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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
I wouldn't say that we had a ton of nudity in our household. As a child my parents would assist me with hygiene, and lets face it your gonna reach in and wash the kids hair might as well just get in and wash yours too. At no point was any of this weird or crossed any boundaries. | ||
KwarK
United States43753 Posts
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Hat Trick of Today
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Fleetfeet
Canada2679 Posts
On February 06 2026 12:55 Razyda wrote: Yeah mate, you have showers with your daughter but I am the weird one... ffs Which concept is inextricably linked to sex, for you? Showering? Kwark? Children? I'll give you a hint, the fact that it's any of them is why people are calling you weird. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17388 Posts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-says-murder-rate-plummeted-lowest-level-since-1900-under-trump-administration How about this: #1. we have an aging population. #2. Testosterone levels in American men have declined over the last 4 decades and become pathologically low. Source The results were highly significant (p − value < 0.001). In addition, to account for the imperfect polynomial fit we fit a linear model (testosterone level = 1 + age + year) separately for the ages range 13–22,23–35 and 36–80 where the behavior of the testosterone level as a function of age is approximately linear, with similarly significant results (p − value < 0.001). #1 is a bigger factor than #2. The murder rate has been slowly falling in the USA since about 1980. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187592/death-rate-from-homicide-in-the-us-since-1950/ So I need to correct Fox News on this one. We owe it all to Ronald Reagan. He invented the "Make America Great Again" red hat and his great "Law And Order Agenda" started reducing the murder rate. Ok seriously, any "law and order" agenda must occur across several levels of government. Reagan's and Trump's regimes might deserve somewhere between 1% and 10% of the credit for the lower murder rate. Of course, the 1990 spike in murders must then also be laid at the feet of Republican George HW Bush as well. So, ya. In conclusion, I'd say Bill Clinton deserves somewhat more credit than Reagan and Trump for the lower murder rates we've seen the past 20 years or so. Now, if we're going to talk about Reagan and 1980 what we really need is a 1980 era Karolyn Leavitt "Talking Barbie". The kind with that string in the back. You pull the string and "Talking Barbie" says a random catch phrase. "You're a Liberal Hack" , "That's Fake News" , "I don't answer questions from CNN" , "Donald Trump Saved America" | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2829 Posts
To be fair, Americans (and British to a large extent) are very prudish in general and are extremely uncomfortable with nakedness so they make it weird. We don't have those taboos here; I mean, nudist beaches are a genuine thing in Spain and it's not a sex thing. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17388 Posts
On February 06 2026 16:41 EnDeR_ wrote: My parents showered with me when I was little. Up until the age of 7 or 8 I went swimming in the public beach by my home town butt naked, like all the other kids (both boys AND girls). There was nothing sexual about it. To be fair, Americans (and British to a large extent) are very prudish in general and are extremely uncomfortable with nakedness so they make it weird. We don't have those taboos here; I mean, nudist beaches are a genuine thing in Spain and it's not a sex thing. when i was 6 to 13 (1993 to 2000) i used to go to my uncle's and dad's hockey games. there were naked men every where in the locker room. meh. my best friend and i would be in the locker room before and after the games and it was no issue. everyone changed out in the open. there'd be 10+ naked guys walking around. They played in New York state and Southern Ontario Canada. now, with all these made up sex scandals, that later get dropped due to lack of evidence, hockey locker rooms have closed, individual change spots. its dumb. https://cdn.hockeycanada.ca/hockey-canada/Hockey-Programs/Safety/Downloads/dressing-room-policy-e.pdf total paranoia. keep everyone scared. It is interesting that the hockey locker room culture did not change after the Maple Leaf Gardens real problem where the hockey arena was proved to be a little boy sex farm for 21 years from 1968 to 1989. SOURCE These most recent changes by Hockey Canada restricting locker room behaviours occurred as false accusations were going through legal processes and later dropped due to lack of evidence. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On February 06 2026 16:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote: I notice on Fox News they are yapping about the USA's really low murder rate. Somehow, it has something to do with something Trump did? Ok, guys. LOL. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-says-murder-rate-plummeted-lowest-level-since-1900-under-trump-administration How about this: #1. we have an aging population. #2. Testosterone levels in American men have declined over the last 4 decades and become pathologically low. Source #1 is a bigger factor than #2. The murder rate has been slowly falling in the USA since about 1980. https://www.statista.com/statistics/187592/death-rate-from-homicide-in-the-us-since-1950/ So I need to correct Fox News on this one. We owe it all to Ronald Reagan. He invented the "Make America Great Again" red hat and his great "Law And Order Agenda" started reducing the murder rate. Ok seriously, any "law and order" agenda must occur across several levels of government. Reagan's and Trump's regimes might deserve somewhere between 1% and 10% of the credit for the lower murder rate. Of course, the 1990 spike in murders must then also be laid at the feet of Republican George HW Bush as well. So, ya. In conclusion, I'd say Bill Clinton deserves somewhat more credit than Reagan and Trump for the lower murder rates we've seen the past 20 years or so. Now, if we're going to talk about Reagan and 1980 what we really need is a 1980 era Karolyn Leavitt "Talking Barbie". The kind with that string in the back. You pull the string and "Talking Barbie" says a random catch phrase. "You're a Liberal Hack" , "That's Fake News" , "I don't answer questions from CNN" , "Donald Trump Saved America" There's a really interesting hypothesis about crime rates coming down and the reduction of lead in products like paint and gasoline. Studies all point to crime rates and lead poisoning being linked as we've now had decades of research on the topic going back 50+ years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead–crime_hypothesis yeah its wikipedia but still lol it explains at least a little bit of the downward trend. I'm sure most of us have heard of this before but for anyone who hasn't they may find it interesting. On top of the evidence suggesting it was dangerous being hidden from the public for years but what else is new. | ||
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oBlade
United States5963 Posts
Obviously from say 2010 to 2011 a year over year decrease of like 20% indicates a real local drop as long as stats are measured and collected the same way. Because they're looking at the same thing. But over the last 100 years what has basically happened is the field of medicine has gotten better. So it's not that people murder each other less, it's that we are better at surviving attempted murder. Since in the US murders are gun-centric it's significantly related to treating gunshot wounds specifically. This is consistent with my understanding of a K-shaped society where there are two USes, one which is first world and one where an underclass of criminals on par with the worst of the third world also reap the benefits of the best healthcare in the world and other social nets and criminal justice reform which prolongs their careers. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1124155/ | ||
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Vivax
22251 Posts
On February 06 2026 10:53 Razyda wrote: What exactly are you afraid of happening if naked dude is running around children playground? Manslaughter, probably. Unless he‘s there at night to dry hump the slides or do meth. | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1292 Posts
On February 06 2026 19:41 oBlade wrote: For murder specifically there's evidence the decades long downtrends have little to do with crime and society hasn't gotten significantly less violent when it comes to murder. Obviously from say 2010 to 2011 a year over year decrease of like 20% indicates a real local drop as long as stats are measured and collected the same way. Because they're looking at the same thing. But over the last 100 years what has basically happened is the field of medicine has gotten better. So it's not that people murder each other less, it's that we are better at surviving attempted murder. Since in the US murders are gun-centric it's significantly related to treating gunshot wounds specifically. This is consistent with my understanding of a K-shaped society where there are two USes, one which is first world and one where an underclass of criminals on par with the worst of the third world also reap the benefits of the best healthcare in the world and other social nets and criminal justice reform which prolongs their careers. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1124155/ Can't be the incredible prevalence of guns, insane gun culture mixed with vigilante justice fetish, two tier justice system, the most incarcerated people per capita and the system that does nothing to rehabilitate them. Nah, it's all on immigrants and black people, that's what oBlade is trying to say here. USA is roughly number 65 by homicide rate, the only European country that stands in a worse place then it is Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate Europe, which has a large immigrant population, but none of the idiotic American policies is nowhere to be found in the top 100. Violent crime rate in USA has been steadily going down forever, and it shows 0 correlation with immigration or anything else, so this imbecilic theory that "murder rate would be higher if only we didn't spend money on patching people up" is just that, imbeciles ravings: https://ourworldindata.org/us-crime-rates A weird little incel brainwashed and radicalized online, what a sad, sad little fascist bootlicker. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7161 Posts
On February 06 2026 16:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: now, with all these made up sex scandals, that later get dropped due to lack of evidence, hockey locker rooms have closed, individual change spots. its dumb. https://cdn.hockeycanada.ca/hockey-canada/Hockey-Programs/Safety/Downloads/dressing-room-policy-e.pdf total paranoia. keep everyone scared. It is interesting that the hockey locker room culture did not change after the Maple Leaf Gardens real problem where the hockey arena was proved to be a little boy sex farm for 21 years from 1968 to 1989. SOURCE These most recent changes by Hockey Canada restricting locker room behaviours occurred as false accusations were going through legal processes and later dropped due to lack of evidence. What is with right wingers and defending the fucked up rape culture of Canadian junior hockey? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17388 Posts
On February 06 2026 22:11 Luolis wrote: What is with right wingers and defending the fucked up rape culture of Canadian junior hockey? trying reading my entire post. LOL. is Barry Scheck a right winger? i defend the falsely accused whoever they may be. https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4413#88249 https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=4676#93506 Let's say some hockey player, somewhere did something wrong. What does that have to do with changing gear in a locker room? All these strict change room rules do is cover the asses of the clowns at the top and add to a culture of paranoid fear. and, Where that takes us is a place where some random father who posts on TL standing naked any where near his daughter is considered questionable and weird. right wing you say? LOL. https://tl.net/forum/general/480705-canadian-politics-mega-thread?page=109#2180 https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5367#107339 so there is my endorsement of Clinton, Chretien and Rae. Hardly, right-wingers. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2330 Posts
On February 06 2026 12:55 Razyda wrote: Yeah mate, you have showers with your daughter but I am the weird one... You are, objectively, the weird one. You're using a line devoid of context from a woman's stolen diary to defame her dad even after she pretty much publicly broke down at the pain that's caused her and said it's utterly untrue. Conservatives have a problem with empathy and they're OK with disgusting bullshit until it personally occurs to them, so let me try doing this in a way you'll understand: On February 06 2026 10:37 Razyda wrote: I... have showers with your daughter... I am sorry... Here's Razyda, plain as day, confessing to showering with little girls. Mods, can we ban him for confessing to pedophilia? | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1292 Posts
Every accusation is a confession. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10866 Posts
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Billyboy
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oBlade
United States5963 Posts
On February 06 2026 21:57 Jankisa wrote: USA is roughly number 65 by homicide rate, the only European country that stands in a worse place then it is Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate Europe, which has a large immigrant population, but none of the idiotic American policies is nowhere to be found in the top 100. Yes countries #1-64's problem is a lack of immigrants and too many protections that equal or exceed the US 2nd amendment. I find the notion that Europe achieved its low homicide rates by taking immigrants in from countries with higher homicide rates to be, to put it nicely, interesting. On February 06 2026 21:57 Jankisa wrote: Violent crime rate in USA has been steadily going down forever, and it shows 0 correlation with immigration or anything else, so this imbecilic theory that "murder rate would be higher if only we didn't spend money on patching people up" is just that, imbeciles ravings: You are staunchly arguing that treating people for gunshots doesn't keep more of them from dying. This isn't serious. I think I have to trust the Harvard Medical School study over you even though I don't think it requires an advanced degree to conclude medicine saves lives. When you say violent crime has 0 correlation with anything else, remember "anything else" includes guns and gun ownership. Decide what you think before contradicting yourself, and then check if that contradicts reality. Violent crime is pretty well known to have statistically significant correlations with poverty/inequality, and location, in the US. Race is also correlated both in terms of victimization and perpetration. The fact that modern medicine is covering up violence by its effect on visible murder rates, which are benchmarks for how we judge our society, could be potential evidence for either or both of anti-gun policies and anti-criminal policies. It could be evidence for 50 things but foremost is to understand problems before purporting to address them. And conversely, pushing the idea that violent crime has been steadily going down forever is not convincing me to adopt your alarmist opposition to the 2nd amendment. Violent crime going only down as guns literally only increase doesn't support what you in the same breath claim to believe. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22164 Posts
On February 07 2026 00:18 Billyboy wrote: I am shocked... who ever could have seen this coming...It is kind of scary that Epstein's pal Bannon is announcing ICE at the polls. No wonder their budge that is 5x bigger than Obama's Ice and doing less deporting is again tripling. It sure looks like Trump is building his own "police" force to make sure he wins. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2330 Posts
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