The safe dose of fluoride is safe. We should consume that. It's safe and is good for you.
I don't understand how anyone can get confused here.
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KwarK
United States42689 Posts
The safe dose of fluoride is safe. We should consume that. It's safe and is good for you. I don't understand how anyone can get confused here. | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7890 Posts
I don't like US marines or any kind of soldiers anyway. | ||
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KwarK
United States42689 Posts
My argument is that water should have the safe amount in it, not the unsafe amount. Where your water already contains too much you should clean it up, down to the safe amount. When it doesn't contain enough you should up it to the safe amount. The fact that your water is poisonous, or that the unsafe amount is unsafe, is utterly beside the point. The point is the safe amount is good for you and you should have that. | ||
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KwarK
United States42689 Posts
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
there is DEFINITELY something wrong with this picture.. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On May 09 2009 09:40 Yurebis wrote: It's not a reaction, it's all the crap thats in these things. Thats why I don't take any vaccines, and recommend everyone close to me not to. Lol holy shit youre an idiot. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison... | ||
IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water? that would be an excellent analogy if your hair were in your mouth | ||
eStoniaNBoY
Switzerland439 Posts
Soil is naturally radioactive. The level of radioactive depends where you live. And it causes serious health damages all the way to cancer. You can run, but you cant hide anyway. Water, soil, air. Life sucks no matter where you live or what you do :D Get used to it. | ||
diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On May 09 2009 20:14 IdrA wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water? that would be an excellent analogy if your hair were in your mouth the water supply u used for shower is the same as the tap water u drink no? unless u got a water filter system for ur tap water... | ||
Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On May 09 2009 19:29 alffla wrote: thats fucked up man why wuold the us military do that to their own soldiers -_- Experiments like that have always been made in the military, in every country, and i don't believe they will stop. I think there's no need to explain you why they do it, being pretty obvious. Same as they test all sort of experimental drugs/medicines on people in psychiatric hospitals, sanatoriums, homeless shelters...etc. I remember reading somewhere (multiple sources) about how they do that kind of stuff over "humanitarian missions" in poor countries (like some of africa). I'll see if i can find it. | ||
pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
governments have been testing how their soldiers react to different drugs for ages. there's that video on youtube where soldiers were given LSD to see if that made them stronger, faster soldiers. the vikings would eat small amounts of poisonous mushrooms to give them hallucinations and alter their mind so they can fight better. morphine and caffeine amongst other drugs have a history of being used in combat to give your troops an advantage. anyway that's my guess. | ||
DarkYoDA
United States1347 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 09 2009 18:12 HeadBangaa wrote: Special interest lobbying is built into the American system. If you act as an individual, you will get less accomplished than if you form a coalition with like-minded people. The entire population is represented by different interest groups, not just big companies. Show nested quote + On May 09 2009 14:43 Jibba wrote: On May 09 2009 14:40 HeadBangaa wrote: The fluoridists can say, at best, that at low levels, we do not know the consequence. We have become non-consenting participants in a drug experiment. Get your water elsewhere. There's plenty of things we don't directly consent to. EDIT: If your history is right (I'm too lazy and indifferent to check) then it certainly does raise alarms for future policies, but the point I'm making is that at some point, usually at the city/county level, we did become consenting participants even if you didn't give direct consent, probably because you were just a sperm back then. There are some policies choices that have never been presented to us, but I don't think this is one of them. Through representative democracy, we did give our consent. Representative democracy as a euphemism for special interest lobbying? Come now, don't be so naive. And "Get your water elsewhere?" That's your answer to contamination concerns? Why not just stop polluting our existing supplies? The government should rather provide fluoride to citizens individually. Then you can drink all the fluoride you want, and I get clean tap water. Why do you liberals so despise self-determination? Stop imposing on me, Man. Again, where ever you live chose, probably through vote, to start putting fluoride in the water. Just because you didn't condone it doesn't mean the general population didn't. If you want to live in a place where only your consent is followed, I suggest you take over North Korea. Don't you live in San Diego? If so, then what are you complaining about then? San Diego County has never approved fluoridating their water (I guess San Diegoans are genetically resistant to special interest lobbying!) and they're still not doing it until the state pays for everything. It's funny that you're trying to parlay this into a liberal vs. conservative issue, because the whole process falls very much in line with conservative values. Historically, water control takes place at the county level in municipal hearings and only just recently has it begun to enter the realm of state legislatures. This has nothing to do with the federal government, and it probably never will as a public health issue. http://www.cdph.ca.gov/services/DPOPP/regs/Documents/DPH-17-04FinalRegText2008-27-08.doc | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 09 2009 16:12 Mikeho wrote: Heres some more food for thought: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program Start reading part 7...and If you think its fake then check out the sources at the bottom Yep, those are pretty terrible. In the 60s, the British government tested the spread of small pox by infecting one sheep on a small off-shore island and seeing how it would spread given the wind conditions. All the sheep died, but one of them fell into the water and made it to the mainland or something, and ended up kiling a few people. | ||
Reno(TE)
United Kingdom434 Posts
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water? Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison... Guess what!? When you drink water with small amounts of floride in it; it touches your teeth! Yes I know what a concept..things you drink touch your teeth, no fucking way!? Guess what? It works too, studies have clearly shown better tooth health in communities exposed to florided water. Think. Things. Through. And in case you missed it, that was idras point. *shakes head* You're really dense. | ||
Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
But being the scientist I am, I had to discover the answers for myself, and upon reading all of the available research I could find, I just can't agree with the paranoid sides of these arguments. It's true that some cities/counties have overdone the fluoride treatment leading to problems like fluorosis, but by and large the amount added to our water is well within safe limits. As far as its benefits from being ingested in small quantities, there is a strong correlation between fluoride in drinking water and cavity decrease in the population. Whether this is due to the fact that fluoride is in the system while teeth are developing or because its in your mouth while you're drinking it (and hence touching your teeth) is still up for debate. There really isn't any conclusive data on this, because we simply don't know how the stuff is metabolized and how it may or may not end up in your tooth enamel. There are plenty of dentists, doctors, and assorted PhDs on both sides of that debate. But seriously, unless it is at toxic levels in your water supply, there's no evidence that it'll cause problems. Regardless of the actual mechanism by which it acts, there is plenty of evidence that it helps prevent cavities. | ||
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