To be honest , this video in sensationalist bullshit. Not just the first 2 minutes, the whole thing.
Yes its unfortunate and extremely unfair how the military handled the administration and documented it but the fact is people (very rarely) have adverse reactions to vaccines. It's entirely possible(and probable) that the vaccine really was a flu shot. No need to make into some huge conspiracy bullshit just to get people to watch your news program.
Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
Keep in mind, theres also a lot of idiots in the military(just like everywhere). It's entirely possible that they were told what the vaccine was and just weren't paying attention, or it was in writing and they didnt read the whole thing. And its also entirely possible that it wasnt documented because of a clerical error.
The news station is going to be looking for EVERY POSSIBLE CASE for instances like this to use in their program. They are going to ignore the thousands and thousands of cases where everything goes right.
For example, the broadcast claims that a "frightening number" are having adverse reactions to vaccinations. Apparently a frightening number is Two. OMG TWO PEOPLE HOLY SHIT!? Actually thats completely within the statistical normality for allergic reactions to vaccinations. It's EXTREMELY rare.
For the record, I'm not a fan of our military at all. Especially the marines, but I call bullshit when I see it. I'm not saying what happened to mr david isn't fucked up. But things should be kept in perspective.
On May 09 2009 23:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
On May 09 2009 23:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
On May 09 2009 23:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
It's true. Swine flu anyone?
how is a worldwide flu epidemic unimportant
Because it's not virulent at all. Ask any doctor, the whole thing was invented by the media.
On May 09 2009 23:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
It's true. Swine flu anyone?
how is a worldwide flu epidemic unimportant
cuz the number of infections is going down highly?
Remember, news stations are constantly trying to make things sound more important more dangerous , more profound or simply more interesting than they really are.
Agreed 100%. As gamers, we should all know this. Need an example?
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?
Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison...
Guess what!? When you drink water with small amounts of floride in it; it touches your teeth! Yes I know what a concept..things you drink touch your teeth, no fucking way!? Guess what? It works too, studies have clearly shown better tooth health in communities exposed to florided water. Think. Things. Through.
And in case you missed it, that was idras point. *shakes head* You're really dense.
uhm... let me repeat my points.... currently, they put fluoride into our water, so that when we drink it, it would touches our teeth and benefits our oral heatlh... my points is, since u don have to ingest(IE:DRINK) the fluoride for it to have it benefits, why put that thing into our drinking water when there's known side effects.... most of european countires doesn't have fluoride in their water supplies... and yet they don't have as much of an oral health issues as people who had fluoride in their water did.
Didn't read the whole thread so maybe this was already brought up but:
Soldiers (especially ones going out of the country) are going to get many immunization shots. After the third or fourth needle stick, do you think they care what the next shot is? They aren't going to ask, and the nurses or whoever gives the shots aren't going to bother telling each of the hundreds of soldiers either. It's not surprising or alarming to me that the soldiers didn't know what the shot was.
Not showing up in the medical records is not good though. Even if the delay was just due to government sloth, medical records need to be kept up to date so doctors can treat patients as well as possible.
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?
Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison...
Guess what!? When you drink water with small amounts of floride in it; it touches your teeth! Yes I know what a concept..things you drink touch your teeth, no fucking way!? Guess what? It works too, studies have clearly shown better tooth health in communities exposed to florided water. Think. Things. Through.
And in case you missed it, that was idras point. *shakes head* You're really dense.
uhm... let me repeat my points.... currently, they put fluoride into our water, so that when we drink it, it would touches our teeth and benefits our oral heatlh... my points is, since u don have to ingest(IE:DRINK) the fluoride for it to have it benefits, why put that thing into our drinking water when there's known side effects.... most of european countires doesn't have fluoride in their water supplies... and yet they don't have as much of an oral health issues as people who had fluoride in their water did.
Show me an actual study somewhere that says fluoride doesn't benefit your teeth if you ingest it, because as far as I know, by ingesting the fluoride, your body incorporates that into your teeth.
I mean, seriously, how often do you think the fluoride would stay in contact with your teeth if all you do is brush with fluoride. It'll barely do anything.
Not taking vaccines is just idiotic, the chance of the side effects are minimal and the chance for severe side effects are almost non existent. Also with not taking vaccines don't just put yourself in danger, you put everyone else that is lacking the vaccine in danger, for example: the poor (In nations without free vaccines), and the ones that was born before vaccines were offered to children.
And fluoride in the water is a very good thing. For the fluoride to be dangerous you need to drink insane quantities of water and fluoride is one of the very few compounds that is proven to be good for the teeth.
On May 09 2009 19:58 Shizuru~ wrote: fluoride works when apllied directly onto the teeth's surface, there is no need to ingest it, they put it in our water, saying its for the health for our teeth? its like saying putting some parts of shampoo in our water supply and saying it'll help our hair's look/health while people are gonna drink that water?
Hitler put fluoride into the water the Jewish drank in the concentration camp during the holocaust as a poison...
Guess what!? When you drink water with small amounts of floride in it; it touches your teeth! Yes I know what a concept..things you drink touch your teeth, no fucking way!? Guess what? It works too, studies have clearly shown better tooth health in communities exposed to florided water. Think. Things. Through.
And in case you missed it, that was idras point. *shakes head* You're really dense.
The point is that it's recommended to ingest(swallow) the fluoride to help keep teeth healthy. You don't have to swallow something for it to touch your teeth.
I mean fuck, toothpaste has fluoride - isn't optional shit with fluoride in it enough? No, it isn't - instead it's mandatory for fucking everyone like it or not. How can people not see there is something shady going on there? Absolutely ridiculous.
Again, the entire point here is that it ISNT OPTIONAL
And finally - I am not saying they are trying to poison people. Really that doesn't seem impossible but I don't know. What I am saying is that the system is corrupt and people in power pretty much never give the tiniest fuck about the general populous.
On May 09 2009 18:37 Kwark wrote: The unsafe dose of fluoride is unsafe. We shouldn't consume that. It's unsafe. The safe dose of fluoride is safe. We should consume that. It's safe and is good for you.
I don't understand how anyone can get confused here.
- problem is the "low" doses used in current fluoridation are harmful for a myriad of reasons, even the current types of fluoride used are more harmful than the original, it's all bad though; water should not be fluoridated, learn, I understand government bureaucrats still being stuck in the 1940's but no google savy tl.neter should.. - http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/federal-report-reveals-fluorides-health-risks-14249.html
On May 09 2009 18:37 Kwark wrote: The unsafe dose of fluoride is unsafe. We shouldn't consume that. It's unsafe. The safe dose of fluoride is safe. We should consume that. It's safe and is good for you.
I don't understand how anyone can get confused here.
- problem is the "low" doses used in current fluoridation are harmful for a myriad of reasons, even the current types of fluoride used are more harmful than the original, it's all bad though; water should not be fluoridated, learn, I understand government bureaucrats still being stuck in the 1940's but no google savy tl.neter should.. - http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/federal-report-reveals-fluorides-health-risks-14249.html
Interesting, i have a couple of questions. Romania does not introduce fluoride in either water or salt or other aliments. However, there is fluoride in the water, small and natural amounts (as they say) ~0.5mg/l - 0.8mg/l.
Is that fluoride toxic also? Did some googling and found upon answers that fluoride does exist naturally in stuff and that the small amounts aren't bad but good as the human body has a small daily need of fluoride. How do you feel about that?
Second question, i know that all the toothpaste we use is high in fluoride. Should we be worried about using it or does it actually help and it's good (since i guess a part of it still ends in your stomach)?
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