EPTHe just pretended to watch your stream to make you mad. And looks like he succeeded. I guess that wraps up the whole deal, he wasn't ghosting you but just making a joke. It would be time for martenJ to apologize now, but somehow I think that won't happen.
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UglyBastard
Germany53 Posts
He just pretended to watch your stream to make you mad. And looks like he succeeded. I guess that wraps up the whole deal, he wasn't ghosting you but just making a joke. It would be time for martenJ to apologize now, but somehow I think that won't happen. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 10 2013 20:27 UglyBastard wrote: So there we have it. He just pretended to watch your stream to make you mad. And looks like he succeeded. I guess that wraps up the whole deal, he wasn't ghosting you but just making a joke. It would be time for martenJ to apologize now, but somehow I think that won't happen. Dont think you should apologize for being the victim of a prank lol. | ||
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UglyBastard
Germany53 Posts
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misirlou
Portugal3241 Posts
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1nfamous
107 Posts
On December 10 2013 20:35 UglyBastard wrote: No he should apologize for public name calling and suggesting that diamondprox would "cheat". That is really bad sportsmanship by martenJ, and now that his opponent revealed the truth about the incident (he was not actually watching the stream, just had it open and pretended to do it to make a joke) it would be the right time to show some humility. and who tells us that Mr. Scumbag Diamondprox does not make that story up because he just was to stupid to upload that screenshot? | ||
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The_Unseen
France1923 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 10 2013 20:43 1nfamous wrote: and who tells us that Mr. Scumbag Diamondprox does not make that story up because he just was to stupid to upload that screenshot? We dont know one way or the other. But with how he OP describes it with the obvious super long turns and loading up this super obvious screen shot after he had already been accused of watching the stream makes doing it on purpose the much more likely explanation. | ||
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martenJ
Germany8 Posts
On December 10 2013 19:49 Redox wrote: Is it possible you are so blinded by your rage that you dont see what he is saying there? He is implying that he uploaded a screenshot that made it look like he was ghosting on purpose, to take the piss out of you. And you took the bait hook, line and sinker. Before when he was taking super long turns it was probably done to make it look super obvious and rile you up. Then they were translating everything you said and laughed their asses off. With this thread you have given them even more comedy material. yes, I understand what he's trying to say. Obv there's a non-zero chance that that is what happened, but I'm quite sure he was just cheating: - I'm just a random dude he doesn't know. Why would you do that to a person you don't know? If I wanna make fun of a guy I'd chose a celebrity or a friend. - Before the match started I mentioned multiple times that I feel honored playing him, I gave him no reason at all to troll me. - He played really, really slowly literally from turn one game one onwards. Afterwards I said on stream that he might be watching my stream. Not the other way around. - I gave him the chance to explain himself when I asked him if hes watching my stream after game two - He changed his name on ESL after I officially protested. - We played in the QF, but he uploaded the screenshot vs me in for the SF match. Chances are pretty high that I would not see it, in fact I wouldn't have looked at it if no one had sent me the link. - Seems really risky to do that in an official tournament. He has a lot to lose (his e-sports career) and nothing to gain. - He has a pretty poor reputation in the LoL community. - If someone on skype was translating what I am saying why would he open my stream? The chat was in German as well FWIW. He wasn't just taking a quick screenshot to troll me, he had my stream open for quite some time. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 10 2013 21:00 martenJ wrote: yes, I understand what he's trying to say. Obv there's a non-zero chance that that is what happened, but I'm quite sure he was just cheating: - I'm just a random dude he doesn't know. Why would you do that to a person you don't know? If I wanna make fun of a guy I'd chose a celebrity or a friend. - Before the match started I mentioned multiple times that I feel honored playing him, I gave him no reason at all to troll me. For some this might be a pretty good reason to troll you. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On December 10 2013 19:49 Redox wrote: Is it possible you are so blinded by your rage that you dont see what he is saying there? He is implying that he uploaded a screenshot that made it look like he was ghosting on purpose, to take the piss out of you. And you took the bait hook, line and sinker. Before when he was taking super long turns it was probably done to make it look super obvious and rile you up. Then they were translating everything you said and laughed their asses off. With this thread you have given them even more comedy material. Your interpretation is a leap at best. Nowhere in those lines or in between them is there an implication that he was ghosting on purpose, let alone not actually doing it. If he was watching the stream together with people translating, he was getting an advantage from it. Something that he should not have done, as gaining an advantage through stream-cheating is, tadaa, cheating. Equally despicable. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 10 2013 20:35 UglyBastard wrote: No he should apologize for public name calling and suggesting that diamondprox would "cheat". That is really bad sportsmanship by martenJ, and now that his opponent revealed the truth about the incident (he was not actually watching the stream, just had it open and pretended to do it to make a joke) it would be the right time to show some humility. On December 10 2013 20:27 UglyBastard wrote: So there we have it. He just pretended to watch your stream to make you mad. And looks like he succeeded. I guess that wraps up the whole deal, he wasn't ghosting you but just making a joke. It would be time for martenJ to apologize now, but somehow I think that won't happen. Are you guys fucking high? I read the thread twice, trying to find anything that martenJ could vaguely apologize for, but I am still at lost. There are two possible scenarios, but if either of them is valid, there is only one possible - and very simple - conclusion: Diamondprox is a massive asshole. Noone should ever apologize to a person behaving like him and he should be kicked off by the community. He either cheated or bullied an oponent in a tournament. Neither of these actions has any place in a competitive enviroment. If he wants to act like that, he should just screw around with friends in public games. | ||
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weikor
Austria580 Posts
i'd just let it go, in the end hes just "some random guy" on the internet (famous in lol,-lol) theres jerks everywhere and you are just wasting your time. even if you mysteriously managed to get him to eat his own parents in a chili con carneval αs revenge, another 5 eighteen year oldjerks are there to take his place and wathc your stream | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
If so there's this Nigerian prince I'd like to introduce you to, he has a lucrative business opportunity you might be interested in. | ||
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Kashmir
New Zealand178 Posts
On December 10 2013 21:42 opisska wrote: Are you guys fucking high? I read the thread twice, trying to find anything that martenJ could vaguely apologize for, but I am still at lost. There are two possible scenarios, but if either of them is valid, there is only one possible - and very simple - conclusion: Diamondprox is a massive asshole. Noone should ever apologize to a person behaving like him and he should be kicked off by the community. He either cheated or bullied an oponent in a tournament. Neither of these actions has any place in a competitive enviroment. If he wants to act like that, he should just screw around with friends in public games. ^ After reading everything up to this point seriously this. He either got trolled or DP cheated and that's it. Don't see how it's MJ's fault that his opponent was a douche. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:44 RockIronrod wrote: Wait people actually believe he didn't really stream cheat and he was just pretending to cheat to troll someone? If so there's this Nigerian prince I'd like to introduce you to, he has a lucrative business opportunity you might be interested in. 100% this. "I swear honey, I was just giving the prostitute a ride to her car!" | ||
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serum321
United States606 Posts
On December 10 2013 22:44 RockIronrod wrote: Wait people actually believe he didn't really stream cheat and he was just pretending to cheat to troll someone? If so there's this Nigerian prince I'd like to introduce you to, he has a lucrative business opportunity you might be interested in. I don't believe even the fan boys he has posting here truly believe he didn't cheat. And to the fanbois saying the op is cheating because he can read other plays from his own stream chat; while I do agree that can be a form of cheating on a live stream, was the op waiting to play 90s ANY turn? much less every turn. Saying it was "just a troll" is an idiot's defense, seriously that is the first, dumbest thing a person could think of; myself and I'm sure many others predicted he would come to this thread and say it was "just a troll." | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On December 10 2013 21:42 opisska wrote: Are you guys fucking high? I read the thread twice, trying to find anything that martenJ could vaguely apologize for, but I am still at lost. There are two possible scenarios, but if either of them is valid, there is only one possible - and very simple - conclusion: Diamondprox is a massive asshole. Noone should ever apologize to a person behaving like him and he should be kicked off by the community. He either cheated or bullied an oponent in a tournament. Neither of these actions has any place in a competitive enviroment. If he wants to act like that, he should just screw around with friends in public games. Agreed. Whilst I'm inclined (based on all of the above) to believe that Diamondprox is, in fact, a stream cheater the alternative is that he decided to bully someone who was both slightly awed at his reputation as a player and a worthy opponent in the quarterfinals of a tournament. I don't see how either of those paints Diamond in a good light. He's either a cheater or an immature arse, neither of which is a good thing. On December 10 2013 23:41 Crownlol wrote: 100% this. "I swear honey, I was just giving the prostitute a ride to her car!" On the upside I think I could make a killing selling bridges to people around here. | ||
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Bam Lee
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Godwrath
Spain10133 Posts
On December 10 2013 20:27 UglyBastard wrote: So there we have it. He just pretended to watch your stream to make you mad. And looks like he succeeded. I guess that wraps up the whole deal, he wasn't ghosting you but just making a joke. It would be time for martenJ to apologize now, but somehow I think that won't happen. Either way, that guy is a dick and MartinJ has absolutely nothing to apologize for. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
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