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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
October 23 2015 03:18 GMT
#481
There is also a lot of tournament data out there. here is the latest one from the NA tournament last week:

Enter the stats HTC Heroes Brawl
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 23 2015 15:48 GMT
#482
does cloaking break effects like triple tap?
Don't Panic
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 23 2015 16:39 GMT
#483
On October 24 2015 00:48 MotherFox wrote:
does cloaking break effects like triple tap?


I don't believe so since it locks on. Like you can't hide in a bush away from 3Tap.
Wat
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 23 2015 16:57 GMT
#484
On October 24 2015 00:48 MotherFox wrote:
does cloaking break effects like triple tap?


Does not, I tried to save running teammates with Shadowstalk and they get gunned down anyways.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 23 2015 17:19 GMT
#485
Is it possible to outrange triple tap? Like what if Falstad Z's away to the other side of the map after the lock-on has been performed?
Wat
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
October 23 2015 17:32 GMT
#486
On October 24 2015 02:19 Tenks wrote:
Is it possible to outrange triple tap? Like what if Falstad Z's away to the other side of the map after the lock-on has been performed?

You can outrun it if you make it to your fountain or behind your buildings, but I don't think range cancels its cast like with Pyroblast.
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-24 21:35:20
October 24 2015 21:34 GMT
#487
Is it me or Artanis Q ablitily is inspired by Shinobi 3 bosses?



https://youtu.be/uNGbAStPXZc?t=25m20s


PS Dunno why second link is not showed
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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-24 21:44:53
October 24 2015 21:43 GMT
#488
On March 23 2015 04:28 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Where could I find a comprehensive beginner's guide/ site/ video to Heroes? I've never played any MOBAs before, there isn't that much information on Liquipedia, and I have literally no idea where to start. Thanks

You can use it everytime: https://www.hotslogs.com/
Enjoy your statistics nerd or just dominate someone with most effective build ;D
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Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 24 2015 21:55 GMT
#489
Wow for an answer that is half a year late its a pretty bad one.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 30 2015 16:09 GMT
#490
What is your preferred Murky build and best tips? I bought him last night and fooled around in game, and frankly he is one of the most fun heroes I've gotten lately especially after the Artanis release proved to be a bust. I've been going:

    1. Block
    4. Living the Dream (I read some stuff about envenom Murky which seemed tempting for 1v1)
    7. Slime Advantage (Sometimes Compressed Air, but SA seems to be better guaranteed damage)
    10. Octograb (I messed around with march in AI games, maybe change depending on map. Shrines or Temple.)
    13. Continuous Slime (Sometimes Wrath of COd)
    16. Slimy Pufferfish (Just what I've been going with, again I've seen builds with Blood for blood that seem interesting)
    20. Not gotten to 20 in a game with Murky yet.



I want to mess around some with the 1v1 envenom+blood for blood tonight, but thought I'd seek some Murk advice on TL.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 30 2015 16:49 GMT
#491
personally I always go full puffer-- which is the larger radius, slimey, extra damage on slime build.

a german rank 1 streamer I like watching during work sometimes claims that the best build is block/living the dream/slime advantage/octograb/bubble machien/rejuv bubble/shark. Haven't tested it myself, but it sounds like a dueling build.
Don't Panic
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
October 30 2015 17:08 GMT
#492
I almost always play murky as my first game of the day and when I'm tired or otherwise handicapped.
Never played him in HL because people react very negatively to him and I don't think thats worth it for me.

The build you listed is in fact my favorite build (with rewind or 'a shark too' if I'm lazy).

At the beginning I just wanted to taunt people and push all day with the bubble build. But that became boring after a while because its mostly pve.
I tried the b4b envenom build for a while and yes you will get kills with it but to me it felt like I was not contributing much in teamfights.
So now I play your build almost all the time. Clears camps and waves super fast. Very relaxed, forgiving and easy playstyle(unless you take rewind).
Probably not the best for all maps comps(esp. HL) but 100% the best for me in QM.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 30 2015 17:17 GMT
#493
On October 31 2015 02:08 Garbels wrote:
I almost always play murky as my first game of the day and when I'm tired or otherwise handicapped.
Never played him in HL because people react very negatively to him and I don't think thats worth it for me.

The build you listed is in fact my favorite build (with rewind or 'a shark too' if I'm lazy).

At the beginning I just wanted to taunt people and push all day with the bubble build. But that became boring after a while because its mostly pve.
I tried the b4b envenom build for a while and yes you will get kills with it but to me it felt like I was not contributing much in teamfights.
So now I play your build almost all the time. Clears camps and waves super fast. Very relaxed, forgiving and easy playstyle(unless you take rewind).
Probably not the best for all maps comps(esp. HL) but 100% the best for me in QM.

Yeah, I'm hesitant to really go for it in HL drafting Murky, not something I want to do to other people just because I think Murky is fun to mess around in.

On October 31 2015 01:49 MotherFox wrote:
personally I always go full puffer-- which is the larger radius, slimey, extra damage on slime build.

a german rank 1 streamer I like watching during work sometimes claims that the best build is block/living the dream/slime advantage/octograb/bubble machien/rejuv bubble/shark. Haven't tested it myself, but it sounds like a dueling build.


The bubble talents seem interesting, and are definitely where I've explored least. I'll have to give it a go in Quick Match today.

I wouldn't mind doing puffer against the right comp, but I feel like you need the right amount of distraction to not have it blown up. I may just be misreading the purpose of it though and thinking fighting heroes rather than clearing.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 30 2015 20:25 GMT
#494
On October 31 2015 02:17 ThomasjServo wrote:
I wouldn't mind doing puffer against the right comp, but I feel like you need the right amount of distraction to not have it blown up. I may just be misreading the purpose of it though and thinking fighting heroes rather than clearing.


Fast auto attackers are good at taking down the pufferfish, but you have to be VERY fast as a melee attacker to do this. Even then, in the middle of teamfights of 3-5 people, the fish is more of a zoning tool than damage. Teams without coordination don't have time to target it down, so they will avoid it instead. That knowledge can be useful as you navigate the fight.

Also, of course, octograb is an insane teamfight tool. Especially if the other team took lili, since there is no counter to it then.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
October 30 2015 20:35 GMT
#495
On October 31 2015 05:25 MotherFox wrote:
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On October 31 2015 02:17 ThomasjServo wrote:
I wouldn't mind doing puffer against the right comp, but I feel like you need the right amount of distraction to not have it blown up. I may just be misreading the purpose of it though and thinking fighting heroes rather than clearing.


Fast auto attackers are good at taking down the pufferfish, but you have to be VERY fast as a melee attacker to do this. Even then, in the middle of teamfights of 3-5 people, the fish is more of a zoning tool than damage. Teams without coordination don't have time to target it down, so they will avoid it instead. That knowledge can be useful as you navigate the fight.

Also, of course, octograb is an insane teamfight tool. Especially if the other team took lili, since there is no counter to it then.

Noted, it will be a fun, albeit muted night of QM tonight. I don't care to take any guff from people with a chip on their shoulder about murky.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
October 30 2015 20:54 GMT
#496
I see that so many heroes/builds are used in pre-Blizzcon matches. Is the hotslogs are so common that you can't say it's the strongest hero or build really?
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 30 2015 21:03 GMT
#497
On October 31 2015 05:54 Jenia6109 wrote:
I see that so many heroes/builds are used in pre-Blizzcon matches. Is the hotslogs are so common that you can't say it's the strongest hero or build really?


Usually, especially if you look under Master League for HL and QM. The only exception to this I've found recently is Tassadar builds, where pro players are taking Mental Acuity at level 4, Static Charge at level 7, and Rewind at level 20, despite relatively low percentages in Hotslogs. Mental Acuity and Static Charge aren't the lowest numbers, but Rewind definitely is.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7426 Posts
November 03 2015 09:03 GMT
#498
I feel like Rewind is absolutely the way to go. Double shields, 4 storms... hell ye
Stormshield is good, too but i feel like there is rarely a case where everyone needs to be shielded at the same time and one or two are enough.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 03 2015 17:09 GMT
#499
Is there (going to be) any way to reset your MMR/rank in HL?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 17:13:44
November 03 2015 17:12 GMT
#500
https://twitter.com/DustinBrowder/status/656860168987148288?s=07

said he'll talk more about it at blizcon. I know previously bliz has said hard resets are bad for matchmaking for a time, so they don't want to do it. This sounds like it'll be some kind of rolling system that negates older games.
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