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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 01 2018 01:59 GMT
#19261
The NPR story about don jr turned out to be false. This will give the right the chance to use it as a distraction from the much more significant news contained in cohens testimony.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 01 2018 04:53 GMT
#19262
George H. W. Bush has died. May he rest in peace.

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 01 2018 14:29 GMT
#19263
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Zee_Kyle
Profile Joined December 2018
1 Post
December 01 2018 16:51 GMT
#19264
On December 01 2018 13:53 plasmidghost wrote:
George H. W. Bush has died. May he rest in peace.

https://twitter.com/jgm41/status/1068728578890653696


He was a warmongering Neocon that caused the suffering of untold amounts of people.
Rest in piss.

User was banned for this post.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45022 Posts
December 01 2018 18:07 GMT
#19265
On December 02 2018 01:51 Zee_Kyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2018 13:53 plasmidghost wrote:
George H. W. Bush has died. May he rest in peace.

https://twitter.com/jgm41/status/1068728578890653696


He was a warmongering Neocon that caused the suffering of untold amounts of people.
Rest in piss.

User was banned for this post.


It's probably in everyone's best interest if we just ignore GHWB's death in this thread. It'll minimize the amount of red font we see at the end of certain posts.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
December 01 2018 19:22 GMT
#19266
We should ignore topics that people care about to avoid them getting actioned for it. Real hot take there.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8156 Posts
December 01 2018 19:25 GMT
#19267
On December 02 2018 04:22 Sermokala wrote:
We should ignore topics that people care about to avoid them getting actioned for it. Real hot take there.


What could his death possibly bring to the conversation other than either "rip" or "He was a shit president!"? It's best to just let it lay
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 01 2018 19:31 GMT
#19268
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-01 21:34:52
December 01 2018 21:25 GMT
#19269
On December 02 2018 04:25 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 04:22 Sermokala wrote:
We should ignore topics that people care about to avoid them getting actioned for it. Real hot take there.


What could his death possibly bring to the conversation other than either "rip" or "He was a shit president!"? It's best to just let it lay

People might not speak ill of the recently deceased former leader of the country?

I mean should we have a policy of ignoring when people die beacuse people can't be expected to have basic manners and decency?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 01 2018 22:14 GMT
#19270
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
December 01 2018 22:53 GMT
#19271
On December 02 2018 06:25 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 04:25 Excludos wrote:
On December 02 2018 04:22 Sermokala wrote:
We should ignore topics that people care about to avoid them getting actioned for it. Real hot take there.


What could his death possibly bring to the conversation other than either "rip" or "He was a shit president!"? It's best to just let it lay

People might not speak ill of the recently deceased former leader of the country?

I mean should we have a policy of ignoring when people die beacuse people can't be expected to have basic manners and decency?


I mean, what does it even have to do with politics really? He hasn't been President for decades. Unless you're going to somehow tie his policy decisions into what is happening today, what does posting "RIP" or "he sucked" accomplish? I'm basically just re-wording what was already said. I just don't think it's a topic that belongs in this thread because it won't have any content.
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Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
December 01 2018 23:04 GMT
#19272
The passing of a former president definitely worthy of this thread, Frankly I cant believe this is even up for debate. The fact that some people wont be able to hold back their jubilee or hatred is pretty unreal, no one is getting "red font" for being respectful.

RIP George H. W. Bush.



"We didnt listen"
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
December 01 2018 23:08 GMT
#19273
So, a less talked about election issue from the midterms :
in North Carolina, according to a number of affidavits, several from elderly black voters, a member of the republican campaign coordinated an effort to go door-to-door in a democrat-leaning county, posing as election official, and asking to hand over absentee ballots, even if blank. Then, he would have filled in or discarded them.
In addition, it seems there is a unusually large number of absentee ballots in that county, with over 96% of them going to the republican candidate, while the usual win margin is around 65% from what I read previously (can't remember where).

The republican is leading by around 900 votes, but the board is refusing to certify the result.

For all the republicans crying about voter fraud, now this one seems to have some basis. And it's not coming from who they would love it to :-D

WaPo Source
NoiR
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-02 00:31:56
December 02 2018 00:19 GMT
#19274
Yes, there's definitely something strange about NC09. The strangeness is pretty obvious since most allegations of intentional efforts to conduct electoral fraud can be easily explained, explanations generally being that conspiracy theorists don't understand how elections (more more specifically, provisional and absentee ballots) or whoever running the elections (Florida) is just incompetent. But Republicans *improving* in Bladen vs. the 2016 general election flies against all logic, especially when all the surrounding counties all had shifts towards the Democratic party.

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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 02 2018 01:04 GMT
#19275
On December 02 2018 08:08 Nouar wrote:
So, a less talked about election issue from the midterms :
in North Carolina, according to a number of affidavits, several from elderly black voters, a member of the republican campaign coordinated an effort to go door-to-door in a democrat-leaning county, posing as election official, and asking to hand over absentee ballots, even if blank. Then, he would have filled in or discarded them.
In addition, it seems there is a unusually large number of absentee ballots in that county, with over 96% of them going to the republican candidate, while the usual win margin is around 65% from what I read previously (can't remember where).

The republican is leading by around 900 votes, but the board is refusing to certify the result.

For all the republicans crying about voter fraud, now this one seems to have some basis. And it's not coming from who they would love it to :-D

WaPo Source


Funnily enough, voter fraud only became a concern for Republicans once they took power at the state level during the Obama years. Interesting isn't it?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 02 2018 01:28 GMT
#19276
On December 02 2018 10:04 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 08:08 Nouar wrote:
So, a less talked about election issue from the midterms :
in North Carolina, according to a number of affidavits, several from elderly black voters, a member of the republican campaign coordinated an effort to go door-to-door in a democrat-leaning county, posing as election official, and asking to hand over absentee ballots, even if blank. Then, he would have filled in or discarded them.
In addition, it seems there is a unusually large number of absentee ballots in that county, with over 96% of them going to the republican candidate, while the usual win margin is around 65% from what I read previously (can't remember where).

The republican is leading by around 900 votes, but the board is refusing to certify the result.

For all the republicans crying about voter fraud, now this one seems to have some basis. And it's not coming from who they would love it to :-D

WaPo Source


Funnily enough, voter fraud only became a concern for Republicans once they took power at the state level during the Obama years. Interesting isn't it?


This is election fraud. A republican systematically went around to change the result of the election in their favor. This isn't voters cheating the system and nothing Republicans have been suggesting like voter ID would have fixed this or maybe that's the point.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4862 Posts
December 02 2018 02:27 GMT
#19277
On December 02 2018 10:04 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 08:08 Nouar wrote:
So, a less talked about election issue from the midterms :
in North Carolina, according to a number of affidavits, several from elderly black voters, a member of the republican campaign coordinated an effort to go door-to-door in a democrat-leaning county, posing as election official, and asking to hand over absentee ballots, even if blank. Then, he would have filled in or discarded them.
In addition, it seems there is a unusually large number of absentee ballots in that county, with over 96% of them going to the republican candidate, while the usual win margin is around 65% from what I read previously (can't remember where).

The republican is leading by around 900 votes, but the board is refusing to certify the result.

For all the republicans crying about voter fraud, now this one seems to have some basis. And it's not coming from who they would love it to :-D

WaPo Source


Funnily enough, voter fraud only became a concern for Republicans once they took power at the state level during the Obama years. Interesting isn't it?


where did you get this from?
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
December 02 2018 03:33 GMT
#19278
On December 02 2018 10:28 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 10:04 Doodsmack wrote:
On December 02 2018 08:08 Nouar wrote:
So, a less talked about election issue from the midterms :
in North Carolina, according to a number of affidavits, several from elderly black voters, a member of the republican campaign coordinated an effort to go door-to-door in a democrat-leaning county, posing as election official, and asking to hand over absentee ballots, even if blank. Then, he would have filled in or discarded them.
In addition, it seems there is a unusually large number of absentee ballots in that county, with over 96% of them going to the republican candidate, while the usual win margin is around 65% from what I read previously (can't remember where).

The republican is leading by around 900 votes, but the board is refusing to certify the result.

For all the republicans crying about voter fraud, now this one seems to have some basis. And it's not coming from who they would love it to :-D

WaPo Source


Funnily enough, voter fraud only became a concern for Republicans once they took power at the state level during the Obama years. Interesting isn't it?


This is election fraud. A republican systematically went around to change the result of the election in their favor. This isn't voters cheating the system and nothing Republicans have been suggesting like voter ID would have fixed this or maybe that's the point.


The quote is a bit off, but the sentiment is dead on.


“I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/stalin-vote-count-quote/

Voter fraud has never changed a damn thing a may only arguably exist beyond double digits over the last several decades. But election fraud, oh yeah, that one is real. And in NC it really happened and flipped the result. Hell, Paul Ryan and Trump were calling for ending counting of the votes on election night because they were head. The nominal heads of the Republican party are opposed to counting every vote if they think they are losing. But I am sure our resident Republicans will pretend they don't share the views of the people they voted for and will continue to vote for.


We were only down 26 seats the night of the election and three weeks later, we lost basically every California race,’’ Ryan said Thursday. “This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.”

In part due to mail-in and provisional ballots that delivered the margin of victory to Democratic challengers in a handful of seats, California’s Republican delegation appears to have been slashed in half — in the new Congress, Republicans are likely to hold just seven of the state’s 53 House seats, the party’s lowest number since the 1940’s.

Ryan’s statements drew a sharp rebuke from California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, who said Thursday that “it is bizarre that Paul Ryan cannot grasp basic voting rights protections.”

Padilla, a Democrat who oversees the elections process in a state with 19 million registered voters, told POLITICO that “our elections in California are structured so that every eligible citizen can easily register, and every registered voter can easily cast their ballot.”

That concept, he said, “[might be] strange for Speaker Ryan, who comes from Wisconsin,’’ but Padilla added, “I’m happy to walk him through the bottom line.”


https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/29/california-2018-midterm-elections-results-voting-republicans-1031072
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
December 02 2018 04:28 GMT
#19279
That NC story is crazy with how brazen it is. Who investigates election fraud like that? I haven't heard of a case like that
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
December 02 2018 10:30 GMT
#19280
On December 02 2018 08:04 Taelshin wrote:
The passing of a former president definitely worthy of this thread, Frankly I cant believe this is even up for debate. The fact that some people wont be able to hold back their jubilee or hatred is pretty unreal, no one is getting "red font" for being respectful.

RIP George H. W. Bush.





Gonna be some red flying around here when Clinton finally goes.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
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