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NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 18 2022 12:45 GMT
#3821
Thanks JimmiC, I didn't need to respond to that one.

On other news, these back of the napkin calculations are illuminating even if I wouldn't rely on them much.

Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 13:40:39
August 18 2022 12:47 GMT
#3822
Erdogan and Zelensky have finally met.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 18 2022 14:11 GMT
#3823
Another explosion reported in Crimea.



Also conflicting reports on the situation in Pisky, or at least half of it has fallen to Russian forces. Very heavy fighting still ongoing.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 15:54:57
August 18 2022 15:54 GMT
#3824
On August 18 2022 23:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another explosion reported in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/status/1560248599874867201

Also conflicting reports on the situation in Pisky, or at least half of it has fallen to Russian forces. Very heavy fighting still ongoing.

Pisky was taken on Monday, AFU front positions are now along the Donetsk CIrcular Highway right to the west of Pisky.
DPR forces are currently advancing to the south-west through the fields in Krasnohorivka direction, probably to press Mariinka from the north, to either surround, or force AFU out. It's both neccesary to prevent AFU shelling of Donetsk, and to restore water supply (a lot of water to Donetsk comes from the lakes and water reservoirs to the west, so Donetsk for a few months have being facing severe water shortages).
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 18 2022 15:59 GMT
#3825
On August 19 2022 00:54 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2022 23:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another explosion reported in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/status/1560248599874867201

Also conflicting reports on the situation in Pisky, or at least half of it has fallen to Russian forces. Very heavy fighting still ongoing.

Pisky was taken on Monday, AFU front positions are now along the Donetsk CIrcular Highway right to the west of Pisky.
DPR forces are currently advancing to the south-west through the fields in Krasnohorivka direction, probably to press Mariinka from the north, to either surround, or force AFU out. It's both neccesary to prevent AFU shelling of Donetsk, and to restore water supply (a lot of water to Donetsk comes from the lakes and water reservoirs to the west, so Donetsk for a few months have being facing severe water shortages).


That's not reliable.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
August 18 2022 16:14 GMT
#3826
On August 19 2022 00:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2022 00:54 Ardias wrote:
On August 18 2022 23:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another explosion reported in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/status/1560248599874867201

Also conflicting reports on the situation in Pisky, or at least half of it has fallen to Russian forces. Very heavy fighting still ongoing.

Pisky was taken on Monday, AFU front positions are now along the Donetsk CIrcular Highway right to the west of Pisky.
DPR forces are currently advancing to the south-west through the fields in Krasnohorivka direction, probably to press Mariinka from the north, to either surround, or force AFU out. It's both neccesary to prevent AFU shelling of Donetsk, and to restore water supply (a lot of water to Donetsk comes from the lakes and water reservoirs to the west, so Donetsk for a few months have being facing severe water shortages).


That's not reliable.

Advance SW of Peski is, even with video and exact coordinates
https://t.me/rybar/37374
AFU unit being forced to retreat by inicindeary and mortar fire. Coordinates are in the bottom of the post.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 18 2022 18:14 GMT
#3827
On August 19 2022 01:14 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2022 00:59 Ghanburighan wrote:
On August 19 2022 00:54 Ardias wrote:
On August 18 2022 23:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another explosion reported in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/CasualArtyFan/status/1560248599874867201

Also conflicting reports on the situation in Pisky, or at least half of it has fallen to Russian forces. Very heavy fighting still ongoing.

Pisky was taken on Monday, AFU front positions are now along the Donetsk CIrcular Highway right to the west of Pisky.
DPR forces are currently advancing to the south-west through the fields in Krasnohorivka direction, probably to press Mariinka from the north, to either surround, or force AFU out. It's both neccesary to prevent AFU shelling of Donetsk, and to restore water supply (a lot of water to Donetsk comes from the lakes and water reservoirs to the west, so Donetsk for a few months have being facing severe water shortages).


That's not reliable.

Advance SW of Peski is, even with video and exact coordinates
https://t.me/rybar/37374
AFU unit being forced to retreat by inicindeary and mortar fire. Coordinates are in the bottom of the post.


Sorry, Russians have been lying for decades about everything, including doctoring videos. I'm done wasting time debunking this shit. Try again in ten years.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 18 2022 18:49 GMT
#3828
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 18 2022 20:32 GMT
#3829
Apparently an airfield/ammo dump has blown up inside Russia.


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands685 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-18 21:08:59
August 18 2022 21:00 GMT
#3830
This was posted on Dutch news. Since your Dutch might be rusty, and the Google translation of the article might not be 100% accurate, I added a link to The Guardian that portrays the same information

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/they-turned-us-into-savages-russian-soldier-describes-start-of-ukraine-invasion

"Confirms" that the state of Russian army is deplorable. I'm hoping it's true, but I consider all news biased by now :S

(edit) Also: thanks for all the people chipping in with news/background/arguments from all angles. This thread has been a valuable source of information since day 1.
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17843 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 08:40:45
August 19 2022 08:32 GMT
#3831
It's surprising that media don't really cover some interesting conclusions you can make from Ukraine's tactics recently. Maybe because it'll be of more interest to people who like to geek about technical military stuff.

Apparently the big success of HIMARS so far is because of joint operations. Airplanes firing AGM-88 HARM rockets to disable enemy radar systems followed by HIMARS strikes.

What's interesting about it is that UA doesn't have an airplane compatible with AGM-88 HARM so some news outlets are speculating that NATO aircraft are secretly helping them out.

I think the truth is however that they have MIG-29 modified to be able to carry those rockets. Polish army has proposed such modifications several years ago and were working on it in cooperation with Israel. There's a possibility that Poland or Slovakia has modified MIG-29s for UA. It's also worth noting that along with HIMARS Ukraine has also received some MIG-29s in parts from the US (which could've already been modified for AGM-88).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
August 19 2022 09:33 GMT
#3832
This story from a Russian airborne soldier from Crimea seems to confirm many of the stories we hear about corruption, disorganizing, mindless adherence to form and process within the Russian army:


Here is the original, maybe some of our Russian speakers can comment on it:
https://vk.com/doc365182800_642173669?hash=zLwYz2QqaHsbdkgClQztGB1ofsqk04JqwwdHDhiVy60&dl=WJ3c0dtpmjLZ2edp4LHBYWjJ282qlH9Sd1AyPRKvHcz

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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 19 2022 09:42 GMT
#3833
Same thing was in Finnish papers yesterday or Wednesday. Reading it is absolutely wild, despite none of it being actually new. We speak of propaganda and misinformation and whatnot, but it still is hard to understand how it manifests on the field, how it can take weeks for Russian troops to understand (if they care/are willing to) that they are not defending Russia but attacking another country in a unilateral act of aggression.
I play children's card games and watch a lot of dota, CS and HS
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2022 13:59 GMT
#3834
Western Intel on the Saky Airfield losses.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 14:25:01
August 19 2022 14:23 GMT
#3835
On August 19 2022 22:59 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Western Intel on the Saky Airfield losses.

https://twitter.com/EJ_Burrows/status/1560592578847813635

I guess "8 planes" ain't sound that catchy. But technically correct, Black sea Fleet has only one aviation regiment directly in their structure (43rd Naval Attack), and while by default it should have 24 planes (2 squadrons of 12), more likely it had less active planes after 5 months of war.

But it's heavy blow nonetheless. Black Sea Fleet commander was removed from office few days later.

On August 19 2022 18:33 zatic wrote:
This story from a Russian airborne soldier from Crimea seems to confirm many of the stories we hear about corruption, disorganizing, mindless adherence to form and process within the Russian army:
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1560022545356791810

Here is the original, maybe some of our Russian speakers can comment on it:
https://vk.com/doc365182800_642173669?hash=zLwYz2QqaHsbdkgClQztGB1ofsqk04JqwwdHDhiVy60&dl=WJ3c0dtpmjLZ2edp4LHBYWjJ282qlH9Sd1AyPRKvHcz


Interesting read, I'll definetly give a wider commentary later on the matter.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 14:57:08
August 19 2022 14:55 GMT
#3836
In a call between Macron and Putin it was agreed to have IAEA inspectors visit the Nuclear Power plant.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2022 16:47 GMT
#3837
Maxar has just posted images of the Zaporizhya power plant... no signs of damage that is claimed by Russia.



Swedish fighter in Ukraine:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 19 2022 17:12 GMT
#3838
--- Nuked ---
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2022 17:33 GMT
#3839
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation618 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-08-19 18:16:24
August 19 2022 18:09 GMT
#3840
On August 20 2022 02:12 JimmiC wrote:
@ardias have you tried the new starbucks or mcdonalds? Are they basically copies of the originals or are they same look but different food? How does the product compare? And did they keep the names of the burgers/coffees similar, like a is a big mac no like a big Vlad or something?

Or if we have others in Russia they could comment as well. I've seen pictures of the branding and stuff and it looks the same but I know they had to source different inputs so I'm guessing the product is different.

Most of the products are the same, at least seem so visually. Names changed, all of them. Coca-cola, for example, now goes in 10 different brands or so (guess each production plant decided to take their own route). Big Tasty is now Big Special, Royal is now Grand and so on. McDonalds itself is called "Vkusno i tochka" - "Tasty and that's it".

As for what is inside - didn't try it yet, I generally prefer our local pizzerias and burger cafes (there is one from Krasnodar with very tasty craft burgers). Regarding international ones - I guess I'll go try them a bit (in a week or two, I'm in self-isolation now due to wife being sick with Covid), but my opinion may be valid only on KFC and Burger King, as I was there somewhat recently, others I've never liked before anyway.
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