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On November 13 2013 03:27 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2013 20:58 Derrida wrote:
So, I've begun playing yesterday. Unlocked 20/20 cards for mage, warrior, and priest decks. Put together my own deck, started playing constructed, got to gold 3 in a couple of hours. but now i get matched vs people who have crazy rare cards where I have zero rare cards in my deck because the packs i opened gave rares in druid/shaman. last game i was matched against a dude who had stuff like defender of argus, blizzard, vaporize, ethereal arcanist etc. what do i do at this point?
I don't feel comfortable enough to go arena because I don't know the game enough yet. How do I obtain cards? Do I suck it up and keep playing vs much better decks in constructed? No one can tell you how you or anyone should enjoy the game, but you may find it interesting to compare opinions after all. Some people, myself included, find a lot of excitement in fighting as the underdog. Losing sucks, but it makes the feeling of overcoming adversity even more satisfying. "I beat that guy who had a lot of rares with a pure common deck!". But also "I earned all these rare cards by winning gold through Ladder wins and Quests", making them more worth it. In the mean time you can use the opportunity to learn more about their cards, how their decks work, how yours works, increasing your own decision making process, etc. 
*freaks out because he has been answered by the one and only GRUBSTER*
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why does mind vision allways steal their lowest cost card ?
it says it copies a random card.. but i allways get the lowest cost card they have in hand.....
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Selective memory?
In all honesty, Mind Vision is a bad constructed card. Your constructed deck should be finely tuned, and focused on a strategy. Grabbing a random card from a random deck that probably has nothing to do with your deck, with a small chance of getting a real winner, is a poor card slot. Even worse is that it's a HORRIBLE top deck when both players are playing all their cards.
Yes, there are times where you get something really cool out of a Mind Vision. But there will be lots of times where you mind vision a Coin or a random 3/2 he held in hand, and then you ask yourself "Was I not better off just putting a strong, consistent card here in the first place??" For example, if you copy a strong 4-6 mana card, then in a properly built deck you should be getting your own 4-6 mana cards when you can cast them anyway.
Mind Vision and Thoughtsteal are way better in arena because 1) your deck is a hodgepodge of cards anyway, so grabbing strong cards from your opponent improves your hand, 2) the two cards you passed for Mind Vision / Thoughtsteal were probably bad, or you wouldn't have picked these cards, 3) you get valuable information on which cards your opponent has, while he has no idea what new options you just picked up for yourself.
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How long does it take to get promoted from 2 Star Gold to 3 star?
I won about 70% of my games yesterday and today. Also today I had a 5-6 game win streak.
Does it usually take a long time?
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On November 13 2013 07:04 ChEDo wrote:
How long does it take to get promoted from 2 Star Gold to 3 star?
I won about 70% of my games yesterday and today. Also today I had a 5-6 game win streak.
Does it usually take a long time?
Anywhere from 1 to many.
I got promoted every win untill somehwere in Plat, and I've seen people say they got 3star master after like 30 games. It seems to be somewhat random, possibly related to mmr.
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If it's anything like other Blizzard games, it depends on how many games you've played. The more games you've played (up to a certain amount), the more "stable" your MMR is, and the less each game means moves your MMR (up or down).
It took me 28 games to 3star master, with 4 losses and a couple of d/c's, but I had played tons of unranked constructed and had a very solid deck before I started ranked. That means I won the vast majority of my games, when each game was heavily affecting my MMR, so I rose in rank quickly. If I had practiced with ranked from the start, I imagine it would take quite a few games games to move a rank in either direction because my MMR would have stabilized at a fairly low rating, and lowly going up.
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Hmmm I guess, my mmr is stable since I afked and lost tons of game 
Too much LoL
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On November 13 2013 07:33 Sandster wrote:
If it's anything like other Blizzard games, it depends on how many games you've played. The more games you've played (up to a certain amount), the more "stable" your MMR is, and the less each game means moves your MMR (up or down).
It took me 28 games to 3star master, with 4 losses and a couple of d/c's, but I had played tons of unranked constructed and had a very solid deck before I started ranked. That means I won the vast majority of my games, when each game was heavily affecting my MMR, so I rose in rank quickly. If I had practiced with ranked from the start, I imagine it would take quite a few games games to move a rank in either direction because my MMR would have stabilized at a fairly low rating, and lowly going up.
That's the mistake I made I guess, went straight to ranked play with not even full basic card set. Well I don't mind its fun as hell to play even with the loses 
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On November 13 2013 07:33 Sandster wrote:
If it's anything like other Blizzard games, it depends on how many games you've played. The more games you've played (up to a certain amount), the more "stable" your MMR is, and the less each game means moves your MMR (up or down).
It took me 28 games to 3star master, with 4 losses and a couple of d/c's, but I had played tons of unranked constructed and had a very solid deck before I started ranked. That means I won the vast majority of my games, when each game was heavily affecting my MMR, so I rose in rank quickly. If I had practiced with ranked from the start, I imagine it would take quite a few games games to move a rank in either direction because my MMR would have stabilized at a fairly low rating, and lowly going up.
That's why I'm not bothering with ranked until I get a near-ideal deck to rank up with. Otherwise, I could still make progress to Masters 1 star level (abouts) but would start plateauing my MMR and weighting it at Masters 1 MMR unnecessarily. If I wait, I should have the least amount of wins required to get to Masters 3.
Basically, I figured this was the best way when I started ranking with a fully-free Mage deck and encountered my first loss against a heavy legendary deck (he had 3 legendaries out by turn 6...). I figured that even though I could make low Masters with the deck, I would have lost quite a few matches to decks with superior cards that would take significant amount of wins to make up for.
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no man im serious i get their lowest cost card everytime i play mind vision im not joking you should try it.. its not random at all.. and im just concerned other stuff in game are not random also lol
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yeah i've been sitting at 2 star diamond for days, winning ~80%. seems random or i'm playing bads
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On November 13 2013 08:34 Mortal wrote:
yeah i've been sitting at 2 star diamond for days, winning ~80%. seems random or i'm playing bads
I had a theory that since the player pool was small and the beta isn't finished unranked might be effecting your ranked mmr. I generally do daily quests with shit decks or goofy random stuff or just generally leave games earlier than i would normally in unranked and when I went back to ranked to 'grind' up on my real deck, it took me a 26-2 run to progress from 2 star diamond to 3 star. Perhaps I just played horrid people the entire time for no mmr, but I don't think it's very 'official' right now.
[edit]I did tank a bit of rating at 2 star trying a basic cards only challenge to masters before giving up which could account for my egregious number of games to hit 3 star with my real deck. the jump from 2star diamond -> 3star diamond was the by far the longest promotion of any in the game from copper to m3.
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Is mountain giant playable in arena? Like would you ever be able to even cast it? The otherchoice is Southsea Captain, a 3/3 for 3 cost basically in my deck.
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On November 13 2013 17:12 cascades wrote:
Is mountain giant playable in arena? Like would you ever be able to even cast it? The otherchoice is Southsea Captain, a 3/3 for 3 cost basically in my deck.
In my experience mountain giant is quite hard to play in arena. Unless you have massive card draw. Without it, I never found a chance to play him, because even when you try to save as many cards as possible (which is a bad idea btw) by the time you can actually play him you are either dead or close to it.
The Southsea captain is also usually not really an option in arena, unless you got a lot of pirates in your draft. Without the synergies it is too costly for what it does imo.
Your choice really depends on when in the draft these cards appeared. If its in the very beginning, it is an rng choice both ways, as you cannot be sure to get either pirates or card draw. If it is late in the draft, check what you have and decide.
Take with a grain of salt, I am not that experienced in the game yet.
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On November 13 2013 17:12 cascades wrote:
Is mountain giant playable in arena? Like would you ever be able to even cast it? The otherchoice is Southsea Captain, a 3/3 for 3 cost basically in my deck.
Personally i think it depends on how ur deck is going so far, if u have a ton of big drops around 5+ or alot of big spells, its pretty nice, you sometimes can get him out for 6~7 which is nice for an 8-8, even still hes kinda iffy... whats the other choice aside from the southsea captian
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It's the last card in the draft, other choice is crab crap. Yeah I managed to get the 3 worst "epics" of all time. RNGG. Anyhow, am more curious about people's experience with Mountain Giant. I am SURE someone tried him out before. Like do people actually manage to get his ass out in arena?
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On November 13 2013 17:12 cascades wrote:
Is mountain giant playable in arena? Like would you ever be able to even cast it? The otherchoice is Southsea Captain, a 3/3 for 3 cost basically in my deck.
Trump picked two mt giants last night for his hunter deck in arena, so its certainly playable but very situational.
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Mind vision late game is where it really is at, people will be holding onto their big/counter cards. It could possibly give you a legendary or show your opponent is holding onto a hex/poly/silence etc. I know I got a little nervous when a priest mind visioned my hand late game and all I had was rag, avenging wrath, and aldor. Either coincidence or to back up gizmo's claim he got aldor, lol.
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How much am I "losing out" on if I buy packs with gold rather than continuing my arena runs? Between being steady with arena and quest rewards in my limited playtime my gold just keeps on going up and up (915 now with 3 quests to do and an arena already bought) but it just feels like arena takes forever and IDK if I want to rely on it to get all my cards.
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