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Germany562 Posts
21 hours ago
#17301
On October 17 2025 21:39 Silvanel wrote:
Maybe they will. Polish court just refused to allow extradition to germany of the Ukrainian suspected of particpating in its sabotage: https://kyivindependent.com/polish-court-refuses-extradition-of-ukrainian-suspect-to-germany-in-nord-stream-case/

I haven't see the clear reason for refusal in articles yet.


Insufficient evidence from the prosecution is the official reasoning, though the judge apparently also went on to claim something along the lines of generally it can't be sabotage if a ukrainian blows up something russian during wartime. Badly paraphrasing since I only watched it on the news.

The bit about something like this not being sabotage doesn't sound right to me, but legal stuff is sometimes complicated so it might be true. If you come across a more detailed source please share it, I would be happy to read up on it a bit more and from a different perspective.
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Last Edited: 2025-10-17 18:23:26
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Translated with AI tools but it's more or less true to the source in Polish:

Judge Dariusz Łubowski, in justifying his decision to deny the extradition of Volodymyr Zhuravlov to Germany, emphasized that the act of which he is suspected cannot be regarded as a crime under international law.

“Since 2014, there has been a war — a bloody and genocidal aggression by the Russian Federation against the independent Ukrainian state. From the standpoint of international law, actions undertaken in defense against aggression — including the destruction of the enemy’s infrastructure — constitute an element of the so-called ‘just war.’ Its aim is to stop evil, not to conquer territories or pursue expansion,” Judge Łubowski stated.

He added that, in Ukraine’s case, we are dealing with a classic example of a defensive war, waged “out of love for the homeland” and in defense of the nation against an aggressor.

“By defending itself against the Russian Federation, Ukraine meets all the criteria of a just war. Therefore, individuals acting in the interest of that state cannot be treated as saboteurs or terrorists,” the judge explained.

“If the Nord Stream pipeline is considered part of the strategic infrastructure of the Russian Federation, then its damage — carried out in the course of Ukraine’s defense — cannot be regarded as an unlawful act. It was an action that was justified, rational, and — in the light of the law — just,” Judge Łubowski continued.

On this basis, the court concluded that Volodymyr Zhuravlov is entitled to functional immunity, arising from the fact that his alleged actions may have been directly connected with the performance of duties on behalf of the Ukrainian state.


I'm not sure if there's a written justification yet. Probably not.

Apparently a few days earlier an Italian court also decided against extraditing their Ukrainian suspect to Germany but that decision only sent the case back to another court. Not a surprise but I didn't notice any headlines about Meloni bragging about it.
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