EPTUnfortunately, in both cases, it seems like something that can work over a very long time horizon, I'm talking 2 years minimum, given the political outlook for Europe and Trump being there for the full duration, it makes me worried what will happen in Ukraine if they run out of money first.
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Jankisa
Croatia849 Posts
Unfortunately, in both cases, it seems like something that can work over a very long time horizon, I'm talking 2 years minimum, given the political outlook for Europe and Trump being there for the full duration, it makes me worried what will happen in Ukraine if they run out of money first. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8129 Posts
On October 25 2025 00:28 Jankisa wrote: I hope the strategy works, from the "the population will be fed up and do something" angle, I'm not so sure, from the "fuck up the Russian economy to the point where they can't finance the war anymore" I'm more optimistic. Unfortunately, in both cases, it seems like something that can work over a very long time horizon, I'm talking 2 years minimum, given the political outlook for Europe and Trump being there for the full duration, it makes me worried what will happen in Ukraine if they run out of money first. As Putin made it literally illegal for the Russian central bank to disclose anything about their or the country's economy, it's really difficult to tell what any kind of time aspect is here. Too many variables have changed to be able to extrapolate educated guesses from even just this spring, which was the last time they disclosed anything. It could be months, or, like you said, years. One thing's for certain, it'll happen quickly once it does, as Putin has made sure there will be no warning signs. Despite daily heavy battles, things does seem to have stabilised a little bit on the Ukrainian side. We just need to make sure to continue to supply them with what they need. The EU needs to continue picking up the slack from the Orange traitor | ||
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Yurie
11912 Posts
On October 25 2025 00:28 Jankisa wrote: I hope the strategy works, from the "the population will be fed up and do something" angle, I'm not so sure, from the "fuck up the Russian economy to the point where they can't finance the war anymore" I'm more optimistic. Unfortunately, in both cases, it seems like something that can work over a very long time horizon, I'm talking 2 years minimum, given the political outlook for Europe and Trump being there for the full duration, it makes me worried what will happen in Ukraine if they run out of money first. There isn't much risk for Europe affording it or political will on the eastern side closer to Russia. The risk would be that nations like Spain or Italy (which shouldn't feel threatened by Russia) focus more domestically due to running out of interest in the overall conflict. Luckily France will likely stay in since they want to be a major player and this allows them to be one and aligns with their long term strategic goals. Europe can afford this much longer than Russia can as it is still within promised military budgets for all nations. The risk is as you say political, though I think you overstate that. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17397 Posts
In my opinion Russia is on its last legs when it comes to economy. Even if the war ended tomorrow, even with Russian victory they'd probably be crippled for many years. But they refuse to accept defeat and instead grit their teeth and dig deeper, regardless of sacrifices they have to make. This might propel them on this path some more but will have even more dramatic consequences down the line. The question is how long can they endure it and can Ukraine hold on long enough. The problem with analyzing anything when it comes to Russia is that it's never as strong as it seems but it's also never as weak as it looks. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5650 Posts
Russians are terrorizing/murdering Ukrainian farmers. When you think those filthy fuckers can't get any lower, they always prove you wrong. | ||
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