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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20321 Posts
edit: ah i see, there's one scheduled in my town for the weekend. They're ALL scheduled to start today, 5pm. Some particularly anti-democracy people had an organized effort to post or take ownership of many of the events and then cancel them or change the time to the wrong time after the protests were called in an attempt to confuse people and lessen the impact of the protests. ----- https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/crowds-are-gathering-in-times-square-for-protect-mueller-rally-sessions-new-york/ Now it's picking up some steam https://twitter.com/hashtag/ProtectMueller #1 trending on twitter, lots of pics and videos ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/CkIwse3.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/qxbx8Cl.jpg) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/rbS0HcH.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/GqkCJvT.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/4hSj9MR.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/YCx6X3Z.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/BbrkpDz.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/5eNv3sH.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/HnQGePe.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/7KOayV6.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/F7SOnJz.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/XkUMgor.jpg) | ||
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farvacola
United States18838 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20321 Posts
Figured out the times square thing, they started to march somewhere else after a while. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15724 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
If AZ and FL break for the Democrats, the most favorable Senate map in a century will have basically broken even for the party it favors. But the damaging being done right now is going to stay a while. It’s hard to come back from people claiming the elections are rigged. Edit: He filed a lawsuit to stop the votes from being counted. They have not certified the results and he filed a lawsuit. They didn’t find ballots, the counting just isn’t finished. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
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Introvert
United States4862 Posts
On November 09 2018 13:50 Womwomwom wrote: Sinema has a good chance of pulling ahead based on the location and type of ballots remaining but I doubt Nelson or Gillium are going pull ahead with the Cuban vote going for the Republican candidates so disproportionately. Dunno why Scott (or Rubio) are really getting so upset and preemptively assuming vote rigging, they've already reached the point where there has to be a recount and they're probably still going to win said recount. last i read on arizona the last dump was Sinema's good one, the rest should be e-day ballots, which is prob good for mcsally, depending on where exactly they are from in Maricopa. From what I've seen no one knows exactly where they are from, though, so it's in the air. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Most times they'll also do anything they can to prevent an actual assessment of it so that they can keep the chip in their pocket (e.g. McCrory in 2016). | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On November 09 2018 13:53 Introvert wrote: last i read on arizona the last dump was Sinema's good one, the rest should be e-day ballots, which is prob good for mcsally, depending on where exactly they are from in Maricopa. From what I've seen no one knows exactly where they are from, though, so it's in the air. It isn't just Maricopa left to count, its also Pima if I'm not wrong. If I were to choose between the two, I'd rather be Sinema than McSally. | ||
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Introvert
United States4862 Posts
On November 09 2018 14:26 Womwomwom wrote: It isn't just Maricopa left to count, its also Pima if I'm not wrong. If I were to choose between the two, I'd rather be Sinema than McSally. there was at least one pima drop earlier today, and there are still ~345k votes out in Maricopa. I'd always prefer to have the lead, though. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15724 Posts
On November 09 2018 14:33 Introvert wrote: there was at least one pima drop earlier today, and there are still ~345k votes out in Maricopa. I'd always prefer to have the lead, though. Maricopa went 49 to Trump and 45 Clinton, as seen here https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/arizona/ Not to say I am contradicting you. Just adding context. | ||
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ReditusSum
79 Posts
I'm not saying it's rigged, but it does seem awful lucky for Democrats that they always manage to find tens of thousands of votes whenever the election is close. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18114 Posts
On November 09 2018 16:52 ReditusSum wrote: Just out of curiosity when was the last time a Republican lost on election night and then won five days later? Bush II won on the night and won the recount, so that one doesn't even quite count. I'm not saying it's rigged, but it does seem awful lucky for Democrats that they always manage to find tens of thousands of votes whenever the election is close. I dunno. When was the last time *anybody* did that? I'd assume it's pretty rare for a recount to go the other way from the initial one. But it's worth doing to ensure no mistakes were made. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12323 Posts
On November 09 2018 16:52 ReditusSum wrote: Just out of curiosity when was the last time a Republican lost on election night and then won five days later? Bush II won on the night and won the recount, so that one doesn't even quite count. I'm not saying it's rigged, but it does seem awful lucky for Democrats that they always manage to find tens of thousands of votes whenever the election is close. Not sure what's so lucky about it. Whether it's a conspiracy or not (it's not), it would have been better for the votes to be already counted with the others. | ||
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ReditusSum
79 Posts
On November 09 2018 16:56 Acrofales wrote: I dunno. When was the last time *anybody* did that? I'd assume it's pretty rare for a recount to go the other way from the initial one. But it's worth doing to ensure no mistakes were made. For recounts it looks like it only happened 3 times in the last 2 decades: Al Frankon - Minn. -2008 (Democrat) Thomas Salmon -Vermont -2006 (Democrat, switched to Republican in 2009) Christine Gregoire -Washington -2004 (Democrat) Harder to track down the "couple of days later" wins, but off the top of my head I can think of one: Dan Bongino (Republican) was ahead in Maryland 6 on Election night 2014, concedes three days later. Just wondering if anyone had an example of it going the other way. A Republican loses on Election night, but what-do-you-know there are still tens of thousands of outstanding votes from a Republican stronghold precinct/district/area and then three days later he wins. | ||
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pmh
1366 Posts
Acosta could sue the white house for smear I think or no? | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On November 09 2018 18:22 pmh wrote: If the white house did doctor that vid from cnn then they crossed a big red line. Its been pretty big in the news over here. Acosta could sue the white house for smear I think or no? You'd have to prove the White House didn't believe that the video was true, I think, and that's virtually impossible at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them took an insanity plea if put on the stand and, looking at the last two years, any judge in the land just shrugs and says 'Yeah, that makes sense'. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18114 Posts
On November 09 2018 18:41 iamthedave wrote: You'd have to prove the White House didn't believe that the video was true, I think, and that's virtually impossible at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if half of them took an insanity plea if put on the stand and, looking at the last two years, any judge in the land just shrugs and says 'Yeah, that makes sense'. Seems to me that all you'd need to prove is that the video the white house put out was doctored (and therefore a falsehood deliberately perpetrated). I guess you'd also have to show that it was someone within the white house who doctored the video, but given that they are, insofar as we know, the source, that seems quite simple. My main issue, however, with the "proof" so far, is that it's like 2 or 3 dropped frames, which could simply be an encoding issue, and therefore a rather unfortunate accident, rather than a deliberate attempt at making Acosta look bad. | ||
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