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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
August 27 2015 10:16 GMT
#341
Brightwing was the first to drop in quite a while, so not sure I would say prices drop frequently. Also, for specialists, look at Hammer at 7k - she is a beast in this patch.
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 12:54:07
August 27 2015 11:33 GMT
#342
im not fussed about difficulty tbh ive tried some of the easier 1s and found them boring more complicated the better atm i bought illidan and hes my favourite and i rarely die on him but ill buy some cheap 1s too i suppose.
Funq
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands77 Posts
August 27 2015 12:24 GMT
#343
On August 27 2015 20:33 A_Scarecrow wrote:
im fussed about difficulty tbh ive tried some of the easier 1s and found them boring more complicated the better atm i bought illidan and hes my favourite and i rarely die on him but ill buy some cheap 1s too i suppose.


Don't get too caught up in the classification given by the game itself. Some characters are listed as easy, but are in fact pretty difficult to play properly. Just try the free rotation ones and play what feels right
I go to 11
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
August 27 2015 12:34 GMT
#344
Tyrande is probably one of the harder to play well - that doesn't make her particularly difficult. The difficulty in these types of games comes from the decisionmaking and teamwork, and not from mechanically controlling your hero (although plays can obviously be made).

Zeratul is a monster, and his void prison is one of the hardest ults to utilize well in the game (it's enough to land though).
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
August 27 2015 12:39 GMT
#345
On August 27 2015 20:33 A_Scarecrow wrote:
im fussed about difficulty tbh ive tried some of the easier 1s and found them boring more complicated the better atm i bought illidan and hes my favourite and i rarely die on him but ill buy some cheap 1s too i suppose.

I forgot you said you're very good at SC2. It makes Heroes an easy game for sure, so yeah I guess you have at least 150 APM, good map awareness and good decision making so Illidan is very interesting for sure.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 27 2015 12:40 GMT
#346
On August 27 2015 20:33 A_Scarecrow wrote:
im fussed about difficulty tbh ive tried some of the easier 1s and found them boring more complicated the better atm i bought illidan and hes my favourite and i rarely die on him but ill buy some cheap 1s too i suppose.

Best cheap hero imo is Valla. 2k gold and she is super fun, and with the right build puts out a tonnnnnnn of damage.
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
August 27 2015 13:07 GMT
#347
On August 27 2015 21:39 Leolio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:33 A_Scarecrow wrote:
im fussed about difficulty tbh ive tried some of the easier 1s and found them boring more complicated the better atm i bought illidan and hes my favourite and i rarely die on him but ill buy some cheap 1s too i suppose.

I forgot you said you're very good at SC2. It makes Heroes an easy game for sure, so yeah I guess you have at least 150 APM, good map awareness and good decision making so Illidan is very interesting for sure.
im masters to gm in sc2 if thats any help. thanks to everyone that helped me out good to see a community for this game . ill test them all out like u said guys hammer feels quite strong with the right comp and on shrine map can do devastating damage.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
August 27 2015 20:29 GMT
#348
IMO, I'd actually say that SC2 mechanics don't transfer over that well to HotS. Hero arenas are a lot more about strategic movement, positioning, and spell usage rather than speed, efficiency, and multitasking.

However obviously, playing SC at such a high level means that you definitely understand how to pick up quickly and there are many things that do help like stutter stepping, quick reactions, shimmer detection! There's a lot of new things to learn as it is a team game, and all 5 players on a team are crucial for victory!
an00bis
Profile Joined March 2011
156 Posts
August 28 2015 08:11 GMT
#349
So I am kinda noob and play on and off (level 20). What is the general consensus of dragon shire map? I think its one of my least enjoyable map. Objectives are so far apart and feels like its too stale-matey and such a stand off. It also feels like it heavily relies on team to take shrine/deny shrine and requires a pick off. Also I get team mates who seem to just waste the dragon (solo pushing 1v5 or something stupid).
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 28 2015 10:02 GMT
#350
I love Dragonshire, because if you have a hero that needs to farm, top lane is epic. And if you want to gank, you have mid and bot. So the map offers something for everyone.
And even if you lose the objective you can still prevent it from doing to much damage. Though early in the game the damage is rather predictable. I also enjoy that the objectives are so spread out as it means alot more organisation then clumping up as 5.
It is preferance though. The map needs alot of decision making, so it is probably not the most well liked map.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
August 28 2015 10:15 GMT
#351
I have really grown to like Dragon Shire. I started out on Dragon Shire with a 30% winrate of 10 games. I was abysmally bad on that map, until I actually learned it and what decisions yielded the best results. I really like how the map forces multiple rotations (especially early game) for the objective and not just "go here as 5 and fight". I agree that people in QM tend to overestimate the DK, especially the first one, which often results in it being wasted. But then again, there are no maps which are played perfectly in unorganized play.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 11:13:25
August 28 2015 11:11 GMT
#352
On August 28 2015 17:11 an00bis wrote:
So I am kinda noob and play on and off (level 20). What is the general consensus of dragon shire map? I think its one of my least enjoyable map. Objectives are so far apart and feels like its too stale-matey and such a stand off. It also feels like it heavily relies on team to take shrine/deny shrine and requires a pick off. Also I get team mates who seem to just waste the dragon (solo pushing 1v5 or something stupid).


The map becomes fun when people learn to rotate. When you get a bad teams matchup it becomes a laning map and its damn boring (imo). I love playing Dragon Shire with Zeratul or Kerrigan.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 28 2015 12:44 GMT
#353
On August 28 2015 20:11 Superbanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 17:11 an00bis wrote:
So I am kinda noob and play on and off (level 20). What is the general consensus of dragon shire map? I think its one of my least enjoyable map. Objectives are so far apart and feels like its too stale-matey and such a stand off. It also feels like it heavily relies on team to take shrine/deny shrine and requires a pick off. Also I get team mates who seem to just waste the dragon (solo pushing 1v5 or something stupid).


The map becomes fun when people learn to rotate. When you get a bad teams matchup it becomes a laning map and its damn boring (imo). I love playing Dragon Shire with Zeratul or Kerrigan.

I think Dragon Shire is probably the best map to start taking the training wheels off on, but the more I play the less interesting I find it. It isn't a bad map, I would just prefer to play others.

The only map I don't care for outright is Gardens.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
August 28 2015 13:48 GMT
#354
It's one of my favorites map right with the Spiders one. If you're a roamer (Nova, Zera, maybe Illidan too) you're going to move and kill a lot.
If you're a very mobile character like Brightwing or Falstad you'll feel like you're busy all the time and it's very fun to play.
If you're going for less mobile heroes, the key is to be very patient. Take a little advantage mid maybe, or just hold that shrine and pile up kills... The first dragon is not important at all, unless he happens just before level 10 or late game. Be patient and look at your map very often. Ask yourself all the time "Where could you be more useful than I am now?"
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 28 2015 14:06 GMT
#355
On August 28 2015 22:48 Leolio wrote:
It's one of my favorites map right with the Spiders one. If you're a roamer (Nova, Zera, maybe Illidan too) you're going to move and kill a lot.
If you're a very mobile character like Brightwing or Falstad you'll feel like you're busy all the time and it's very fun to play.
If you're going for less mobile heroes, the key is to be very patient. Take a little advantage mid maybe, or just hold that shrine and pile up kills... The first dragon is not important at all, unless he happens just before level 10 or late game. Be patient and look at your map very often. Ask yourself all the time "Where could you be more useful than I am now?"

Is it just me and the lack of massive amounts of games on that map, or does it feel like bottom gets abandoned much more quickly than on other maps?


I am not great, and neither are the people I am playing with but that is the feeling I get.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 28 2015 14:32 GMT
#356
Dragon Shire is awesome, the objective is important, but not downright gamebreaking like on most of the other maps, rotating is important, map vision is important. More mobility-focused and less deathball-focused than other maps.
The maps I really don't like are the new ones from The Eternal Conflict, the objectives there seem very dull and their layout is pretty boring as well. I like the different camps though.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 30 2015 04:44 GMT
#357
Does anyone know of a resource where I could access some really good quality high-level replays of azmodans doing dunk builds on various maps?
Don't Panic
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
August 30 2015 04:56 GMT
#358
On August 30 2015 13:44 MotherFox wrote:
Does anyone know of a resource where I could access some really good quality high-level replays of azmodans doing dunk builds on various maps?

Until the Liquipedia really gets on its feet, heroes fire has been my main resource for builds of varying quality. Replays, I would hazard to guess Khaldor's youtube channel?
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 06:30:26
August 30 2015 05:44 GMT
#359
Hi here, just started HOTS few days ago with friends and i'm looking for improvements, i read so far most of the guides/builds over TL (very nice write btw guyz, ty).

I'm looking for some "advanced" videos that focus on Valla auto atk build if that exist ?
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 30 2015 06:01 GMT
#360
On August 30 2015 13:56 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 13:44 MotherFox wrote:
Does anyone know of a resource where I could access some really good quality high-level replays of azmodans doing dunk builds on various maps?

Until the Liquipedia really gets on its feet, heroes fire has been my main resource for builds of varying quality. Replays, I would hazard to guess Khaldor's youtube channel?


I'd like replay files, so I can follow along in an actual game and see anything and everything that happens...


But I'll check out Khaldor's youtube channel all the same!
Don't Panic
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