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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On December 09 2015 05:25 MotherFox wrote: do skeletons on infernal shrines give xp? if so, how does it relate to minion waves? They do give xp, yes, like the plants, undead, shrine guardians, etc. I would assume it's around the same amount of xp as a minion, but I'm not sure of the exact number. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
I try to only play ETC on HL these days and I always get Storm Shield because I know this talent well. But it seems Tour Bus can be very very powerful. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
I think moshpit is rapid fire short stuns so it might be possible to not stun someone if you slide by between stun pulses. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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Talaris
Switzerland760 Posts
On December 25 2015 23:07 Ej_ wrote: When you die during a divine palm and are revived immediately, do you lose your stacks (Gathering Power etc.)? Tooltip says your target won't die, so it should not lose the stacks. Not 100% sure though, too bad I did not ask/doublecheck with a Kael that I saved a few days ago =/ | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On December 25 2015 23:07 Ej_ wrote: When you die during a divine palm and are revived immediately, do you lose your stacks (Gathering Power etc.)? Nope, as you don't actually "die". | ||
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HewTheTitan
Canada331 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Any half decent player will focus BW or Tyrande if she follows Diablo (why the hell is everybody picking Diablo BTW?) / Tyrael / Illidan or so. I guess the obvious answer is friggin' baldy Kharazim. But since I suck with him, any other ? Is Uther good in this role ? | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On December 29 2015 01:19 Leolio wrote: I suck at support but I can at least play BW and Tyrande well. However I noticed with Morales's boost in popularity that you need to be able to dive to get her. So I need a "dive" healer. Any half decent player will focus BW or Tyrande if she follows Diablo (why the hell is everybody picking Diablo BTW?) / Tyrael / Illidan or so. I guess the obvious answer is friggin' baldy Kharazim. But since I suck with him, any other ? Is Uther good in this role ? 1. Diablo is actually really good. In my opinion, he's surpassed Leoric/Johanna to take a place in top 3 tanks (ETC/Diablo/Muradin). 2. If you have a dive assassin/bruiser like Kerrigan, Sonya, Illidan, Tyrael, or Butcher, Uther is your go-to healer. He has the huge heals and Dshield. If you do it right, someone like Kerrigan will activate ult, dive deep, and then you Dshield her before she takes substantial damage - she soaks up a ton of cooldowns and damage, and then your team just wins the fight. Brightwing can also work, but you have be a lot more careful against AoE stuff since you'll be in the middle of the fray (same for Kharazim). I suggest just having Uther as your staple support pick because he's never really bad in any composition. On December 27 2015 16:56 HewTheTitan wrote: Where are the good replay sites for heroes? I'm struggling to find anything besides gosugamers. Also, I heard they break every hotfix, so I can only look at very recent ones? Hotslogs is the only other site I would suggest. And yes, they still haven't figured out how to make replays work consistently in spite of working with the client since 2010. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7139 Posts
 I had great succes with her the last two weeks, cause in SoloQ diving her is really hard and more often than not, fails horribly Other than that, i'd second John with Uhter | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
And yeah, a lot of people misuse Uther's Divine Shield in that they see it as a save to keep a hero alive as they disengage - this is effectively wasting it, although it does of course serve this purpose very well. A shielded hero at the end of a fight will simply not be targeted by the other team who can afford to put out damage on other heroes, especially since a couple are probably already dead at this point. So what if your Illidan survives with 50 HP? If he's having to run away, the fight has probably already been lost. Instead, pop divine shield on your Kerrigan etc as they start fighting properly (not the second they engage, but just after the fight begins properly). The immediate reaction of any player when they see a Kerrigan with maelstrom leaping at you and using her abilities is to unload all their CC and damage abilities at her ASAP. A well timed Divine shield completely negates all of that damage and puts the other team on cooldown. So not only are the abilities/resources etc wasted, it is valuable time in which the rest of your team is smashing all kinds of damage onto the other team for free. Which helps the fact that Uther doesn't really deal all that much damage himself (and you should be putting your stun and your other heals/shields/cleanse etc to use in the meanwhile). Having a hero like Kerrigan or Butcher all up in your shit with DS on them is a nightmare to deal with - all you can do is run away or try to ignore them (which is hard since they are still damaging you while you cannot damage them) and at the same time you're being hit by their ranged dps, AND having to deal with a tank disrupting you as well. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Ok for the not-baldy-bearded-one, he was on my radar TBH but 5 more hotkeys is a tiny bit too much to handle. About Divine Shield I remember reading about it from CarlTheLlama, it's very interesting as most people use it as a Divine Palm thingy (I thought it was like that too). Guess I'll have to train with Uther ASAP. Harris1st > Good idea but I used to play only high mobility/high rythm heroes (BW, Nova, Murky, Illidan, Falstad...) so I just cannot play Morales or Malfurion, they don't fit with my personnality at all and I suck with them. Thanks guys for your advices. I'll go train with Uther. :-) | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On December 29 2015 17:59 Leolio wrote: I guess the problem with Diablo is that it's the go-to warrior of people who have no idea how to play warrior but know he is "meta". Got one the other day who died 17 times in HL. We won but it's a tiny bit too much, even if trading yourself can be ok with Diablo. Ok for the not-baldy-bearded-one, he was on my radar TBH but 5 more hotkeys is a tiny bit too much to handle. About Divine Shield I remember reading about it from CarlTheLlama, it's very interesting as most people use it as a Divine Palm thingy (I thought it was like that too). Guess I'll have to train with Uther ASAP. Harris1st > Good idea but I used to play only high mobility/high rythm heroes (BW, Nova, Murky, Illidan, Falstad...) so I just cannot play Morales or Malfurion, they don't fit with my personnality at all and I suck with them. Thanks guys for your advices. I'll go train with Uther. :-) Try out the Holy Radiance build...basically W talents on 4 and 7. It's really good on maps like Cursed Hollow, Towers of Doom, Infernal Shrines, and it feels like you have so much more healing because your W will connect with like the ENTIRE team. Less buttons to deal with, but equally effective. Sidenote: Thank you, Larkin, that was very well put. I was trying to find the words, but blahhhhh haha. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Protective Shield on 4, Cleanse on 7, Shrink Ray on 13 and Benediction on 16. Yes, it's a lot of buttons and it isn't an easy way to play Uther but damn can you save an ally from certain death with that. Feels so good when you managed to keep everyone alive in a teamfight with just a scrap of health. At the same time, bad Uthers are so so cringe worthy, going for horrible talents and just not healing much of anything. I wouldn't recommend Uther for newcomers unless they're being guided. Malfurion or Li Li would be much better for newcomers trying to play healer. As for Divine Shield usage, for me it depends on what I get in QM/HL. It doesn't take long to recognize if you've got a player in the team that likes to yolo into the enemy team or if you've actually got a decent melee assassin. Unless the latter is the case, I usually find it better to use Divine Shield on someone that's in the middle of the fight getting nuked but before they start to run away so that it still negates a lot of damage. Of course, sometimes you just have to use it to save that Kael'Thas trying to go ham on his own. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
I also think I'll go for Thezzy's advice in QM, training with lots of keys. I understand almost noone goes for storm shield (though I love it with BW / ETC / Tyrande), so that's 1 less key. Both ways will be interesting in short term and long term results. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On January 17 2016 07:40 ThomasjServo wrote: When can vikings safely take a hard camp level wise? Need more information to answer completely. If you take Mercenary Lord, basically anytime after level 4. Otherwise, it's a question of how many Vikings you send and which ones and whether or not you have Bribe, etc. Usually I send Olaf/Baelog with 2 stacks of Bribe (~level 7+) to do Knight camps and bribe the knights (not the wizard). It's easier to do on Diablo maps because you only need one Bribe stack for the Shaman; in fact, it's easier to do a hard camp than an easy camp as Vikings on those map. It's typically not great to send all 3 Vikings to one camp if you can help it. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On January 17 2016 09:06 SC2John wrote: Need more information to answer completely. If you take Mercenary Lord, basically anytime after level 4. Otherwise, it's a question of how many Vikings you send and which ones and whether or not you have Bribe, etc. Usually I send Olaf/Baelog with 2 stacks of Bribe (~level 7+) to do Knight camps and bribe the knights (not the wizard). It's easier to do on Diablo maps because you only need one Bribe stack for the Shaman; in fact, it's easier to do a hard camp than an easy camp as Vikings on those map. It's typically not great to send all 3 Vikings to one camp if you can help it. It was a poorly phrased way to put it, I've been shying away from merc lord, but I see its use a bit more clearly now. Pain Don't Hurt because I find myself watching Baelog more than Eric or Olaf for whatever reason. Do you know how many minions equals one stack of Viking Bribery? I also saw that you used to be able to assign 5 as a hot key for control group that isn't all 3 but it was bugged out or patched out if I read correctly? Is that the case or am I mistaken. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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