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JimmiC
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ticklishmusic
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Florida and recounts, name a more iconic duo. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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IyMoon
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On November 09 2018 05:09 TheTenthDoc wrote: Maybe Florida should just hold a re-election considering they re-enfranchised more than a million people on Tuesday. Sadly I don't think laws get applied retroactively | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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Obviously it'll never happen, I just find it so odd that there was no will/mechanism to vote on something like that before November 6th so that they could actually have a voice in their representation for the next at least 2 years. Who am I kidding, the GOP would be more likely to lose, of course there was no will or mechanism to do it. | ||
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Sermokala
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Plansix
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On November 09 2018 05:37 Sermokala wrote: Thats some pretty heavy mental gymnastics there. The change of the result of a vote should apply in the vote that decided if the change should happen or not, but that it doesn't is the result of one party not wanting the results of a vote applying to said vote and the other party wanting the vote to influence the vote. If it is a runoff election, they people with the restored voting rights to should get to vote if they can register by the runoff election date. The vote to restore their rights for all future elections passed and the runoff would be a future election. But I do not believe Florida does runoff elections, so the point is moot. It takes the mental gymnastics to think otherwise, IMO. | ||
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Sermokala
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On November 09 2018 05:42 Plansix wrote: If it is a runoff election, they people with the restored voting rights to should get to vote if they can register by the runoff election date. The vote to restore their rights for all future elections passed and the runoff would be a future election. But I do not believe Florida does runoff elections, so the point is moot. It takes the mental gymnastics to think otherwise, IMO. But we're not talking about the runoff election we're talking about a recount and a re-election. | ||
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Plansix
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On November 09 2018 05:50 Sermokala wrote: But we're not talking about the runoff election we're talking about a recount and a re-election. TheTenthDoc was talking about holding a new election with the 1.4 million voters. That is what he said. I don’t think he was beings super serious either. | ||
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Sermokala
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On November 09 2018 05:56 Plansix wrote: TheTenthDoc was talking about holding a new election with the 1.4 million voters. That is what he said. I don’t think he was beings super serious either. He said that it wouldn't happen because it wouldn't benefit the Republicans. I can't judge if he's serious or not but I can riff on what he posts. | ||
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Logo
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On November 09 2018 05:25 TheTenthDoc wrote: Obviously it'll never happen, I just find it so odd that there was no will/mechanism to vote on something like that before November 6th so that they could actually have a voice in their representation for the next at least 2 years. Who am I kidding, the GOP would be more likely to lose, of course there was no will or mechanism to do it. To be fair felon disenfranchisement isn't just a GOP thing (though in Florida's case it seems almost certainly targeted and ex-felons is a particularly heinous restriction). Outside of Vermont and Maine every state unfairly restricts the voting rights of people caught up in the US justice system and that includes states that have been Dem controlled for a long time. | ||
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Plansix
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On November 09 2018 05:59 Sermokala wrote: He said that it wouldn't happen because it wouldn't benefit the Republicans. I can't judge if he's serious or not but I can riff on what he posts. In the hypothetical world of a runoff election, I feel confident is saying that DeSantis would file some sort of lawsuit to prevent the newly enfranchised voters from participating. Because that is the type of campaign he ran. | ||
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Sermokala
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On November 09 2018 06:05 Plansix wrote: In the hypothetical world of a runoff election, I feel confident is saying that DeSantis would file some sort of lawsuit to prevent the newly enfranchised voters from participating. Because that is the type of campaign he ran. In the same hypothetical world, I would see merit in that lawsuit depending on how soon the runoff would be and the difficulties of trolling the records for whos now eligible and whos still not eligible. The last thing you'd need in a runnoff election is doubt on the people's ability to vote. | ||
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Plansix
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On November 09 2018 06:15 Sermokala wrote: In the same hypothetical world, I would see merit in that lawsuit depending on how soon the runoff would be and the difficulties of trolling the records for whos now eligible and whos still not eligible. The last thing you'd need in a runnoff election is doubt on the people's ability to vote. It isn't a challenging problem to solve Provisional ballots exist for a reason and Florida already has a system set up for people who move within the state right before the election. | ||
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Gorsameth
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On November 09 2018 06:51 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: There is no way she voluntarily retires for another 2 years.Ginsberg broke several ribs after collapsing in court.Maybe time for her to retire? | ||
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crms
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On November 09 2018 05:31 Mohdoo wrote: This whole Acosta thing is the most obvious distraction from Mueller ever. I am so sad seeing how much attention this is getting. I'd agree if they didn't release doctored footage. With that release this is definitely a major issue and it's pathetic there isn't nonpartisan, unified push back. On November 09 2018 06:51 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Ginsberg broke several ribs after collapsing in court.Maybe time for her to retire? Are you purposefully disingenuous or just copy pasting spin for unreliable sources? She didn't 'collapse in court', she fell in her office some time in the evening hours then went home. She then went to the hospital the next morning. I'd normally shrug off your comment as semantics but given your history I doubt it was a mistake. | ||
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