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Billyboy
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Jankisa
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On September 17 2025 22:47 Billyboy wrote: So, what I have been saying is that no negotiators have died, but that 5 members of "Hamas Leadership" and one member of Qatar security service have died. That is what your sources confirm. So maybe go re read what I've posted, without the made up angry shit in your head and get back to me. Talks have been pointless for a long time and the main players know it. This is why we have multiple agreements made by negotiators only to have nothing actually happen. Israel's position is that Hamas can not remain in power in Gaza, no matter the cost to the Gazan civilians or their infrastructure. Hamas's position is that they give no fucks about the Gazan civilians or their infrastructure and they are not giving up power or even willing to pretend that they are not solely focused the destruction of Israel and death of all its people, Jews, Christians, wrong think Muslims, atheists whoever. And well this thread has been focused on how Israel bombing some Hamas members in Qatar is a obvious sign that they don't want peace with Hamas, some how it was completely missed that Hamas organizing and executing a terror attack in Jerusalem against only civilian targets is an obvious sign that they do not want peace. You are hilarious man. The quote says "leaders involved in negotiations" but according to your obsessive lack of intellectual humility and pathological inability to admit you were wrong those are not negotiators. Then you go on to just regurgitate Nethyanahu's talking points. There was a 3 phase ceasefire in which phase 3 was the end of war and release of all hostages. Israel signed it, 2 phases were done, people were being fed and not bombed until Israel unilaterally broke that. So, you are, once again, lying to play defense for Israel. I know you won't read it or acknowledge it, bu this is not really disputed by anyone. Hamas is in such a state that it's basically a (by now) scattered collection of terrorist cells, one of them executing a terrorist attack is absolutely expected and a direct result of the insane violence IDF is perpetrating on Gaza and the West bank. Get a grip man. | ||
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Billyboy
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On September 18 2025 04:23 Jankisa wrote: You are hilarious man. The quote says "leaders involved in negotiations" but according to your obsessive lack of intellectual humility and pathological inability to admit you were wrong those are not negotiators. Then you go on to just regurgitate Nethyanahu's talking points. There was a 3 phase ceasefire in which phase 3 was the end of war and release of all hostages. Israel signed it, 2 phases were done, people were being fed and not bombed until Israel unilaterally broke that. So, you are, once again, lying to play defense for Israel. I know you won't read it or acknowledge it, bu this is not really disputed by anyone. Hamas is in such a state that it's basically a (by now) scattered collection of terrorist cells, one of them executing a terrorist attack is absolutely expected and a direct result of the insane violence IDF is perpetrating on Gaza and the West bank. Get a grip man. None of that is opposed to anything that I have said. Had I said Israel wants peace with Hamas, but it is all Hamas fault I could see your argument having merit. But of course I've never actually said that. I'm kind of curious to what you think I've written, but considering it is all written down and if you were at all interested in an actual discussion you would re read it and Please quote me saying one of Netanyahu's talking points (but this will be the 10+ time that when you can't because you just keep making shit up and then believing it even after you can't), that should be hilarious, since I don't know what they are, and my comments are not remotely pro Israel to anyone that is actually pro-Israel. They might be to people who want to see Israel destroyed from river to sea. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia771 Posts
Other things you haven't acknowledged is the fact that you said they weren't targeting negotiators and when I pointed out the absurdity of calming that when I quoted you "leaders involved in negotiations" being targeted by Israel you, once again, ignored that. They might be to people who want to see Israel destroyed from river to sea. Oh, look, one straight out of the Nethyanahu talking points. Hamas's position is that they give no fucks about the Gazan civilians or their infrastructure and they are not giving up power or even willing to pretend that they are not solely focused the destruction of Israel and death of all its people, Jews, Christians, wrong think Muslims, atheists whoever. Look, another one. Hamas agreed to stop hostilities and release hostages. You and Israelis don't care, you just keep quoting stuff from way before October 7th that has nothing to do with stopping this war. This is regurgitating Nethyanahu's words. See, it's very easy to read and reply to what other people tell you. Unfortunately, your fragile ego doesn't allow you to admit that you are blatantly wrong. You came to this thread and started saying dumb shit, got called out and then started your usual passive aggressive bs, deflections, pretending I'm talking about something else + some sprinkled in Israeli talking points. How original. | ||
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Billyboy
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On September 18 2025 04:56 Jankisa wrote: How fun, I just said you will not acknowledge that talks haven't been pointless, there was a ceasefire and Israel broke it and you just went right on to do exactly that. Other things you haven't acknowledged is the fact that you said they weren't targeting negotiators and when I pointed out the absurdity of calming that when I quoted you "leaders involved in negotiations" being targeted by Israel you, once again, ignored that. Oh, look, one straight out of the Nethyanahu talking points. Look, another one. Hamas agreed to stop hostilities and release hostages. You and Israelis don't care, you just keep quoting stuff from way before October 7th that has nothing to do with stopping this war. This is regurgitating Nethyanahu's words. See, it's very easy to read and reply to what other people tell you. Unfortunately, your fragile ego doesn't allow you to admit that you are blatantly wrong. You came to this thread and started saying dumb shit, got called out and then started your usual passive aggressive bs, deflections, pretending I'm talking about something else + some sprinkled in Israeli talking points. How original. Those are not Netanyahu's words, they are mine and I've yet to see evidence that it is not true. Can you provide evidence that it is true? Or show that they are Netanyahu's words? What do you believe Hamas is about? What have I gotten wrong? I do get called out for imaginary shit, and I've been overly respectful to you up to this point given all your personal attacks. I said they didn't kill the negotiators and they were not harmed. Which is true. I do think (without direct evidence) that Israel hit their intended targets. They have not missed many in Lebanon or Iran. I've said it before that I believe they were sending a message that they can and will hit anyone anywhere. If you actually took the time to read my posts and what I wrote instead of whatever nonsense you do you would probably have issues with it and then I would be happy to reply. The problem is you just make up shit and then expect me to argue it when it isn't even remotely my point. I've tried going down that rabbit hole before but the problem is you just keep coming back believe the shit you made up before no matter how many times it is proven to not exist. You are basically the lefts version of MAGA and impossible to talk to because you are not attached to reality. | ||
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