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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43739 Posts
May 09 2009 09:37 GMT
#141
The unsafe dose of fluoride is unsafe. We shouldn't consume that. It's unsafe.
The safe dose of fluoride is safe. We should consume that. It's safe and is good for you.

I don't understand how anyone can get confused here.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8003 Posts
May 09 2009 09:43 GMT
#142
Stim pack is bad for you, everybody knows that.

I don't like US marines or any kind of soldiers anyway.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43739 Posts
May 09 2009 09:47 GMT
#143
The article says that when levels are above the standard, safe amount it's unsafe. So basically the American water supply isn't fit for drinking. That doesn't change my point though.
My argument is that water should have the safe amount in it, not the unsafe amount. Where your water already contains too much you should clean it up, down to the safe amount. When it doesn't contain enough you should up it to the safe amount.

The fact that your water is poisonous, or that the unsafe amount is unsafe, is utterly beside the point. The point is the safe amount is good for you and you should have that.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43739 Posts
May 09 2009 09:50 GMT
#144
Oh, and HeadBangaa, if you say "yeah, but the unsafe dose is unsafe and that is somehow relevant to how safe the safe dose is" one more time I'm going to murder someone.
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QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
May 09 2009 10:04 GMT
#145
this is fucking insane. they must recieve shots they don't know anything about?
there is DEFINITELY something wrong with this picture..
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 09 2009 10:09 GMT
#146
On May 09 2009 09:40 Yurebis wrote:
It's not a reaction, it's all the crap thats in these things.
Thats why I don't take any vaccines, and recommend everyone close to me not to.

Lol holy shit youre an idiot.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 09 2009 10:29 GMT
#147
thats fucked up man why wuold the us military do that to their own soldiers -_-
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 10:58 GMT
#148
fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?

Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 09 2009 11:14 GMT
#149
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote:
fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?

that would be an excellent analogy if your hair were in your mouth
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eStoniaNBoY
Profile Joined December 2002
Switzerland439 Posts
May 09 2009 11:21 GMT
#150
Heres an example

Soil is naturally radioactive. The level of radioactive depends where you live. And it causes serious health damages all the way to cancer. You can run, but you cant hide anyway. Water, soil, air. Life sucks no matter where you live or what you do :D Get used to it.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 11:44:29
May 09 2009 11:42 GMT
#151
could have been really a flu shot... anti-viral vaccines, especially flu shots can be really dangerous. Same shit happened in the 70s when Baxter developed swine flu shots that killed some people and stuff..
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 09 2009 11:59 GMT
#152
On May 09 2009 20:14 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote:
fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?

that would be an excellent analogy if your hair were in your mouth


the water supply u used for shower is the same as the tap water u drink no? unless u got a water filter system for ur tap water...
Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
May 09 2009 12:04 GMT
#153
On May 09 2009 19:29 alffla wrote:
thats fucked up man why wuold the us military do that to their own soldiers -_-


Experiments like that have always been made in the military, in every country, and i don't believe they will stop. I think there's no need to explain you why they do it, being pretty obvious.

Same as they test all sort of experimental drugs/medicines on people in psychiatric hospitals, sanatoriums, homeless shelters...etc.

I remember reading somewhere (multiple sources) about how they do that kind of stuff over "humanitarian missions" in poor countries (like some of africa). I'll see if i can find it.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
May 09 2009 13:17 GMT
#154
lol probably some steroid or something like that. could be sensory boosters, reflex boosters, muscle growth etc shit like that.

governments have been testing how their soldiers react to different drugs for ages. there's that video on youtube where soldiers were given LSD to see if that made them stronger, faster soldiers.

the vikings would eat small amounts of poisonous mushrooms to give them hallucinations and alter their mind so they can fight better. morphine and caffeine amongst other drugs have a history of being used in combat to give your troops an advantage.

anyway that's my guess.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
May 09 2009 13:24 GMT
#155
Dude I think this may be a t-virus
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 14:07:25
May 09 2009 13:44 GMT
#156
On May 09 2009 18:12 HeadBangaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2009 14:43 Jibba wrote:
On May 09 2009 14:40 HeadBangaa wrote:
The fluoridists can say, at best, that at low levels, we do not know the consequence.

We have become non-consenting participants in a drug experiment.

Get your water elsewhere. There's plenty of things we don't directly consent to.

EDIT: If your history is right (I'm too lazy and indifferent to check) then it certainly does raise alarms for future policies, but the point I'm making is that at some point, usually at the city/county level, we did become consenting participants even if you didn't give direct consent, probably because you were just a sperm back then.

There are some policies choices that have never been presented to us, but I don't think this is one of them. Through representative democracy, we did give our consent.

Representative democracy as a euphemism for special interest lobbying? Come now, don't be so naive.

And "Get your water elsewhere?" That's your answer to contamination concerns? Why not just stop polluting our existing supplies? The government should rather provide fluoride to citizens individually. Then you can drink all the fluoride you want, and I get clean tap water.

Why do you liberals so despise self-determination? Stop imposing on me, Man.
Special interest lobbying is built into the American system. If you act as an individual, you will get less accomplished than if you form a coalition with like-minded people. The entire population is represented by different interest groups, not just big companies.

Again, where ever you live chose, probably through vote, to start putting fluoride in the water. Just because you didn't condone it doesn't mean the general population didn't. If you want to live in a place where only your consent is followed, I suggest you take over North Korea.

Don't you live in San Diego? If so, then what are you complaining about then? San Diego County has never approved fluoridating their water (I guess San Diegoans are genetically resistant to special interest lobbying!) and they're still not doing it until the state pays for everything.

It's funny that you're trying to parlay this into a liberal vs. conservative issue, because the whole process falls very much in line with conservative values. Historically, water control takes place at the county level in municipal hearings and only just recently has it begun to enter the realm of state legislatures. This has nothing to do with the federal government, and it probably never will as a public health issue.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/services/DPOPP/regs/Documents/DPH-17-04FinalRegText2008-27-08.doc
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 09 2009 13:49 GMT
#157
On May 09 2009 16:12 Mikeho wrote:
Heres some more food for thought:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program

Start reading part 7...and If you think its fake then check out the sources at the bottom

Yep, those are pretty terrible.

In the 60s, the British government tested the spread of small pox by infecting one sheep on a small off-shore island and seeing how it would spread given the wind conditions. All the sheep died, but one of them fell into the water and made it to the mainland or something, and ended up kiling a few people.
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Reno(TE)
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom434 Posts
May 09 2009 14:17 GMT
#158
nanomachines ... sop .... war economy
A pro isnt someone who sacrifices themselves for their job, thats just a fool.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-09 14:31:01
May 09 2009 14:24 GMT
#159
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote:
fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?

Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison...



Guess what!? When you drink water with small amounts of floride in it; it touches your teeth! Yes I know what a concept..things you drink touch your teeth, no fucking way!? Guess what? It works too, studies have clearly shown better tooth health in communities exposed to florided water. Think. Things. Through.

And in case you missed it, that was idras point. *shakes head* You're really dense.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
May 09 2009 14:32 GMT
#160
I'm all for bucking the system. I WANT to believe things like this, because I do believe that lots of things our government does are retarded and outdated. My sister hasn't vaccinated her kids, and my parents don't use fluoride. Ever.

But being the scientist I am, I had to discover the answers for myself, and upon reading all of the available research I could find, I just can't agree with the paranoid sides of these arguments. It's true that some cities/counties have overdone the fluoride treatment leading to problems like fluorosis, but by and large the amount added to our water is well within safe limits.

As far as its benefits from being ingested in small quantities, there is a strong correlation between fluoride in drinking water and cavity decrease in the population. Whether this is due to the fact that fluoride is in the system while teeth are developing or because its in your mouth while you're drinking it (and hence touching your teeth) is still up for debate. There really isn't any conclusive data on this, because we simply don't know how the stuff is metabolized and how it may or may not end up in your tooth enamel. There are plenty of dentists, doctors, and assorted PhDs on both sides of that debate.

But seriously, unless it is at toxic levels in your water supply, there's no evidence that it'll cause problems. Regardless of the actual mechanism by which it acts, there is plenty of evidence that it helps prevent cavities.
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