EPTRusso-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 171
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Poland9269 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
On July 24 2022 02:18 maybenexttime wrote: There were no sanctions on any agricultural products. Stop spreading Russian propaganda. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-13/us-quietly-urges-russia-fertilizer-deals-to-unlock-grain-trade The EU and the US have built exemptions into their restrictions on doing business with Russia to allow trade in fertilizer, of which Moscow is a key global supplier. But many shippers, banks and insurers have been staying away from the trade out of fear they could inadvertently fall afoul of the rules. Russian fertilizer exports are down 24% this year. US officials, surprised by the extent of the caution, are in the seemingly paradoxical position of looking for ways to boost them. The Kremlin has called on the US provide assurances to buyers and shippers of its fertilizer and grain that they aren’t subject to sanctions, suggesting it’s a condition of any steps to unblock shipments of Ukrainian farm products now. stop making Trump win again.“For Russia, it’s really important that U.S. authorities send a clear signal that these deals are permitted and in the interest of global food security and they shouldn’t refuse to carry them out,” said Ivan Timofeev, a sanctions specialist at the Kremlin-founded Russian International Affairs Council. Edit:@Sent. - they've been negotiating the deal for couple months at least. | ||
KwarK
United States43480 Posts
On July 24 2022 02:38 xM(Z wrote: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-13/us-quietly-urges-russia-fertilizer-deals-to-unlock-grain-trade stop making Trump win again. Edit:@Sent. - they've been negotiating the deal for couple months at least. I don’t get it. You quoted a source that explicitly refuted your point. | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5298 Posts
On July 24 2022 02:42 KwarK wrote: what was my point?.I don’t get it. You quoted a source that explicitly refuted your point. the sanctions can be implied too. more Edits: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/eu-sanctions-tweak-unblock-russian-oil-deals-with-third-countries-2022-07-22/ BRUSSELS, July 22 (Reuters) - Russian state-owned companies Rosneft and Gazprom will be able to ship oil to third countries under an adjustment of European Union sanctions agreed by member states this week aimed at limiting the risks to global energy security. that is also not the point?. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkey's defence minister said on Saturday Russian officials had told Ankara that Moscow had "nothing to do" with strikes on Ukraine's Odesa port. "In our contact with Russia, the Russians told us that they had absolutely nothing to do with this attack, and that they were examining the issue very closely and in detail," Defence Minister Hulusai Akar said in a statement. "The fact that such an incident took place right after the agreement we made yesterday really worried us," he added. Source | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5740 Posts
On July 24 2022 02:42 KwarK wrote: I don’t get it. You quoted a source that explicitly refuted your point. Explains most of his opinions, doesn't it? ;-) | ||
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Oleo
Netherlands280 Posts
On July 24 2022 03:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So either Russia is lying.... Yes... Its what they do... Always... | ||
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Poland9269 Posts
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On July 24 2022 03:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So either Russia is lying, or they no longer have Command and Control of their armed forces in Ukraine. Source If this official version is true, wouldn't that mean there's a rogue command in the Russian military going against Putin's orders? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22062 Posts
On July 24 2022 04:02 Magic Powers wrote: So, if if its not Russia doing it then they won't complain when the US retaliates against whoever did launch those missiles right?If this official version is true, wouldn't that mean there's a rogue command in the Russian military going against Putin's orders? | ||
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Poland9269 Posts
On July 24 2022 04:02 Magic Powers wrote: If this official version is true, wouldn't that mean there's a rogue command in the Russian military going against Putin's orders? Clearly a Western false flag /s | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11721 Posts
On July 24 2022 04:37 plasmidghost wrote: Absolutely incredible news. If this holds up, how long do y'all think Russia can last in Ukraine? If this is their expenditure at the moment, it can't be past like, September, right? https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1550475250348879873 I think that is an overinterpretation of that statement. Countries can produce a lot of artillery shells if they so desire. On the first day of the battle of Verdun, more than a million artillery shells were fired. Germany and France fired about 200000 shells a day for about 10 months there. Manufacturing probably got more effective in the mean time, but i guess shells also got more complex. Firing tens of thousands of shells daily is something a country can keep up for a long time. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
On July 24 2022 04:37 plasmidghost wrote: Absolutely incredible news. If this holds up, how long do y'all think Russia can last in Ukraine? If this is their expenditure at the moment, it can't be past like, September, right? https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1550475250348879873 Please just let this be true. It has been predicted a few times by some that Russia would lose the capability to continue their war efforts late 2022. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14076 Posts
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Poland9269 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22062 Posts
On July 24 2022 05:01 Sent. wrote: shells can't be stored indefinitely, especially if badly maintained. How many shells they made 40 years ago doesn't have to be very relevant to many they can fire today.I don't understand people expecting the Soviet's Union successor to run out of shells in a few months. | ||
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Poland9269 Posts
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KwarK
United States43480 Posts
On July 24 2022 04:37 plasmidghost wrote: Absolutely incredible news. If this holds up, how long do y'all think Russia can last in Ukraine? If this is their expenditure at the moment, it can't be past like, September, right? https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/status/1550475250348879873 Running out of smart munitions just means you start hitting a bunch of things near your target. You keep firing but more civilians die. | ||
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0x64
Finland4601 Posts
Let's hope something happens before Navalny dies. | ||
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