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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2018 16:17 GMT
#18401
Call me paranoid if you will, but I feel like the Russian propaganda bots are deeply rooted in reddit already. Most people there just assume that all the Russian propaganda that gets pushed is pro-Trump, but the goal of Russia is to fracture the US, so they don't care who they're pushing propaganda for, they just want people to be outraged
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 16:22 GMT
#18402
I don’t think that is being paranoid at all. I think any service that relies on crowd sourced moderation is going to have a problem with bots and nations like Russia trying to manipulate it. Not just Reddit. I’m sure Steam and Twitter have the exact same problem. I don’t really get people who use sites like reddit as a source of news.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 16:57 GMT
#18403
An update on the notorious RBG: she is fine and doing work in the hospital because she is a Supreme Court Justice and that job is really hard. The best quote from the article is here:



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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 09 2018 17:11 GMT
#18404
i think RBG will be dead before 2020
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 17:13 GMT
#18405
I think Trump will die in office before 2020. I have nothing to back this up, but it could happen.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-09 17:19:23
November 09 2018 17:17 GMT
#18406
On November 10 2018 02:11 IgnE wrote:
i think RBG will be dead before 2020


Perhaps, but if it happens in 2020 then Grassley (and at least one other Republican Senator) has already said he would not consider a Trump nominee in a Presidential election year.

Obviously you can never really trust the word of a Republican Senator in this day and age, but I actually take him at his word here since it seems to be an issue of judiciary committee pride to not be so blatantly hypocritical when their entire argument for Kavanagh was "this isnt a Presidential election year!"

Also, I agree with Plansix. Trump is probably in worse shape than her health wise (despite what his lying doctor says). Honestly im surprised the stress hasn't made him croak already. I guess living in his own fantasy land of alternate facts helps alleviate a lot of stress.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
November 09 2018 17:23 GMT
#18407
On November 10 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
I think Trump will die in office before 2020. I have nothing to back this up, but it could happen.

He can't live to be 200 if he dies next year, so we know you're wrong on this one.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
November 09 2018 17:29 GMT
#18408
Let's not forget that Chief Justice Roberts has suffered two seizures (that we know about), one of which led to his falling some 5-10 feet off a ledge, and that he thus fits the diagnostic criteria for epilepsy.

That is not to say that he'll keel over and die any moment, rather that health predictions are tough nuts to crack.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-09 17:52:49
November 09 2018 17:46 GMT
#18409
People who receive proper medical care live much longer than the proletariat we are used to living among.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 09 2018 18:26 GMT
#18410
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 09 2018 18:32 GMT
#18411
paul allen and steve jobs both died of cancer. in job's case, it was also stupidity.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 09 2018 18:35 GMT
#18412
Hopefully this constitutes criminal activity. Certainly if Cohens actions were criminal, we now know that trump committed the same crimes. This is the type of ammo Democrats need to impeach. Now they just need some tax crimes and obstruction.

Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
November 09 2018 18:38 GMT
#18413
On November 10 2018 03:32 ticklishmusic wrote:
paul allen and steve jobs both died of cancer. in job's case, it was also stupidity.


Jobs still lived for what, 7 years with his cancer? There are plenty of people who discover and die of cancer within a year. There's a good chance being unethically wealthy still helped a lot.
Logo
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8162 Posts
November 09 2018 18:42 GMT
#18414
On November 10 2018 03:26 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2018 02:13 Plansix wrote:
I think Trump will die in office before 2020. I have nothing to back this up, but it could happen.


Maybe, when I was watching his Rally the thing that kept jumping out to me is wow he is big. Like way bigger than I remember, he is packing on some serious pounds. This combined with stress it wouldn't be unthinkable. The rich tend to live long, but money didn't save Paul Allen or Steve Jobs so you never know.


No worries. He'll have a much stricter diet soon consisting of mostly bread and water.. (if/when karma comes around at least. She's been procrastinating a lot lately)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 09 2018 18:45 GMT
#18415
On November 10 2018 03:38 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2018 03:32 ticklishmusic wrote:
paul allen and steve jobs both died of cancer. in job's case, it was also stupidity.


Jobs still lived for what, 7 years with his cancer? There are plenty of people who discover and die of cancer within a year. There's a good chance being unethically wealthy still helped a lot.


jobs was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and got really fucking lucky that it turned out to be treatable. but he ignored his doctors and decided to try to cure himself with fruit juice. so the cancer that could have been knocked out with modern medicine grew until it wasn't. he realized that too late, and it was basically palliative care from there on out. sure he got the best palliative care out there, but if he hadn't been a dumbass hippie he likely would still be alive today.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2018 19:01 GMT
#18416
On November 10 2018 03:35 Doodsmack wrote:
Hopefully this constitutes criminal activity. Certainly if Cohens actions were criminal, we now know that trump committed the same crimes. This is the type of ammo Democrats need to impeach. Now they just need some tax crimes and obstruction.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1060961261800841219

Removal through impeachment is a pipe dream. They need 66 votes in the senate to be successful. This is not the Senate of the 1970s, its just not going to happen. The only hope is that the majority of the public supports impeachment by the time we get to 2020.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
November 09 2018 19:03 GMT
#18417
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Kyadytim
Profile Joined March 2009
United States886 Posts
November 09 2018 19:34 GMT
#18418
Impeaching Trump would not substantially change most of the terrible shit the administration is doing, and would allow Pence to repeat Ford's move of pardoning the President for all of his crimes. I'd much rather see Trump removed at the ballot box and prosecuted for any crimes he's committed.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 09 2018 19:50 GMT
#18419
On November 10 2018 02:29 farvacola wrote:
Let's not forget that Chief Justice Roberts has suffered two seizures (that we know about), one of which led to his falling some 5-10 feet off a ledge, and that he thus fits the diagnostic criteria for epilepsy.

That is not to say that he'll keel over and die any moment, rather that health predictions are tough nuts to crack.


we know quite a lot about RBG and the life insurance companies probably have a pretty low estimate for her mortality over/under. no point in mystifying such things with obeisant gesturing towards the impossibility of any prediction
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
November 09 2018 19:59 GMT
#18420
I dunno man, vague overtures to viatical predictions as a basis for estimating someone's likely lifespan seem just as mystifying as anything else
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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