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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
Slowest day of my life lol, at least we're seamingly ready for when shit goes crazy. | ||
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Slydie
2014 Posts
On March 17 2020 22:27 Nakajin wrote: First day back at work in the human ressources, I work at solving short term lack of personel. Never seen the hospital so staffed in my life, they are canceling all non essential operation so right now there's surplus everywhere and the few overtime we have to give get taken in a flash + on our side many people are comming back to work like me. Slowest day of my life lol, at least we're seamingly ready for when shit goes crazy. If your country is dealing with this right, there is a good chance it won't get crazy at all! | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On March 17 2020 23:16 Slydie wrote: If your country is dealing with this right, there is a good chance it won't get crazy at all! You have no idea what you’re talking about, no expertise to rely on, and continue to muck this thread with awful back of the napkin math that has been thoroughly disputed by numerous other posters who have simply given up trying to argue with you. Your posts are a perfect representation of why the worst is yet to come, so thank you for telegraphing that I guess. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
On March 17 2020 19:32 SK.Testie wrote: You could add this to the thread message at the top so that people don't post the numbers over and over. I'm not dissuading numbers like X amount of deaths or new cases in X or Y region etc. Just so you can get a full list of the stats and each country and whether it is slowing down in X country or ramping up etc. https://www.coronatracker.com/ As far as tracking the numbers, i think this is by far the best resource: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Not sure how they update it so quickly, many times i've seen my country's numbers going up with the right amount, before the national news reports them. it highlights new cases and new deaths (counter resets at 00 GMT), and the tables can be reorganized by nr of deaths or nr of active cases etc. For example China is still by far the nr 1 in total cases, and gonna stay up there for a long while, but it's already in 4th place as far as active cases go. Few trends I noticed: Italy updates usually once a day around 6-7 CET, France later than that, while Spanish numbers are coming in increments etc | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24387 Posts
On March 17 2020 23:22 Geo.Rion wrote: As far as tracking the numbers, i think this is by far the best resource: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Not sure how they update it so quickly, many times i've seen my country's numbers going up with the right amount, before the national news reports them. it highlights new cases and new deaths (counter resets at 00 GMT), and the tables can be reorganized by nr of deaths or nr of active cases etc. For example China is still by far the nr 1 in total cases, and gonna stay up there for a long while, but it's already in 4th place as far as active cases go. Few trends I noticed: Italy updates usually once a day around 6-7 CET, France later than that, while Spanish numbers are coming in increments etc US is obviously way under counted with the least tests per million residents last I checked. If 93 dead people are ~1% of our cases that's almost 10k infected as of ~2 weeks ago (presuming they take a while to manifest symptoms and die) before we started any remotely significant social distancing anywhere in the country. That could easily be upwards of 100k by now (which could mean 1000+ dead in a day in a couple weeks) from what I've seen posted here on exponential spread of the virus when unmitigated. If my napkin math is wrong I would welcome a more optimistic outlook. Even half that is pretty devastating though imo. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8201 Posts
On March 17 2020 20:58 evilfatsh1t wrote: most experts and agencies i have seen that are advocating for lockdowns were people in the field of medicine or a related industry. any decision to lockdown a country should be deliberated upon heavily by governments and rightfully so; i doubt youd find many economists etc saying a lockdown is the way to go about this Yeah, that's why when there is a sanitary crisis the people you listen to are the people whose speciality is sanitary problems. Aka, medicine professionals. If your government listens to economists rather than health specialists in the time of the biggest health crisis of modern times, you probably have a fucking horrible government. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On March 17 2020 23:16 Slydie wrote: If your country is dealing with this right, there is a good chance it won't get crazy at all! Hum, with how much the bosses are reorganizing the staff they certainly don't expect it to go away quietly. They should do special programs for student-worker if the schools reopen tho, the summer/weekend staff will help us a lot to especially in elderly day care center. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8201 Posts
On March 18 2020 00:00 Drake wrote: as a german i feel the german numbers are not real ... with so many infected so few deaths, i doesnt give me confidence in my gouverment If there is one government I can't imagine cooking numbers and one leader I expect will treat this crisis with integrity, it's yours. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 17 2020 23:58 Biff The Understudy wrote: Yeah, that's why when there is a sanitary crisis the people you listen to are the people whose speciality is sanitary problems. Aka, medicine professionals. If your government listens to economists rather than health specialists in the time of the biggest health crisis of modern times, you probably have a fucking horrible government. To be honest by that standard I think we all have pretty horrible governments. Not equally so, but nevertheless. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8201 Posts
On March 18 2020 00:07 LegalLord wrote: To be honest by that standard I think we all have pretty horrible governments. Not equally so, but nevertheless. Not really. Most countries have chosen to take otherwise unthinkable economic hurt to prevent the horrific human suffering that would otherwise be coming. Exception made in Europe for Johnson but what would you expect from a guy like that. I feel countries like France or Germany are doing basically everything they can at that point. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24387 Posts
On March 18 2020 00:17 Biff The Understudy wrote: Not really. Most countries have chosen to take otherwise unthinkable economic hurt to prevent the horrific human suffering that would otherwise be coming. Exception made in Europe for Johnson but what would you expect from a guy like that. I feel countries like France or Germany are doing basically everything they can at that point. Spain nationalizing their healthcare providers in response to the crisis is a pretty good example of that. One I hope the US would embrace (but I'm not holding my breath). EDIT: Personal update: Went shopping for some elderly people today and about half the male shoppers (women typically keep theirs in a purse) had pistols on their hip. That's up from about 10% typically. *not scientific data | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
I took the known data and calculated the exponential growth with a Poisson distribution, the numbers for Denmark are terrifying and looks much worse than what media has been telling us. Data suggest Copenhagen is going to be hit big time.  | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 18 2020 00:23 Jek wrote: Our Queen is going to hold a speech for the nation this evening, besides from her yearly new years speech, this is the first time in history she publicly address the nation like so. I took the known data and calculated the exponential growth with a Poisson distribution, the numbers for Denmark are terrifying and looks much worse than what media has been telling us. Data suggest Copenhagen is going to be hit big time. Yeah infection models that are normalized to other data from similar situations is downright scary accurate. We don't need to wonder how many will be infected. Once we grab a couple coefficients from existing data, pop it in the model and off we go. Infection models are among the most accurate. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/fk5s6k/there_is_currently_no_traffic_for_the_alex_fraser/ Normally, maps is red for every bridge you see on the picture, and the vast majority of the green is orange/red. We've shut down bars for St. Patricks, and I'm hoping we've flattened the curve to double digits of daily infections. I think the best way to read charts around the issue is to read the total infected : daily new infection ratio. Countries that have prepared well may have similar numbers of total infected to others, but much lower daily infection rates. This is the most optimistic metric for Canada, since we're literally #1 in infection control by this metric. Canada 449+8 The next country on the infection rate list with as many or more total infections is China. Countries with same order-of-magnitude total infections, but with vastly higher infection rates. Finland 322 +44 Japan 876 +43 Portugal 448 +117 I couldn't find a place to compare testing rates, but I think we've effectively shut down enough, early enough, to be slowing it down in Canada in comparison to some other countries. | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
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warding
Portugal2397 Posts
Mar 14 - 3497 Mar 15 - 3590 Mar 16 - 3233 The last day was missing data from a couple of jurisdictions but it shouldn't send it over the average over the three days. If it's not due to some artifact in testing, it may signal a clear inflection point thanks to the isolation measures. In Portugal the general mood is of subservience and everyone is taking the lockdown extremely seriously. Yesterday a friend of mine was walking home from work and a car speeded towards where he was on the street and started honking. I can see the isolation having a strong effect on contagion. I hope we're able to contain this thing and move towards a more South Korean approach of mass testing and surgical quaranteeining. Otherwise the economy is going to be run into the ground. | ||
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TT1
Canada10095 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
De Blasio is debating a shelter in place warning. | ||
KwarK
United States44379 Posts
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