giving everyone aoe ults) Burst loses to things that can outlive QWER combos and CC gains importance here Tanky DPS relies on gap closers and going all in expecting their durability:damage beats a squishy's. Can be countered by ______? TLDR: what else counters tanky dps besides teemo? how can we adapt? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:58 Haato wrote: I definitely see a rock/paper/scissor in the balancing of this game. With the advent/domination/whatever of tanky dps people say teemo got indirect buffs, kat got indirect nerfs. AOE loses power compared to single target if people don't drop fast enough (I was so glad when riot stopped giving everyone aoe ults) Burst loses to things that can outlive QWER combos and CC gains importance here Tanky DPS relies on gap closers and going all in expecting their durability:damage beats a squishy's. Can be countered by ______? TLDR: what else counters tanky dps besides teemo? how can we adapt? Kiting, and stuff like Veigar, Malzahar | ||
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sRapers_ValkS
United States644 Posts
On March 24 2011 10:58 Haato wrote: I definitely see a rock/paper/scissor in the balancing of this game. With the advent/domination/whatever of tanky dps people say teemo got indirect buffs, kat got indirect nerfs. AOE loses power compared to single target if people don't drop fast enough (I was so glad when riot stopped giving everyone aoe ults) Burst loses to things that can outlive QWER combos and CC gains importance here Tanky DPS relies on gap closers and going all in expecting their durability:damage beats a squishy's. Can be countered by ______? TLDR: what else counters tanky dps besides teemo? how can we adapt? I think the change to exhaust was also a big factor. That blind would've put all current "tanky dps" to rest. that being said, exhaust is still a real pain in the ass for them. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:13 sRapers_ValkS wrote: I think the change to exhaust was also a big factor. That blind would've put all current "tanky dps" to rest. that being said, exhaust is still a real pain in the ass for them. Exhaust works better if anything since it can't be cleansed ^^; | ||
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sRapers_ValkS
United States644 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:23 Shikyo wrote: Exhaust works better if anything since it can't be cleansed ^^; you used to be able to cleanse it????? weird. i thought that exhaust was the answer to yi because it was the one cc he COULDN'T cleanse | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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red_b
United States1267 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Imo the problem is there is a severe lack of itemization for true damage dealers and even the ones we have are prohibitively expensive. The problem with tanky dps isnt their damage, its the fact that the strengthening curve for defense is exponentially faster than that of damage. In other words, someone like irelia, jarvan, or renekton can become too beefy to fast when compared to the speed at which ranged dps can kill them. In my opinion they should drop the cost of the bf sword down by about 500 gold, and just see what happens. Big ticket items are still expensive, especially when you consider that an IE alone doesnt cut it, you need a pd or lw or bc as well. Additionally, this might swing the balance of tanky dps more towards attacking as well, since the cost of buying damage would be lower. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On March 24 2011 13:03 Two_DoWn wrote: In my opinion they should drop the cost of the bf sword down by about 500 gold, and just see what happens. Big ticket items are still expensive, especially when you consider that an IE alone doesnt cut it, you need a pd or lw or bc as well. Additionally, this might swing the balance of tanky dps more towards attacking as well, since the cost of buying damage would be lower. Why would you ever buy brutalizer if BF sword was the same price? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On March 24 2011 13:17 Caller wrote: i died for your sins Always farm never kill. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
BF: 50 ad You give up 25 damage for 15 armor pen, 10% cdr, and the ability to build the best melee dps item in the game. Seems fair to me. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On March 24 2011 13:33 Two_DoWn wrote: Bruta: 25 damage, 15 armor pen, 10% cdr BF: 50 ad You give up 25 damage for 15 armor pen, 10% cdr, and the ability to build the best melee dps item in the game. Seems fair to me. If only all AD items were as good as bruta or had as good of a trade off. I think AP has better itemization and stats because unless you have a lichbane AP is useless without spells. Whereas AD affects autoattacks + crits. Only other ways to itemize would be to give "orb effects" ala DOTA and they tried this already (BR, phage, wits end) | ||
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