• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:34
CEST 19:34
KST 02:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!20Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)88Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format17
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Animated Gateway BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Games can Help with Majo…
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3298 users

Simple Questions, Simple Answers - Page 29

Forum Index > Heroes of the Storm
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 46 Next All
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 15:44:09
January 18 2016 15:43 GMT
#561
This was probably way too broad a question though, nevermind. Trial & Error, Practice makes Perfect, I suppose.

On January 19 2016 00:36 ThomasjServo wrote:
The only assassin off hand that I like for starting a fight is KT, and that is only because of phoenix. Dropping that down is an unmissable, get ready mofos kind of signal imo.

I like Sundering for that as well, to be fair If I giant burning bird is saying get ready mofo's, what does the literal Earth cleaving beneath your feet say?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 18 2016 15:52 GMT
#562
I did forget about sundering. I feel like sundering functions interestingly as a way to restart a team fight in a favorable way. At least in pro games, and that isn't the best QM metric.

It seems like good thralls are super patient, and if things don't start ideally, they'll use sundering as a reset button
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 15:57:07
January 18 2016 15:56 GMT
#563
On January 19 2016 00:52 ThomasjServo wrote:
I did forget about sundering. I feel like sundering functions interestingly as a way to restart a team fight in a favorable way. At least in pro games, and that isn't the best QM metric.

It seems like good thralls are super patient, and if things don't start ideally, they'll use sundering as a reset button

Sundering seems like a cool ultimate because it is extremely versatile.

You can engage when a target is out of position and split teams (Enemy KT throwing out the Phoenix 'safely'- get rekt).
You can disrupt channeled spells (Ravenous, Mosh).
You can re-engage when the enemy chases poorly (Tyrande trying to get a stun on a lagging teammate - get rekt).
You can disengage when shit goes wrong (The displacement, stun and "OH FUCK" effect buys you time).
You can finish off a fleeing target with Q and R for some decent long-range Burst.

It's just a very cool and versatile spell. And the animation/effects are sick as fuck. Too bad lv 20 upgrade for Sundering isn't so good :p
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 18 2016 16:10 GMT
#564
One of the better ults, that is for sure, I think Earthquake is potentially underrated though. 70% slow is insane and I know I was in a game with a Thrall on the other team who took it and the first two team fights I had to go, wtf, whose ult is this because I had never seen it used before.

It is similar to the Blind for Artanis, it is just obnoxious and a decent way to set up picks/collapse on a team if they stay in the spell.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
January 18 2016 17:17 GMT
#565
About the engage discussion IMO it depend on the teams, and it's only very generic guidelines:

Who has the best front line ?

If we have a better one do we want to dive them? Can our healer follow somehow ? How can they counter our dive ?
If we don't want to dive / cannot dive will they dive us ? Who do we want to protect and how ?

The last 20 or so HL games I mostly played Diablo&Thrall duo queue so all I care about is if we can dive them or not.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 18 2016 19:27 GMT
#566
So staying in line with my TLV questions besides Nova Zeratul, which heroes should I look out for and which ones should I be really happy about being on the other team.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 19:48:27
January 18 2016 19:46 GMT
#567
On January 19 2016 04:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
So staying in line with my TLV questions besides Nova Zeratul, which heroes should I look out for and which ones should I be really happy about being on the other team.

Zeratul/Nova/Falstad are the ones that TLV aren't a safe pick against. Raynor can be a nuisance cuz of SM.
In general these 4 have easy time farming stacks on Vikings. Falstad especially fucks you over, because of his global presence and every Q being an almost guaranteed kill.
Anything else should be a field day for a Viking last pick on a map where they comfortably farm (IF, GoT, ST).
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 18 2016 19:47 GMT
#568
On January 19 2016 04:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2016 04:27 ThomasjServo wrote:
So staying in line with my TLV questions besides Nova Zeratul, which heroes should I look out for and which ones should I be really happy about being on the other team.

Zeratul/Nova/Falstad are the ones that TLV aren't a safe pick against. Raynor can be a nuisance cuz of SM.
In general these 4 have easy time farming stacks on Vikings.
Anything else should be a field day for a Viking last pick on a map where they comfortably farm (IF, GoT, ST)

Basically anything with seasoned marksman or Gathering power. Gotcha.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 18 2016 23:05 GMT
#569
Kaelthas makes it hard to use them in TF
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-18 23:12:15
January 18 2016 23:12 GMT
#570
I see the potential to make them little CB spreaders, worse than Brightwing
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
January 19 2016 09:50 GMT
#571
I'd add that QM Illidan will hurt you a lot too. In QM Illidan go for The Hunt more as it's much more viable than in HL (and much more fun), so if there're TLV around, it's easy kills almost guaranteed as you cannot outrun Illidan.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 19 2016 16:15 GMT
#572
Feel happy to see anything without lane presence, or Abathur - he's only a threat if he goes for the full locust build - anything that will give you uncontested soak/push. Push is ideal, soak is a necessity. Maps like Garden of Terror, Sky Temple, Infernal Shrines where you essentially have to leave lane to go to an objective in the jungle is the dream since they either send a full hero to contest your 1/3 of a hero, or they lose a shit ton of xp.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 19 2016 16:20 GMT
#573
On January 20 2016 01:15 Larkin wrote:
Feel happy to see anything without lane presence, or Abathur - he's only a threat if he goes for the full locust build - anything that will give you uncontested soak/push. Push is ideal, soak is a necessity. Maps like Garden of Terror, Sky Temple, Infernal Shrines where you essentially have to leave lane to go to an objective in the jungle is the dream since they either send a full hero to contest your 1/3 of a hero, or they lose a shit ton of xp.

For some reason the idea of Eric poking an opposing abathur with a slingshot makes me laugh
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 19 2016 16:28 GMT
#574
On January 19 2016 01:10 ThomasjServo wrote:
One of the better ults, that is for sure, I think Earthquake is potentially underrated though. 70% slow is insane and I know I was in a game with a Thrall on the other team who took it and the first two team fights I had to go, wtf, whose ult is this because I had never seen it used before.

It is similar to the Blind for Artanis, it is just obnoxious and a decent way to set up picks/collapse on a team if they stay in the spell.

Earthquake is a great pick if you're facing a melee-heavy team and need some extra peel for your ranged damage. The storm talent buff for Earthquake basically makes you unkillable against bruiser comps.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 19 2016 18:38 GMT
#575
Ya Earthquake is for sure underrated. In the same way Sundering can wreck as an engage, Earthquake can wreck as a disengage prevention.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
January 19 2016 19:06 GMT
#576
On January 20 2016 03:38 Larkin wrote:
Ya Earthquake is for sure underrated. In the same way Sundering can wreck as an engage, Earthquake can wreck as a disengage prevention.


The real issue is finding those situations where earthquake doesn't just do what sunder would have anyway. While Earthquake can just wreck enemy teams with heavy melee comps, frequently I find myself wondering if I could have just sundered to get them all separated from my team & stunned (and therefore dead in a few seconds) anyway.
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 00:01:24
January 21 2016 00:01 GMT
#577
Can you set screen areas like in SC2? Like I hit shift F1 and I can flip there with a double tap?
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
January 21 2016 00:44 GMT
#578
^Yes you can, don't quite remember the hotkeys but I know you can I did it in the past.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2016 07:56 GMT
#579
This isn't question, but I really don't understand when to take or how to use lightning breath effectively.
Don't Panic
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
January 21 2016 08:30 GMT
#580
Not in combo with Leoric's entomb. People always want to engage fights with that and it sucks. IMO it's not a good ulti as the other one can turn a fight around.
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 588
mouzHeroMarine 339
BRAT_OK 63
FoxeR 38
RushiSC 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4045
Bisu 2322
Rain 1374
Mini 600
EffOrt 488
Larva 363
firebathero 347
Light 339
Soulkey 294
hero 209
[ Show more ]
Snow 168
actioN 161
ggaemo 160
Dewaltoss 129
Zeus 128
Rush 108
Mong 94
Hyun 62
ToSsGirL 31
Sexy 28
JYJ 28
Bale 19
Terrorterran 19
Shine 17
yabsab 15
HiyA 14
Barracks 13
Yoon 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Noble 10
zelot 10
Sacsri 10
Dota 2
qojqva2430
Counter-Strike
fl0m3646
byalli548
x6flipin460
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0125
Other Games
Grubby2752
singsing1831
Livibee491
Beastyqt302
DeMusliM274
ArmadaUGS199
B2W.Neo181
JuggernautJason100
Trikslyr62
KnowMe61
ODPixel43
Rex26
MindelVK2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 329
Other Games
BasetradeTV153
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile126
• Adnapsc2 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1052
Other Games
• Shiphtur451
• imaqtpie395
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 26m
Escore
16h 26m
CrankTV Team League
17h 26m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
18h 26m
Big Brain Bouts
22h 26m
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
OSC
1d 4h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.