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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
October 30 2025 12:40 GMT
#17361


Analyzing some more of the Russian bullshit being spewed out.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
October 30 2025 14:31 GMT
#17362
On October 30 2025 21:40 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7M3DEwgA_s

Analyzing some more of the Russian bullshit being spewed out.


Jesus Christ. Is this man capable of spewing anything other than pure sewage? The worst thing for me is how he clearly thinks he's so smart as well, smirking to himself cleverly, while everyone and their mom can easily see through his braindead stupidity
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
October 30 2025 17:52 GMT
#17363
On October 30 2025 23:31 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2025 21:40 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7M3DEwgA_s

Analyzing some more of the Russian bullshit being spewed out.


Jesus Christ. Is this man capable of spewing anything other than pure sewage? The worst thing for me is how he clearly thinks he's so smart as well, smirking to himself cleverly, while everyone and their mom can easily see through his braindead stupidity


You mean the guy making the video or Putin?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8246 Posts
October 30 2025 17:54 GMT
#17364
On October 31 2025 02:52 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2025 23:31 Excludos wrote:
On October 30 2025 21:40 Manit0u wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7M3DEwgA_s

Analyzing some more of the Russian bullshit being spewed out.


Jesus Christ. Is this man capable of spewing anything other than pure sewage? The worst thing for me is how he clearly thinks he's so smart as well, smirking to himself cleverly, while everyone and their mom can easily see through his braindead stupidity


You mean the guy making the video or Putin?


Putin of course. The video seems pretty on point
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
October 30 2025 20:22 GMT
#17365
I hope Russian builds him a mausoleum like Lenin, but put him there alive, and people from around the world can just go see him and tell him he has been a very naughty boy :D
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0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
October 30 2025 22:58 GMT
#17366
On October 29 2025 20:46 zeo wrote:
Hey guys, don't know if you've noticed but the word 'Pokrovsk' hasn't been mentioned in this thread for over a month. Just thought you'd like to know.

edit: Massive cope dumps incoming over the next few days.



Your window for this post was quite tight, between the Russian announcement, and the immediate report of the total failure of that operation.

Well done
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43803 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 06:45:36
October 30 2025 23:15 GMT
#17367
RFU isn’t a very reliable source in the macro view. He doesn’t necessarily lie about tactical level reports but he does cherry pick and present outlier tactical reports as representative of a strategic situation which may be very different.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 06:46:15
October 31 2025 02:33 GMT
#17368
On October 31 2025 08:15 KwarK wrote:
RFU isn’t a very reliable source in the macro view. He doesn’t necessarily lie about tactical level reports but he does cherry pick and present outlier tactical reports as representative of a strategic situation which may be very different.


It sure is overly optimistic channel but some level of bias either way is to be expected from most sources on YouTube etc.
Just gotta keep in mind that there's a lot of misinformation, disinformation, propaganda and cherry picking on both sides and despite it being the best documented war in history the fog of war still lies heavy. I don't think any of us will be able to glean the actual state of the front lines for quite a while still.

I do wonder when all of this is over how the full story is going to look like as materials from the war are being released etc.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 06:46:32
October 31 2025 02:54 GMT
#17369
On October 31 2025 08:15 KwarK wrote:
RFU isn’t a very reliable source in the macro view. He doesn’t necessarily lie about tactical level reports but he does cherry pick and present outlier tactical reports as representative of a strategic situation which may be very different.


I felt it appropriate, as the level of arguments is the same as Zeo. So he might just be confronted with his own level while adults talks in the leaving room.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5771 Posts
October 31 2025 07:23 GMT
#17370
On October 31 2025 07:58 0x64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2025 20:46 zeo wrote:
Hey guys, don't know if you've noticed but the word 'Pokrovsk' hasn't been mentioned in this thread for over a month. Just thought you'd like to know.

edit: Massive cope dumps incoming over the next few days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_IOsJYIPYI

Your window for this post was quite tight, between the Russian announcement, and the immediate report of the total failure of that operation.

Well done

Is this a reliable source?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
October 31 2025 08:08 GMT
#17371
It's really not, it's a hurra Ukrainian propaganda channel. You will never find anything negative about the Ukranian situation on that channel.

If you want to feel good about how it's going, sure, watch it. But not if you want to know how it's really going.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6336 Posts
October 31 2025 08:56 GMT
#17372
On October 31 2025 11:54 0x64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2025 08:15 KwarK wrote:
RFU isn’t a very reliable source in the macro view. He doesn’t necessarily lie about tactical level reports but he does cherry pick and present outlier tactical reports as representative of a strategic situation which may be very different.


I felt it appropriate, as the level of arguments is the same as Zeo. So he might just be confronted with his own level while adults talks in the leaving room.

All I said was the word Pokrovsk hasn't been mentioned in this thread for a month and you devolved into hysterics. I think thats more indicative of the way things are going.

Why are you so stressed out? The Russian former convicts with no equipment, no training, no food, no fuel (with AIDS) have 39 - 1 losses and are dying in crazy numbers while the Ukrainians are bravely advancing away from them with smiles on their faces and witty one-liners. Why are you so stressed out over the name of a town?

Here are a few more names:
Kupyansk
Seversk
Lyman
Konstantinovka
Guliaipole

I wonder whats happening in those places in that order. Does it all connect with the reality you've dreamed up?
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11789 Posts
October 31 2025 10:31 GMT
#17373
I nearly fell into the trap of replying to a zeo post. Barely caught myself in time.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5088 Posts
October 31 2025 10:48 GMT
#17374
A meta reply is still a reply.

3 words for zeo: special military operation.
Taxes are for Terrans
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11789 Posts
October 31 2025 11:56 GMT
#17375
On October 31 2025 19:48 Uldridge wrote:
A meta reply is still a reply.

3 words for zeo: special military operation.


Probably true. It is just very weird seeing someone gleefully cheering on the obvious bad guys like that.

Like, even if the propaganda bullshit that zeo seems to believe in was true and Russia was massively winning, that would still be a bad thing? Russia winning wouldn't make them any more right, it would just mean that the bad guys also sometimes win.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 12:22:30
October 31 2025 11:58 GMT
#17376
On October 31 2025 17:56 zeo wrote:
All I said was the word Pokrovsk hasn't been mentioned in this thread for a month and you devolved into hysterics. I think thats more indicative of the way things are going.


I'll bite.

Have you maybe thought the word "Pokrovsk" hasn't been mentioned in this thread for a month because nothing significant was happening there? It was supposed to fall this time last year yet it's still standing.



Here are a few more names:
Kupyansk
Seversk
Lyman
Konstantinovka
Guliaipole

I wonder whats happening in those places in that order. Does it all connect with the reality you've dreamed up?


Kupyansk - fighting is happening in Kupyansk but very little change over the past 2 weeks
Seversk - nothing is happening
Lyman - there are some fights near Lyman but very little overall movement over a week
Konstantinovka - nothing is happening
Guliaipole - nothing is happening
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 12:26:47
October 31 2025 12:22 GMT
#17377
On October 31 2025 17:56 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2025 11:54 0x64 wrote:
On October 31 2025 08:15 KwarK wrote:
RFU isn’t a very reliable source in the macro view. He doesn’t necessarily lie about tactical level reports but he does cherry pick and present outlier tactical reports as representative of a strategic situation which may be very different.


I felt it appropriate, as the level of arguments is the same as Zeo. So he might just be confronted with his own level while adults talks in the leaving room.

All I said was the word Pokrovsk hasn't been mentioned in this thread for a month and you devolved into hysterics. I think thats more indicative of the way things are going.

Why are you so stressed out? The Russian former convicts with no equipment, no training, no food, no fuel (with AIDS) have 39 - 1 losses and are dying in crazy numbers while the Ukrainians are bravely advancing away from them with smiles on their faces and witty one-liners. Why are you so stressed out over the name of a town?

Here are a few more names:
Kupyansk
Seversk
Lyman
Konstantinovka
Guliaipole

I wonder whats happening in those places in that order. Does it all connect with the reality you've dreamed up?


Hah good one
The day Russia surrenders and Putin falls, you'll be celebrating how peaceful and merciful Russia is to spare Ukraine few days before Ukraine falls.

Your brain is rotting, I gave you a video, go comment there. I perfectly know the level of bias of that channel, it's way less than you've ever posted. Russia is collapsing in real time, we have accurately understood how long it would take and how long the Russian economy could sustain, we also knew how costly giving up Russian oil would be but in the end, Russia doing dumb things, has really dumb results. You don't even know how many Russian has died, or simply you don't understand the meaning of life. Psychopath or Sociopath? Which one would make you more proud as a description?
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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 13:50:16
October 31 2025 13:48 GMT
#17378
I think the stance of "neither side is collapsing" has been the winner for such a long time that it makes very little sense to take any other until some actual movements happen.

The front has moved very, very little over the last year and given all the troop massing and telegraphing of the Russian summer offensive that is pretty much a win for Ukraine.

They suffered their biggest loss early November last year, when Trump won the elections, otherwise we'd be looking at a very different map.

I don't think you guys understand Zeo tho, yes, he's a troll, a pretty bad one, most of the stuff he posts is cringe and shows a tremendous lack of any intellectual honesty or maturity.

His outlook on the world, however, is very easy to explain. He has been brought up and brainwashed since birth into the fever vision of Russians and Serbians being brothers, the biggest victims of the world. One lost USSR, the other Yugoslavia, both of them thought of these as "theirs" and when the reality settled after the 90-es and it became apparent that both Serbs and Russians are not good enough to achieve any of their old glory they settled in a perpetual state of paranoia mixed on victimhood and conspiracies against them. That's why they keep voting for obvious liars who tell them they are special.

Instead of helping their people, their leaders invested in propaganda and repression, and now guys like Zeo don't have much to fall back on except trying to get a raise out of more successful and prosperous people from nations that look forwards instead of backwards.

It's actually pretty sad when you think about it.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11789 Posts
October 31 2025 14:31 GMT
#17379
I think the stance of "neither side is collapsing" has been the winner for such a long time that it makes very little sense to take any other until some actual movements happen.



That is generally a pretty save stance, however it is also not helpful if that is always your prediction.

The problem with predicting this kind of war is that it will likely look the same for a long time, until stuff suddenly starts happening all at once. It is a war of exhaustion, which means hiding exactly how exhausted you are is very important. And at the point where it is impossible to hide anymore, things will collapse everywhere at once quickly.

This also means that a lot of predictions eventually look bad, even if they are not. When you say something like "The russian economy will eventually collapse", people take that as something that will happen in the next 6 months. And when it doesn't, they think your predictions are shit. If this happens a lot, they eventually think "people are always predicting the collapse of the Russian economy and it never happens, so these predictions are all shit and the Russian economy will never collapse.."

But that doesn't need to be true. It can just be the same person saying multiple times that the Russian economy will eventually collapse without giving an exact timeframe, or giving a longer timeframe than people are willing to look at.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1320 Posts
October 31 2025 14:43 GMT
#17380
To me, I lost hope in anything really happening in Russia for a few reasons:

1. China is happy to prop them up and get them in an even more subservient posture
2. Russians haven't even started going into serious debt, their Debt-to-GDP is still under 25 %
3. Russian people have incredible tolerance for hardship and from their perspective, a lot of them took this war as a boon, a lot of employment in the Military industry, huge bonuses for families and soldiers signing up
4. No matter what, they will have the ability to export a lot of stuff and plenty of countries willing to do business with them

Yes, they are facing huge demographic issues down the line, they are under sanctions, they will have issues maintaining a lot of stuff, but none of those things look to me like it could collapse the 11th largest economy of the world any time soon.

As always, I'll preface this by saying that I hope I'm wrong and nothing would make me happier then for someone to change my mind.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
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